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[Closed] Removing a security tag (thanks Evans)

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I've just discovered that Evans have sent me home with a large security tag still attached through the chin strap of my new helmet.

One side of the tag is a rectangular piece of plastic with rounded edges and through the strap is a metallic cone.

Is it easy and safe to remove with a screw driver ? Can the cone just be levered off ? Any other techniques ?


 
Posted : 20/08/2010 2:59 pm
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Hammer - bigger the better - let off some steam 😉


 
Posted : 20/08/2010 3:00 pm
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Errm, take it back and get them to remove it..


 
Posted : 20/08/2010 3:00 pm
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Errm, take it back and get them to remove it..

pfft - thinking [u]inside[/u] the box... 😉


 
Posted : 20/08/2010 3:02 pm
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If the end is a plastic cone.

Burn the end off and use a paper-lcip to undo the clasp inside.


 
Posted : 20/08/2010 3:02 pm
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Magnet. If you have one. It should allow it to be released.


 
Posted : 20/08/2010 3:02 pm
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Magnets?


 
Posted : 20/08/2010 3:02 pm
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I knew a girl who was a dab hand at removing them with a pair of dressmaking scissors. She never went shopping without them.


 
Posted : 20/08/2010 3:03 pm
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Big hammer FTW

the worst that could happen is a bit of dye is release - not an issue on a black helmet strap


 
Posted : 20/08/2010 3:05 pm
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Errm, take it back and get them to remove it..

40 mile drive !


 
Posted : 20/08/2010 3:05 pm
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I had this on a bottle of whisky the other day (no I didn't steal it). After much umming and ahhing I found a pair of cable cutters on the metal pin did the job disappointingly easily.

(Obviously I then ****ted it with a hammer to get a look at the insides)


 
Posted : 20/08/2010 3:06 pm
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Cut either side of the strap and then stitch it back together? 🙂


 
Posted : 20/08/2010 3:08 pm
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Do they have dye in them ? ! (Light grey strap)

No magnet.

(perhaps I will do the drive...'only' 15 miles if I do it from work)


 
Posted : 20/08/2010 3:09 pm
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Wear it with pride and with the tag on. Makes you look like you robbed it like init and all gangsta bro


 
Posted : 20/08/2010 3:10 pm
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Happened years ago to my mother with M&S, they sent 2 people out with the portable device to remove it.


 
Posted : 20/08/2010 3:11 pm
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Build an electromagnet. Easy :). And it'll satisfy your geeky side.


 
Posted : 20/08/2010 3:12 pm
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I've emailed Evans - I expect they are rushing 2 people over here right now.


 
Posted : 20/08/2010 3:14 pm
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Yeah probably in their special car marked 'Police' 😛


 
Posted : 20/08/2010 3:15 pm
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Vice & hacksaw? smash with big hammer once removed to kill it.


 
Posted : 20/08/2010 3:16 pm
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Do they have dye in them ? !

If it had dye in it it would usually be visible and have a warning about not breaking the tag on it.

Sounds like it's just a plastic one with ball bearings inside which grip the pin...hence the magnets would have released the ball bearings and the pin would slide out.


 
Posted : 20/08/2010 3:16 pm
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Get the bosch out and mutilate it untill it gives in


 
Posted : 20/08/2010 3:17 pm
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freeze it for a while then hit it with a big **** off hammer.


 
Posted : 20/08/2010 3:17 pm
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i did that with a pair of gloves here in lausanne, i just pulled the cone out with a screwdriver (wasnt wanting to drive back to the shop!)


 
Posted : 20/08/2010 3:17 pm
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I had this on a T shirt bought at the airport... in Jo'burg, so I couldn't take it back.

I chewed it off with a pair of wire cutters.


 
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I've emailed Evans - I expect they are rushing 2 people over here right now.

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Vice & hacksaw?

New buddy-cop ITV show?


 
Posted : 20/08/2010 3:20 pm
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burn the end off the plastic bit, thats whet the theiving scum do in my store,


 
Posted : 20/08/2010 3:20 pm
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which evans? hope not the one i work in!


 
Posted : 20/08/2010 3:20 pm
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magnet and if its a dye tag then freeze it and then smash the dye off and then snip through the metal spike , 20 years experince in this and it works !


 
Posted : 20/08/2010 3:24 pm
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As senior officer for a multi agency business crime reduction team in a large city I'd just like to say a big thank you for not knowing any techniques that I didn't already know.

Keep going though, I normally pay to go on courses to check this sort of intel'.

mattythemod- I'm watching you son. 😉


 
Posted : 20/08/2010 3:34 pm
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Practical Matt - How are you going to stop people going into shops with the right 'tools'?

I imagine it's tricky enough to spot people with foil lined bags?


 
Posted : 20/08/2010 3:38 pm
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mattythemod- I'm watching you son.

Ha Ha , i see your good at comin to the wrong conclusions as to what side i am on 8)


 
Posted : 20/08/2010 3:42 pm
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which evans? hope not the one i work in!

It was the Trafford / Chill Factor store (Monday)

I stress that I do have a receipt for the helmet - all paid for !

Get the bosch out and mutilate it untill it gives in

You were the last person to use the Bosch - the chances of me not damaging the helmet with the drill are small to none.

I'm pretty much resigned to going back to store.


 
Posted : 20/08/2010 3:54 pm
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Back when I worked in a bike shop, we had new versions of the security tags, and someone threw out the device for taking the old ones off. Whenever anyone bought something with the old tags on, I'd take it out to the workshop, pop in the the vice and apply pressure to the sides liberally. They usually just popped open with enough crushing force from either side.

[url= http://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/yhst-13207175732759_1850_588868 ]It was one like this[/url], if it helps.


 
Posted : 20/08/2010 3:56 pm
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burning the end, snipping the end, crush in vice etc all work, and nope not my store! phew!


 
Posted : 20/08/2010 3:59 pm
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Depends on the tag. Some of them are released from their pin by the insertion of a curved needle into a hole. They tend to be the longer thin tags that I think TK Maxx use. Thick copper wire does it. Bend it till it fits.


 
Posted : 20/08/2010 4:03 pm
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Take it back... and demand a voucher for "ruining your weekends riding". I'd expect at least £20 for that. In the meantime wear your old helmet, borrow one or go without?


 
Posted : 20/08/2010 4:19 pm
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@TSY going equiped for stealing is a charge, likewise you can restrict known offenders from being in posession of certain items.
Stop and search is a handy tool too. If somone's acting suspicious you wait, get the evidence as they do it then get a conviction afterwards.


 
Posted : 20/08/2010 4:45 pm
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Nobody has realised he was allowed to walk out of the store with a security tagged helmet, past the scanner at the door, and it didnt sound or flash lights, so it must have been switched off then 😆

So thats Evans Manchester Chile Factore, with a not working security system.

Red faces and smacked arses tomorrow when management read Singletrack.


 
Posted : 20/08/2010 4:51 pm
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just use side cutters on the pin joining the two halves of the tag together.

Or, failing that, take it, with your receipt to your local super market and ask if they use the same system?


 
Posted : 20/08/2010 4:52 pm
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Same thing happened to me, a hacksaw through the bubble/buldge that the pin goes into and it dropped off.


 
Posted : 20/08/2010 5:02 pm
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:ninja: Ultrasound bath with a flat screwdriver (can use a remote ultrasound too)

2-3 drops Nitric acid on the metal pin, come back 45mins later and it'll pull apart easy

so I've been told...


 
Posted : 20/08/2010 5:45 pm
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Mate of mine turned up at my house one day with a new shirt for going out in the evening, turned out to still have the tag on. I took a Dremel to the pin, did the job (with a bit of card between shirt and blade to protect the shirt).


 
Posted : 20/08/2010 6:05 pm
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magnet first, and if tht doesnt work, put it a vice and crush it in a controlled manner, rather than smashing it


 
Posted : 20/08/2010 6:11 pm
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i'd ask them to pay my travel expenses.....
it's an inconvenience.


 
Posted : 20/08/2010 6:15 pm