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Nickf; untwist yer knickers, son! 😆
Don't play the hard man
Where'd I do that then?
Far from being a fear-no-one, street-fighting-man, I'd lay money that you're a Fine Arts graduate who lives in Primrose Hill.
Lovely! I wish!
Come and meet me for a pint sometime; get to know the man behind the legend...
Mr Nutt. As discussed at the time of your problems, bailiffs are not a nice breed but are a neccessary evil.
I won't take your comments above personally 🙂
I wasn't going to comment more than I have but while I'm here I might as well.
Quite a lot of stuff on this thread is pretty accurate, some of it plain wrong, the odd bit quite dangerous and the little person with the big gob is (as usual) talking utter tripe but he's a colourful character so hey ho, why not let him carry on. He will anyway in a sad kind of way.
monksie I'll make an exception in your case mate, its the stocks for a week in swindon town center, I'm a fair and courteous ruler you'll agree 😀
the little person with the big gob is (as usual) talking utter tripe
I assume you're talking about me... 😀
Are you a bailiff then Monksie?
Thing is, most of the neanderthals myself and others have had to deal with have had little or no understanding of the Law; using threats and intimidation to get their own way. That's wrong. It's ok if yer someone like me, who knows where they stand legally, but what if it's an old or frail person who is intimidated and frightened? This happens far too often. Too many bailiffs break the Law.
I'll come quietly if you promise to not chuck stuff at me 🙂
"Are you a bailiff then Monksie?"
How very dare you! :-). No. I'm not a fit and proper person (mental health issues - oh the irony) so I can't be and wouldn't want to be a bailiff. I get paid to try and manage them.
As I said before; bailiffs sometimes need to be used, but too often, it seems that they use illegal tactics to seize property. I must say, far from being the 'hard man', when I was faced with two big ugly blokes insisting they were going to seize my property, I felt pretty bloody scared. Which is why I grabbed a lump of wood. Yes, they had a court order, but it wasn't in my name, and therefore legally null and void. They weren't prepared to listen. What is someone supposed to do in that situation? Let them take their goods? How would they get them back?
I think bailiffs should have to have some form of legal qualification. The current law doesn't require this. This is a flaw. If they have had legal training, then they will be better at their jobs.
Anyway, as I said; the Op can happily simply ignore any future letters from the debt collectors, as they don't apply to them. They aren't legally required to respond in any way. It's for the DCs/bailiffs to ensure they have the Law on their side, which in this case, they don't.
"Op can happily simply ignore any future letters from the debt collectors...."
and in the fullness of time (possibly)
"had hold of a lump of wood in case the bastards tried stepping over my threshold."
It's just my opinion like but that doesn't seem like a very "happy" occurence.
Problem was, Monksie, that the bailiffs at my door were acting illegally, so that wasn't 'normal' circumstances. What they should have done, is stated who they were, and their intention, showed their authorisation, then listened to me as I explained the people they were looking for no longer lived at that address. Then left it at that. Instead, they attempted to illegally enter my home.
I doubt the OP will face the same scenario. I will say that this sort of thing isn't the 'norm' with bailiffs, but it does happen far too much.
Se, in the OP's case, he's not supposed to know the content of the letters, as he's not sposed to open them, as they're not addressed to him. Therefore he is protected by Law from any action by the DCs.
put them in the bin.....forget....end of.
Se, in the OP's case, he's not supposed to know the content of the letters, as he's not sposed to open them, as they're not addressed to him. Therefore he is protected by Law from any action by the DCs.
Of course what you are saying is true, but back in the real world why not nip it in the bud and avoid the lump of wood scenario?
I think bailiffs should have to have some form of legal qualification. The current law doesn't require this. This is a flaw. If they have had legal training, then they will be better at their jobs.
I think this is a good idea, it might clean the business up too, in much the same way as the regulation of doormen, made that industry a whole load cleaner
We are in the same position as the op
Se, in the OP's case, he's not supposed to know the content of the letters, as he's not sposed to open them, as they're not addressed to him. Therefore he is protected by Law from any action by the DCs.
This is what we have been doing for the last two years! Most of the bailiffs that have been round, have been fine, we provide i.d. to prove who we are, pass on all the info we have on who they are trying to contact and that's that.
One group did clamp our car once, which got a bit sticky/nasty until we could prove who owned the car!
Last thing I would do is try piss these guys off with lumps of wood?