[Closed] Rape

The only cause of rape is rapists, and that's an encouraging bevy of nos at the start of the thread.

The rest of you, if you'd like to read some actual evidence instead of spewing paranoid hypothetical scenarios, [url= http://www.cps.gov.uk/publications/research/perverting_course_of_justice_march_2013.pdf ]here's a CPS report[/url] (Which, warning, can make for some distressing reading if you get to the case studies). They put the amount of false accusations at just over 0.6%, and in that 0.6%, most cases are complicated by age, pre-existing abusive situations, and mental health issues.

Good bit of context I learned recently: false reports of car theft are around 2%

No one else has mentioned false accusations, though, I'm not sure why you're bringing that up - the discussion is about consent and whether or not the victim of a rape is always 100% blameless.

(And talking about two people having sex while drunk is hardly a "paranoid hypothetical scenario", rather something that happens all over the UK every weekend.)

I think most arguments or disagreements on this topic boil down to semantics of the words used - blame, contributed, 'asking for it', responsible, partly responsible, whatever.

I have first hand experience of investigating cases where things the victim did created an opportunity for the rapist to rape them, and had they taken a different course of action that opportunity would not have arisen. I.E. their actions increased the risk. That the rapist chose to take that opportunity is, of course, the rapists's fault, and no right minded person would ever think otherwise. However, whether through clumsiness or otherwise, people use different words when they talk about the victim's actions or behaviour being a factor in what subsequently happens, and a poor choice of words can misrepresent what they're trying to say, which is very rarely 'they deserved it'.

Mr Woppit - Member
Also, interestingly from the point of view of the effect self-blame has on it's victim, Chrissie always used to refer to her all-male band as girls, as in (before starting a song) "You ready, girls?". Odd.

Burning, looting, raping and a shooting....

" Better be a prostitute than a butcher, hope the Muslims win... "

My point.

I fouled up the punctuation in that, sorry:

"Better be a prostitute than a butcher","hope the Muslims win"