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Boxcar and F104. I take it these are somewhere exotic? Would love a gander / sit in a starfighter!


 
Posted : 30/06/2018 2:36 pm
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Very noteworthy aircraft types, unless I've got them wrong, a Flying Boxcar troop transport and a Starfighter F104, but don't know which variant. The double numbering on the fin is odd, but I promised myself I wouldn't google them until after posting my first impression.


 
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Boxcar and F104. I take it these are somewhere exotic? Would love a gander / sit in a starfighter!

Correct, and correct!

They're in Jiji, Taiwan. There's an assortment of old military kit displayed about a km down the road from the historic train station. Narrow gauge steam AND old tanks and planes. Nerdgasm.


 
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Posted : 30/06/2018 4:45 pm
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Don't know the name but some sort of X plane, small midget fighter designed to be carried on a b29 or similar and dropped for local defence.


 
Posted : 30/06/2018 5:09 pm
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haha, the XF85 Goblin

idiotic attempt to carry a recoverable fighter in the belly of a Convair B36.


 
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Posted : 01/07/2018 8:50 pm
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Leading edge of the starboard wing...


 
Posted : 01/07/2018 8:55 pm
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Iskra?


 
Posted : 01/07/2018 9:39 pm
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Delfin, and F-104?


 
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Posted : 07/07/2018 3:44 am
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The V1 with a cockpit was actually a prototype suicide weapon I think. Only the Germans decided they weren’t that crazy after all.


 
Posted : 07/07/2018 7:57 am
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Delfin, of course, I weanted to say it was the Galeb, but the T tail was stumping me.


 
Posted : 07/07/2018 8:43 am
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Ah yes, also Japanese copies of the 163 and 262.


 
Posted : 07/07/2018 8:52 am
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Kyushu Shindin

Ohka piloted fyling bomb based on the doodlebug

Experimental Junkers Jet thing

Giant JUnkers JU290

Vaught V173

two very dull Me262 and Me163 copies that the Japanese made can't remember their names

SUD EWR Vtol German thing...

And yet; I have no friends....why is that?


 
Posted : 07/07/2018 9:00 am
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I think we should suggest that it can't be experimental or a one off. It seems total unfair, unless you're a nerd about airplanes (ahem)


 
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I think we should suggest that it can’t be experimental or a one off. It seems total unfair, unless you’re a nerd about airplanes (ahem)

The only function this thread has is to flush out nerds.


 
Posted : 07/07/2018 10:09 am
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I am feeling comprehensively out-nerded on this thread!

On facetube I follow RAFBABW who recently have been doing a "what cockpit" game, so how about this?


 
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Posted : 08/07/2018 5:35 am
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Bottom one is a Brewster Buffalo I think.

Middle one an early Mk Mustang (Alison engined)?

Top one a Vaught of some description given the cranked wings?


 
Posted : 08/07/2018 6:59 am
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Super Corsair, still one flying I think

A36 Apache.

Republic P43 can't remember it's name  Mostly shipped out to the Chinese and Aussies.

That's it, I'm nerded out.


 
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Super Corsair video


 
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and


 
Posted : 09/07/2018 11:35 am
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North American Rockwell OV-10 Bronco
North American Rockwell OV-10 Bronco


 
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Is the French one a Dewoitine something or other?


 
Posted : 09/07/2018 9:00 pm
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Is it a North American Rockwell OV-10 Bronco?


 
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Ooh, Goodyear Corsair I think.

A36 Apache

Seversky P43 Lancer

And a Dewoitine 520.  No idea what the second French plane is if it isn't a variant of the 520 - I note that the canopy and fin have a different shape.


 
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Ah , didn’t notice the difference. Morane-Saulnier?


 
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Delfin, and F-104?

Yes, both up at Bruntingthorpe, and I spent a happy hour and a half or so just wandering around all the planes there, and chatting to one of the co-owners of the Delfin, who let me sit in the cockpit. Although they won’t let anyone fly from the runway, she’s airworthy and I was shown the startup routine, all I had to do was flick a switch on the left side of the cockpit and she would have started up! The F104 has plastic protectors along the wings to prevent people slicing themselves open, it is literally a knife edge!


 
Posted : 10/07/2018 12:09 am
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I think cletus' is the kawasaki Ki61 Tony?


 
Posted : 10/07/2018 12:26 am
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Spot on nickc - I was hopoing the in-line engine would trick people into thinking it was German or Italian.

Will have to find something more obscure!


 
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Gah. Typed reply, Chrome disposed of it.

Yes, Dewoitine D520, second one was the less successful Arsenal VG-33.

And...


 
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That Kawasaki had a liquid cooled Daimler Benz engine manufactured under license by Aichi (I think), hence the resemblance to German and Italian aircraft of the time (the Italian license-built Daimler Benz unit was built by Alfa Romeo!).

Oh, that's a Polikarpov I-16 in Spanish Republican colours.


 
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It is indeed.

How about these:

http://www.tangmere-museum.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/Vildebeest-1.jp g" alt="" width="450" height="337" />


 
Posted : 10/07/2018 1:49 pm
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Swordfish?

Edit- no. Engine cowling is wrong as is torpedo angle.

Hmmm...


 
Posted : 10/07/2018 1:54 pm
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Easy one, but not particularly nice timing.

Which film (that I watched last night!) was this doomed aircraft in?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-45076060


 
Posted : 05/08/2018 5:54 pm
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Valkyrie

but this is better


 
Posted : 05/08/2018 6:00 pm
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Same one 😉


 
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same mark the crash plane was JU-52 HB-HOT and swiss

the eagles dare aircraft IIRC was an austrian plane

seems it was HB-HOT


 
Posted : 05/08/2018 6:08 pm
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Mrmonkfinger, my first instinct says Wildebeest


 
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I just like this picture.


 
Posted : 13/08/2018 3:45 pm
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riksbar, spot on


 
Posted : 13/08/2018 4:26 pm
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Not a Warbird, but my new favourite plane of the week.

Armstrong Whitworth AW660 Argosy C1 RAF XP445


 
Posted : 14/08/2018 12:37 pm
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Argosy? Used to have loads at Benson so we were used to seeing them in the 60s/70's flying around Berkshire/Oxfordshire.


 
Posted : 14/08/2018 1:13 pm
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Ha, and there was me thinking that was a...


 
Posted : 14/08/2018 3:14 pm
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That there "Argosy" looks like a slow, creaking and leaky old tub...


 
Posted : 14/08/2018 4:21 pm
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What are the rules? I have some images of a wreck, be good trivia if some keen eyes could ID it. For fun of course.


 
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What are the rules?

1. Someone yells stop, goes limp, taps out, the fight is over.

2. Only two guys to a fight.


 
Posted : 15/08/2018 3:26 am
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3. First time here you HAVE TO FIGHT.


 
Posted : 15/08/2018 5:53 am
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4. Anoraks must be worn.


 
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Blackburn Beverly, by the way.


 
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Six engines... B47?


 
Posted : 07/09/2018 12:34 am
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XB-70 Valkyrie?


 
Posted : 07/09/2018 12:55 am
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B-36


 
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No, scratch that. The schematic on the aft wall clearly shows an XB-70.


 
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Image result for airacuda


 
Posted : 07/09/2018 9:23 am
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Bell AiraCuda above...


 
Posted : 07/09/2018 9:45 am
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VL Pyörremyrsky: Suomen Wild Wind.


 
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Saab 21A

I only know that as it was my one and only attempt at a Vacuformed model kit...It didn't go well, and I retreated back to the safety of injection molded!


 
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Daimler Benz engine from a ME109, going with Kawasaki Ki-61


 
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No, scratch that. The schematic on the aft wall clearly shows an XB-70.

As do the NAA logos on the control yokes.


 
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Ah, old Saabs...

Guess


 
Posted : 07/09/2018 10:36 am
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haha, I love old Saabs, whenever I see old J29s I think  "The Little Jet that Can"   🙂


 
Posted : 07/09/2018 10:39 am
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Sadly, they only have modern ones (well, kinda) on sticks at the Linköping exits on the E4. Still nice seeing them as you drive that way.


 
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Lavochkin La3?


 
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The Finnish plane with the Daimler Benz engine is a VL Pyörremyrsky


 
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^ that Saab is ace!


 
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Saw a couple of Spitfires doing a display at Goodwood about 7pm tonight for the Revival. One was MH434, no doubt.

The other I think might have been pl983 but I have no idea if it was even at Goodwood today. Anyone know if it was flying at Goodwood at 7pm or can definitively  say this crystal clear image is pl983:

4 Blade prop, if that helps.


 
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(warning nerd content)

The first Spits with 4 bladed props were the first batch of V with the Merlin 47 with were designated as VI, and the PR (your picture looks like PR blue) could be an early PR V (although most were tropicalised IIRC). It's more likely to be a later Merlin 61 engined PR IX.

I have a small power point, if you'd like to make yourself comfortable...wait come back...


 
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The first Spits with 4 bladed props were the first batch of V with the Merlin 47 with were designated as VI, and the PR (your picture looks like PR blue) could be an early PR V (although most were tropicalised IIRC). It’s more likely to be a later Merlin 61 engined PR IX.

I have a small power point, if you’d like to make yourself comfortable…wait come back…

:D, I'd be more interested in that than I'd care to admit, I can never be bothered to read up on this stuff, spoon feeding would be welcome.

PL983 was flying this morning at 8:30 so I think my guess yesterday was correct. Ray Hanna's MH434, EP120 & Hurricane P3717 were up at the same time. Also an Anatov AN2 was up and about later on.


 
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I saw a large number of (probably) civilian piston engine aircraft fly over Chichester today in formation.

Anyone identify the type (I assume all the same) and tell me what they were doing? Are there really 'owners clubs' that fly aircraft around in large numbers?


 
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Scottish Aviation Bulldogs. Used to see them every day when at school in the 70's

And yes there is a club

http://www.beaglepupandbulldogclub.co.uk


 
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Yup. Used to fly them from Abingdon a lot. Took over from the Chipmonk I think.


 
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"Scottish Aviation Bulldogs. Used to see them every day when at school in the 70’s
And yes there is a club
http://www.beaglepupandbulldogclub.co.u k"

Thanks, that's nailed it. There were aircraft that looked like Chipmonks to me but also the Bulldogs amongst them which totally threw me, I'd never heard of Bulldogs.

So group of ex-RAF trainers, probably commemorating BoB day, which was yesterday IIRC.

Can't find anything online about it.


 
Posted : 16/09/2018 8:51 am
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Some interesting warbird news, two blokes are going to fly a Mk IX Spitfire around the world for the first time:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/09/15/around-world-silver-spitfire-meet-magnificent-men-flying-classic/

Photo credit John Dibbs.


 
Posted : 16/09/2018 9:51 pm
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Easy one...

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Not seen this before. 6.50 for the money shot...


 
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