[Closed] Raheem Sterling

His agent is definitely the latter. Liverpool should sell him.

The later

Plenty of young players have had one decent season or two and not become a stellar superstars

Remember when no one was sure who was best lee sharpe or Ryan giggs

Also left his first club for money [ I should say allegedly there as in no way that I have personal knowledge form the person who negotiated the deal that brought him and his family to liverpool and honestly I do not know if his family got jobs as part of it all it when he was underage....it is mere idle speculation on my part and all made up in my opinon etc.]

Somewhere in the middle for me Harry.

Has had moments of brilliance, but very very few and far between. Spent the last half of the season without a clue as to what to do with the ball. But of course that could be argued it's the others fault for not giving him options.

Overall though, I wouldn't be sad to see him leave for £25m.

He clearly believes everything his agent says to him. This seems to be along the lines of 'you're better than Messi or Ronaldo, and Real and Barca will be along to offer you a squillion pounds a week shortly'

Unfortunately for him, John Barnes was far more accurate on Five Live this morning....

[i]"He's a 20-year-old boy who has achieved nothing, he has not won anything. Does anyone believe that if he goes to Manchester City he will be the first name on the team sheet or are they just signing him because they need English players?"[/i]

Like a lot of players, he's nowhere near as good as he thinks he is

Lots of players move clubs for a variety of reasons, and always have. Some clubs fans seem to act like cult members believing the smoke blown up their arses about how special they are.

He seems to be believeing his own hype, he's a poor mans Oxlade-Chamberlain

The latter.

And he runs like a girl.

Interesting quote from Jamie Carragher, too. "If it's about trophies, Liverpool had a chance for a trophy this year - in the FA Cup semi-final at Wembley against Aston Villa. Where was Sterling?"

Decent player but needs to get his priorities straight. There was a documentary about the Man U 'kids' of the 90s last night. Shows how it should/could be done

Cracking hair-do, mind

It was easy for Man U to keep hold of their "kids" because they were winning trophies and paying the highest wages. Those players would not have been so loyal if that as not the case.

And of course what about all the players they bought in that period, they clearly never showed the same loyalty to their past clubs. John Barnes was happy enough to desert Watford to go and join the most successful club of that era.

he's a good player and has the potential to become even better but he's a fool for listening to his own hype and his agent
John Barnes is absolutely spot on. if he wants to go then let him go but for a premium sum so he can go and be an overpaid benchwarmer at City/Arsenal etc while he convinces himself the move was for football reasons and not money

There is definitely some

greedy little git with an overinflated sense of self worth

Let's not pretend there is any loyalty in football either, that has long gone.

Brendan Rodgers referring to him as 'boy' wasn't too clever

He's flattering himself because he's been a slightly above average player in a decidedly mediocre squad, who couldn't even get near the top four in what has been a really poor premiership season.

I'd have a lot more respect for him if he came out and said "listen... I'm going to win **** all with this bunch of donkey's, so I'm off to somewhere where even if I only come on for 20 minutes, in 2 games throughout the season, I still get to say I won something. And anyway... Have you seen the new Ferrari? I really fancy one of those!"

Next seasons Jack Rodwell/Scott Sinclair

His problem is that he's not as good as he thinks he is. If he was as good a player as he believes then he wouldnt need holidays to Jamaica half way through the season.

As a Liverpool fan I say sell him.

Not sure why footballers are expected to be 'loyal' to their clubs. It's a job. If I was offered double the salary to do the same job elsewhere, I know what I'd do.

[quote=whyrd said]Not sure why footballers are expected to be 'loyal' to their clubs. It's a job. If I was offered double the salary to do the same job elsewhere, I know what I'd do.

Fair enough if you admit that, but he's done the "it's not the money" BS spiel already.

As always, Liverpool fans are more hard done to in whatever respect it is.

Gerrard retiring is going to hang over the club for decades. Man U = Giggs/Scholes, Chelski = Lampard & Drogba, Spurs = King. All players just as important but Liverpool will bleat for years about it.

So Stirling wants to better himself. Just like Lovren ditched Southampton to move to Liverpool, why shouldn't stirling do the same? I bet Lovren was sold on liverpools history, their chance to win things etc etc. Liverpool also took Lambert so tbh Liverpool don't give two hoots about other teams so its hard to feel sorry for them.

Then we get onto Rogers the cretin who like to sleep with his female physio and ditched his wife. The same guy who said of Spurs when AVB was in charge that ANY TEAM SPENDING £100M SHOULD BE CHALLENGING FOR THE LEAGUE. Well guess what, despite spending nearer £150m Rogers isn't challenging for the league. He said that at a time to put an opposition manager under increased pressure. Well Brendan, fall on your sword please.

Why would Stirling put his fledgling career in the hands of Rogers? He has shown, by his own words that he aint that good. Liverpool wont get another £150m spending spree so chances are next season is gonna be another wash out. The names bandied around are

Man U
Arsenal
Chelski
Man City
Bayern
Real Madrid
Barca

Think of the managers and players he could be linking up with. The titles he could win. The development to his game. OK Man City is the last place I would recommend but under Pep at Bayern he would have Robben and Ribery to learn under. A coach who could turn him into anything he wants.

Yep, this is about money, but truth be told he will get his money regardless. He is now making a career choice and Liverpool need to realise that he isn't one of them, he's a footballer who could become top class.

Plenty of young players have had one decent season or two and not become a stellar superstars

I heard a rumour once that Blackburn Rovers had to choose between Garry Fitcroft or Zinedine Zidane 😯

All footballers are greedy yes they are.

Sell them for profit like you sell merchandise.

It's not like there aren't plenty of other flaky, fast but lightweight wingers that can't finish around. Arsenal have got a team full of them already.

The names bandied around are

Man U
Arsenal
Chelski
Man City
Bayern
Real Madrid
Barca

Barring a massive injury crisis, he's nowhere near good enough to get a sniff of a regular starting place at any of those clubs. Real, Barca, Bayern and Chelski? He'd be lucky to make the bench

TheLittlestHobo - Member

As always, Liverpool fans are more hard done to in whatever respect it is.

Gerrard retiring is going to hang over the club for decades. Man U = Giggs/Scholes, Chelski = Lampard & Drogba, Spurs = King. All players just as important but Liverpool will bleat for years about it.

So Stirling wants to better himself. Just like Lovren ditched Southampton to move to Liverpool, why shouldn't stirling do the same? I bet Lovren was sold on liverpools history, their chance to win things etc etc. Liverpool also took Lambert so tbh Liverpool don't give two hoots about other teams so its hard to feel sorry for them.

Then we get onto Rogers the cretin who like to sleep with his female physio and ditched his wife. The same guy who said of Spurs when AVB was in charge that ANY TEAM SPENDING £100M SHOULD BE CHALLENGING FOR THE LEAGUE. Well guess what, despite spending nearer £150m Rogers isn't challenging for the league. He said that at a time to put an opposition manager under increased pressure. Well Brendan, fall on your sword please.

Why would Stirling put his fledgling career in the hands of Rogers? He has shown, by his own words that he aint that good. Liverpool wont get another £150m spending spree so chances are next season is gonna be another wash out. The names bandied around are

Man U
Arsenal
Chelski
Man City
Bayern
Real Madrid
Barca

Think of the managers and players he could be linking up with. The titles he could win. The development to his game. OK Man City is the last place I would recommend but under Pep at Bayern he would have Robben and Ribery to learn under. A coach who could turn him into anything he wants.

Yep, this is about money, but truth be told he will get his money regardless. He is now making a career choice and Liverpool need to realise that he isn't one of them, he's a footballer who could become top class.

Jeez that's a rant for such a simple question..

Like the Murphys... you're not bitter.

[i]Not sure why footballers are expected to be 'loyal' to their clubs. It's a job. If I was offered double the salary to do the same job elsewhere, I know what I'd do.[/i]

Indeed....£26m contract or £45m contract??(5years)

Hmmm....let me think about that!

Then we get onto Rogers the cretin who like to sleep with his female physio and ditched his wife.

Get it right if you're going to have a rant. Charlotte Hinds is the former travel co-ordinator of LFC, not physio.

He aint flaky and this season has been hard for him.

But last season he had suarez with him. Think what you like about suarez but he was world class. I saw him move stirling about with little hand signals and words of advice to the point where stirling was giving movement on the pitch way in advance of his years.

Maybe, just maybe stirling realises that he needs to work with top strikers who understand the benefits of movement to develop his game. It must have come as a shock to spend 12mths with Ballotelli & Lambert.

Ok, travel co ordinator. Thanks for the correction.

He is good enough to get near all them teams mentioned. I don't support Liverpool but the lad is waiting to get to the next level in his development. He cant do that alongside Lamber & Ballotelli

[url= http://www.liverpoolfc.com/team/first-team/player/raheem-sterling ](Raheem) Sterling[/url]

[url= http://www.destinationstirling.com/ ]Stirling[/url]

It can't be that hard can it?

Anyway, as a Liverpool fan, if he wants out cash in whilst his stock is high, sad to see him go but John Barnes (who was well on his way to becoming the finished article when he moved) summed it up perfectly.

He is good enough to get near all them teams mentioned.

You are his agent and I claim my Stoke City/Sunderland/West Brom Stirling replica shirt (because thats where he'll be in 3 seasons, having been warming the bench somewhere highly paid in between) 😉

We will have to wait and see binners.

I have to say that in my experience, young quick players tend to burst onto the scene, play well for a couple of years and then once they pick up muscle problems, are never the same again. To think of a few:

Ruel Fox
Aaron Lennon
Theo Walcott

even Michael Owen to a lesser extent

Therefore, he should take the money and run (carefully in case he pulls a muscle!)

He's at a massive club playing regular football at the age of 20. Why not just stay there, keep playing and getting paid incredible money then if it doesn't work out in two three year i.e not winning trophies, move on.

He couldn't hit a barn door with a shovel! Its all well and good being able to leg it the length off the pitch, running like Phoebe out of Friends. But the trick is to do something with it once you get there. Other than look like a rabbit in the headlights, sky it into Row Z, or fall over

So for that reason.. I'm out. I suspect thats an opinion shared by managers throughout Europe

Nowhere near as good as he thinks he is

[i]I suspect thats an opinion shared by managers throughout Europe[/i]

It can't be, he's probably already had a couple of offers in excess of £150k a week for 5 years. He might be dim, but he's not going to jump before he's got offers in place.

[i]He's at a massive club playing regular football at the age of 20. Why not just stay there, keep playing and getting paid incredible money then if it doesn't work out in two three year i.e not winning trophies, move on.[/i]

That's a common sense view, but that has all gone now with the obscene amounts of money available to the best players. And....to be fair to him, he's not from Liverpool and doesn't feel the loyalty that someone like Stevie G did.

Whilst I'm far from impressed, he's taking advantage of the market and looking after no. 1.

If he's had offers of 150 grand a week, other than in his agents fevered imagination, then the world really has gone mad! Its another Andy Carroll! A £35 million striker, apparently.

In reality... he hasn't.

Rodgers is presently a lot nearer the mark on 35

It can't be, he's probably already had a couple of offers in excess of £150k a week for 5 years. He might be dim, but he's not going to jump before he's got offers in place.

Or, he might think that LFC button up the back and is trying to get a £150k/wk contract out of them.

Joe Hart's new City deal earn hime £110,000 a week but it can reach £150,000 a week with various bonuses.

Sterling is not in the top 10 players in the premiership to think he is so good the eltie teams in Europe want him is fanciful.
Not even good enough to be a bench warmer there

You do realise at Barca the players in his position are Messi or Neymar......not even his mum would pick him first.

Bale or Ronaldo at Real etc

Stirling is not all about being able to leg it the length of the pitch. He is all about cutting in from wide and dragging defenders into difficult positions. Suarez used him to open up gaps for himself and taught the lad how to move properly on a pitch.

Then suarez left, rogers sacrificed young sterling to try and carry the striker position and left the lads development to sink for 12mths. Now, other managers of note have noticed how much he is being wasted, have seen that unless Liverpool go out and buy another couple of forwards to complement him (Lambert & Ballotelli gone plus sturridge has mega family history of injury issues) he is looking at another wasted 12mths.

So that's will be 2years he will have 'given' to Liverpool in the hope that they do something about it.

You do realise at Barca the players in his position are Messi or Neymar......not even his mum would pick him first.

You forgot Suarez.

who plays as the striker
I am classing Sterling as an inside forward/ winger rather than a striker

Joe Hart's new City deal earn hime £110,000 a week but it can reach £150,000 a week with various bonuses.

But Joe Hart is genuinely proven world class international. He's first on the team list week in, week out.

Then theres the matter of looking where the teams mentioned in connection with him would be looking to strengthen their squads. And he just isn't the type of player that they're looking for. They've got plenty of far, far higher quality versions themselves already

Stirling is not all about being able to leg it the length of the pitch. He is all about [s]cutting in from wide and dragging defenders into difficult positions[/s] able to leg it the length of the pitch, cutting in, then skying it into Row Z and falling over

You guys are concentrating on the money. If he gets £100k per week or £150k per week, the lad is well off regardless. Tax probably makes a bigger difference to his wages than the headline figures.

Liverpool are trying to use all tactics, including ex players to pressure sterling into signing. Hats off to the lad for withstanding it.