[Closed] Retireing to the sea side in the UK. Where would you go?

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Why does retiring to the seaside screw life chances for someone else?

[quote=johndoh ]
Why does retiring to the seaside screw life chances for someone else?

I guess you've never been to a pretty little village in cornwall that has no-one under the age of 60 living there and is a ghost town in the winter.

Why does retiring to the seaside screw life chances for someone else?

Selfish consumerism - Prices everyone else out of the market. Fine if you want to be regarded as a selfish twunt by all the locals...

Selfish consumerism - Prices everyone else out of the market

True to a point but how many of these places have jobs and such in the first place that don't revolve around seasonal work? You say pricing out of the market, only if you head with the crowds or spend over the odds. You also assume people want to move back to wherever they grew up or stay where they're worked all their lives. I sure as hell wouldn't.

I also think there's a big difference between retiring somewhere to live and buying a 90% vacant holiday home.

Finally, last I checked we weren't feudal serfs and were free to live where we want.

[i]Selfish consumerism - Prices everyone else out of the market. [/i]

Well the folk selling the houses don't have to sell to the highest bidder. They could get all altruistic and sell to other locals. So who is pricing who out of the market?

Finally, last I checked we weren't feudal serfs and were free to live where we want.

That is a benefit that comes with economic strength - something not available to those on the receiving end, who are denied the very choice you celebrate 🙁

Selfish consumerism - Prices everyone else out of the market.

Well the folk selling the houses don't have to sell to the highest bidder. They could get all altruistic and sell to other locals. So who is pricing whop out of the market?

Well, that depends on who owns - not young adults from our rural areas, that's for sure

[i]I also think there's a big difference between retiring somewhere to live and buying a 90% vacant holiday home.[/i]

Absolutely....its wot people do, retire to the seaside, but only for a few years in the overall scheme of things. It brings money to the local economy which should be embraced, not condoned.

Exactly - we aren't talking about people having second or third homes by the sea, we are talking about people who want to retire somewhere and live there. They aren't necessarily just people with shit-loads of money to spend.

Exactly - we aren't talking about people having second or third homes by the sea, we are talking about people who want to retire somewhere and live there. They aren't necessarily just people with shit-loads of money to spend.

If you're planning on spending more than £45-50k*, then you are spending shitloads of money. If you can't see that then you are deluding yourself about rural poverty

*= 3x local salary multiple

North Wales for the win. Coastal, very near the mountains, good links to civilisation. Plus for 350K you could buy a nice house with a few acres of land if you look hard enough!

If you're planning on spending more than £45-50k*, then you are spending shitloads of money. If you can't see that then you are deluding yourself about rural poverty

In reality there are very few places left in the UK where you can buy a £50k home.

There is always the Isle of Sheppey ....

And it's quicker to get to Manchester from lots of parts of Spain than it is from Devon!

johndoh - Member
If you're planning on spending more than £45-50k*, then you are spending shitloads of money. If you can't see that then you are deluding yourself about rural poverty

That isn't a problem that only effects places by the sea, it is a nationwide problem so to blame someone that wants to retire somewhere for the problems is a bit silly really.
In reality there are very few places left in the UK where you can buy a £50k home.

People I know making good money down here in sw Hampshire / east Dorset are those trades servicing old peoples homes.

Don't mine the mine, mine the miner type of mentality.

Formby? You serious.

Full of nevue rich scousers

Dumfries or Ayrshire if it needs to be practical.

Or Argyll if a bit more remote

[i]Well the folk selling the houses don't have to sell to the highest bidder. They could get all altruistic and sell to other locals. So who is pricing who out of the market? [/i]

Or if we actually something more like a free-market, folk would be building additional houses where folk wanted/needed to live - and as long as you build enough the price would come down to 'affordable' levels.

just come back from a few days in Cromer, and i must say, it was really nice, lots of friendly folk too, even the homeless old uns gave us a wave!! Not too busy either, and plenty of options further up the coast too.

Why would I want to get to Manchester?

Yes, try finding anything decent around Chippenham less than £150-£200k; my ex-council house, a three-bed semi, would be approx £180k.
Get out of town, and there's little difference between prices in North Wiltshire and South Devon.
Thanks for the lecture, rkk01, those of us who live in rural areas are perfectly aware of it, thank you.

The [i]lecture[/i] is borne out of bitter experience...

You might live in / near rural Chippenham, I live in semi-rural S Wales - both have easy access to areas with well paying jobs & that makes a huge difference. Our income is enough for a 4-bed detached and an interest in this unashamedly "middle class" mtb forum 🙄

HOWEVER, neither the parents or the inlaws can understand why we don't move back to coastal Cornwall, the childhood and spiritual home of Mr & Mrs rkk01. We both have good jobs, but our earning potential / mortgage capacity is irrelevant in Cornwall because the property prices are way higher than we could afford if we lived AND EARNED locally.

So what's your point exactly? That it's okay for you to sod off to Wales and take a job that some local could be having but not okay to simply move somewhere to do nothing more than exist and spend money locally?

And it looks like, as someone who was on the 'receiving end', you did something about it and moved where there was a job. What the hell is the point in sticking about somewhere if there are no jobs to stick around for anyway? Your argument really isn't making any sense here.

I quite honestly couldn't care less about your argument anyway, I have a £120k (on a bloody good day if I'm lucky) house and could never afford to be able to move to the south east for example. I live in ammonia city but do you hear me complaining about the folk who want to come here and spend their money all over the place? Of course not, because they bring money in as opposed to the companies that simply syphon it out. You want rural poverty? Try a little closer to (adopted) home or anywhere else that was left behind when the industries shut down, not being able to afford to live in Cornwall wasn't a poverty line last I checked.

(Though I do sympathise with the fact you can't afford to live where you grew up this affects more than just yourself, try blaming Phil and Kirsty and all the other prats who think Newquay and wherever else would make for a charming second home by the sea rather than those who actually want to settle permanently).

Dumfries or Ayrshire if it needs to be practical.

Girvan

West Coast would be my choice a hell of a lot less likely to find your home eroding into the sea

When the polar ice caps melt I'll stick to the Pennines ta! Winter might be cold but at least the shops and restaurants stay open.

Sennen Cove.

[i]Dumfries or Ayrshire if it needs to be practical.

Or Argyll if a bit more remote[/i]

That's in Scotland! 😯

Redcar.

(you could buy Redcar for that money)

Just down the coast there's Saltburn, one of the first working class 'resort' holiday destinations.

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All that, and the NYM's are on your doorstep.

Top tip for searching on rightmove, don't set it for £300-£350k, you can get 8 bedroom houses for <£200k, there's not a lot over that price until you hit footballer territory!

Bantham, S Devon for me. Nice gentle surf beach, bit of estuary for kayaking, not far to Dartmoor for riding.

Not a huge amount of houses come up there though, and there may be a bit of competition!

rkk01 - Member
How about retiring where YOU GREW UP (or lived your adult life)

Instead of royally screwing the life chances of folks who come from certain parts of the UK

A good point, but I grew up in a not very nice part of North London and have no intention of going back. The house I currently live in was bought with the intention of selling when retirement happens and buying in a much cheaper part of the country.

Exactly - if you're reliant on driving a car, you're potentially screwed if your eyesight worsens, your balance goes, your neck is hurt...

To be fair, this argument more or less works for anywhere outside a city or large town now, public transport is dead. Something else we should be fixing.

[quote=brassneck ]Bantham, S Devon for me. Nice gentle surf beach, bit of estuary for kayaking, not far to Dartmoor for riding.
Not a huge amount of houses come up there though, and there may be a bit of competition!

you could have bought the whole village last year for £11m...

Bantham....you could have bought the whole village for £11m

or an arc'teryx jacket for a similar sum 😉

Already done it! 'Retired' to Poole 12 years ago when i was 33.
Still working obviously, but being here definetely has it's perks.
Loads of beaches obviously; busy (Bournemouth/Sandbanks), quiet (head west a bit).
Enough work to keep the money coming in...and close enough to commute if you really must.
New Forest and Purbecks for riding and walking and family related stuff.
Huge sports/lifestyle scenes (roadcycling/MTBing/running/watersports)
No rush to move anywhere else anytime soon.

you could have bought the whole village last year for £11m...

NOW you tell me...

Are you local jam bo? I heard it went to a private buyer, and many people seemed relieved the NT hadn't got it which I couldn't quite get.. but that said a friend of mines parents live on NT land and are forever being told what they can and cant do to their garden. Which I have some sympathy for, greater good and all that, but I can see how it might get on your t*t*.

or an arc'teryx jacket for a similar sum

morning. sorry didn't chat, was in need of coffee, was out bivi-ing with Si and Sharki on the quantocks last night.

Are you local jam bo?

I live on the soggier side of the moors...