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[Closed] Retaining European citizenship petition

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Petition link

https://www.eucitizen2017.org

Sign and share if you care.


 
Posted : 25/09/2017 3:29 pm
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Copy cat.


 
Posted : 25/09/2017 3:31 pm
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I dont see what the EU26 necessarily get out of such an arrangement.

All wonderfully woolly about retaining rights and responsibilities, but while the rights are personal, the responsibilities are the States. If there's no reciprocity why would any state agree to grant rights to a foreigner outside their borders?


 
Posted : 25/09/2017 3:37 pm
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That's a good question, Stoner, but remember that the idea was first mooted by someone in Brussels (I can't remember where he was from).

Maybe it's just a fee, in which case I am happy to pay.


 
Posted : 25/09/2017 3:39 pm
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TaVM.

Done.


 
Posted : 25/09/2017 3:47 pm
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Almost sounds like some people aren't completely behind the whole Brexit thing.


 
Posted : 25/09/2017 3:55 pm
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I dont see what the EU26 necessarily get out of such an arrangement.

Skilled labour.

It's certainly within their rights to offer it. And it will help them grow their economy just as immigration helped us grow ours.


 
Posted : 25/09/2017 3:59 pm
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Wasn't this origanly Guy Verhofstadt's idea?


 
Posted : 25/09/2017 3:59 pm
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I think many people had it simultaneously.


 
Posted : 25/09/2017 4:00 pm
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not necessarily just skilled labour, the principal will have to extend to all citizens regardless of how economical productive they might be.

Yes it's reasonably attractive to enable middle class white collar brits to move around the continent as before but if the right were to be universal, what's to stop, say, a poorer eastern European nation withdrawing from the obligations of the EU but retain free movement for its citizens under the citizenship proposal?

An appropriate fee reflecting the cost of those rights ought to be quite substantial, which then means the citizenship is only for those middle-class holiday makers or white collared jet-setting paperclip salesmen that can afford the subscription to the high life.

If I want to retain the right to free movement around the EU, I ought really to move towards becoming an EU national, say French. Or waiting for the Scots to re-join and wing it on Granddad.


 
Posted : 25/09/2017 4:08 pm