That footage of the feisty little puffin on the Farne Islands, was superb.
They are surprisingly tough, how they manage to get to and from North Africa with those little wings amazes me!
As for what each and every one of us can do, well I haven’t got the time to mention the thousands of things, but maybe joining a local ‘green charity’ eg The woodland trust, your local wildlife trust etc. planting a small apple tree, marching to save some greenbelt land, not mowing your garden, walking, cycling or taking public transport for a journey less than a mile. Looking at what one buys more carefully, buying fruit and veg in season
A great list for making you feel better about yourself. From a climate change perspective it wont move the dial at all.
Watched it on fast forward in UHD on iplayer. Stunning cinema photography, but well you have seen one animal attack another and you have seen them all.
Also got the impression that this was the BBC making sure they got it all suite of David Attenborough catalogue before he snuffs it so they can sell it around the world for millions
They are surprisingly tough, how they manage to get to and from North Africa with those little wings amazes me!
You wait until Suella Braverman finds out.
There are plenty of people using that as an excuse to do what they want, when they want. Are you one of them?
No. If I thought it would make a difference the I would change my behaviour. I’ve done the most environmental thing a person can do and not had kids so I will leave no legacy pollution. The biggest problem I have with the whole debate is we are making the arrogant presumption that the planet should stay as it is so it remains comparable with human life. Whilst I understand the appeal why should it?
Is the climate changing, of course, are humans making that happen quicker? Of course? Does humanity want to make the changes to slow down the rate of change so we can, as a species, last longer, no it doesn’t.
Is the climate changing, of course, are humans making that happen quicker? Of course? Does humanity want to make the changes to slow down the rate of change so we can, as a species, last longer, no it doesn’t.
Climate change is not the only reason to stop polluting. We breathe in the air that we pollute - it gives us respiratory diseases. We can't swim in the waterways that we pollute. We can't grow crops on land that we pollute.
Very simply we shit in our own nests.
If I thought it would make a difference the I would change my behaviour. I’ve done the most environmental thing a person can do and not had kids so I will leave no legacy pollution.
Great news - I'm sure many will be pleased to hear this. It's a shame you don't care about other people.
The biggest problem I have with the whole debate is we are making the arrogant presumption that the planet should stay as it is so it remains comparable with human life. Whilst I understand the appeal why should it?
That's where you've got the wrong end of the stick. The planet shouldn't stay the same to keep it compatible with human life. The planet is always changing but we, humans, are accelerating that change and making changes on an industrial scale. Oil naturally seeps out of rocks into the sea in some places and that's ok because oil is a natural substance. But we chuck it into the sea on an industrial scale and that's bad for the ecosystem.
By making these changes faster than the environment can cope and adapt we cause irreverisble damage. Which kicks the environment straight away and will come back to kick us in the future.
It's not all about climate change; it's about pollution, marine waste, overfishing, industrial farming, deforestation etc etc...does that not matter to you?
Another great episode tonight
The thermal imaging of the barn owl was fab
Not seen tonight’s yet but the 1st ep in UHD was superb
Sadly I am kind of in the “all is lost” camp. Don’t get me wrong - I do what I can (suspect my carbon footprint is a lot lower than most Westerners - don’t drive much, never had a long-haul flight, re-use/recycle as much as possible, low food miles, eco-garden etc etc) but I think it’s probably just pissing in the wind vs the rest of the world that doesn’t GAS. I think we’re (as in the human race) going to have to tech our way out of this, or things will just get really, really bad. Hopefully be long gone by that point.Jesus!! Thankfully plenty of people do give af. We can do things that will have a massive impact to improve OUR environment. All is not lost – that’s utterly ridiculous.
Crikey, there's some dour pillocks on this thread tonight.
Those saying the planet will be fine, yes it's a lump of rock, it will be fine until the sun gobbles it up in 5bn years.
The life on it, probably not so. The horrible thing about this current mass extinction event is that we will likely survive it and everything else will die. Living off Huel, or some other synthetic food, breathing through respirators and listening to legends about sparrows and spiders.
In this country there is a lot that can be done to save our biodiversity. This is a separate argument to climate change. In 70 years we've lost 97% species rich grasslands, 98% lowland raised mires, etc. We have the space to restore these, but it means making collective choices.
We tend to get split down to binary choices, cheap food or expensive food, but the reality is that there is nuance. For instance, you could de-sheep the Lake District and lose 1% of calories from the national intake. That's emminently doable. It won't happen because we won't make that choice, because the lobbyists insist on everything everywhere, which means that nature loses each time.
The thing about restoring nature, is that it tends to help the climate. And lots of impacts add up. But don't talk to me about carbon credits, that there is a snake oil industry.
Sadly I am kind of in the “all is lost” camp.
You might find the series frustrating then, it claims the opposite - all is not lost.
The charities say there is just enough of the UK’s natural world still left to save, and if everyone - the public, communities, businesses and our leaders all urgently work together to aid its recovery, nature can begin to thrive again within the next few decades.
David Attenborough made that point in this evening's episode.
It would appear that educating the public is a vital step, which is why the series is so important beyond its entertainment value.
A new YouGov poll commissioned for the Save Our Wild Isles campaign revealed over three-quarters, (76%), of people in the UK are worried about the state of nature. The UK is in the bottom 10% of countries globally for protecting nature [2], yet only 5% believe the UK to be one of the worst countries in the world at preserving nature, with 55% mistakenly believing that the UK is on a par with the rest of the world or even doing better.
So people understand the importance but few are aware of the lack of political will. Which is presumably why the episode which won't be broadcast is alledgedly controversial.
https://www.wwf.org.uk/press-release/save-our-wild-isles-campaign-launched
not at all. Really enjoying the cinematography. Of course they’re not going to tell everyone we’re all ****ed on prime time BBC1, don’t be ridiculous 😂You might find the series frustrating then, it claims the opposite – all is not lost.
What I quoted wasn't from prime time BBC1, it was a press release from the WWF.
The link was at the bottom of my post. David Attenborough reiterated the claim that natural woodland could be regenerated over a few decades in tonight's episode.
I have never heard David Attenborough being accused of not telling it as it is btw.
Woodland! What is better than a bluebell wood? Brilliant.
Surely, as mountain bikers (even climate deniers types) we would want more woodlands!?
The charities say there is just enough of the UK’s natural world still left to save,
of course they do. It’s bad for business for them to say anything else. The wwf have spent many a year trying to defend how little of the donations received is actually sent on there cause
I'm loving the filming of it all but the Disney music is really annoying. It should be Sir David's commentary and the sounds of the landscape that are filming. We miss a big part of it all otherwise. Whether it's quiet, or noisy drama.
of course they do. It’s bad for business for them to say anything else. The wwf have spent many a year trying to defend how little of the donations received is actually sent on there cause
Yeah, you bet. And don't get me started on that Attenborough geezer. Or climate change. Or covid.
@tewit - I think you're right, the music is a bit much at times and is annoyingly distracting
@tewit – I think you’re right, the music is a bit much at times and is annoyingly distracting
Another +1 here. I'm not sure why you need 'appropriate' music in the background, especially when it obviously intrudes on the visuals.
But then, I also described the programme as a lovely looking screen saver. It was on in our house, nobody was glued to the screen, every so often someone would say, 'Ooh, that's lovely'. After a while it was turned off to watch something else and none of us are rushing to watch it again, despite (or maybe because of) spending plenty of time in woods, hills, coasts...
Mrs B has been banging on about a robin that follows her round when she's out doing gardening so particularly enjoyed the bit when DA explained that to the robin she's "a pig on two legs"!
Have two threads turned into one here? Thought this one was about the show and there's another one for the ususal moaners/arguers?
The show is hopefully going to get through to some people that we need to do something to help nature.
Too many people are getting confused with saving the planet as a whole and this as an individual is not possible. What is possible for each and every one of us is to save fauna, flora, woodland, peatbogs, waterways etc with just a little change to our lifestyles.
For example creating a pond in your garden, planting a small bush, tree or hedge, growing some fruit/veg/salad etc will make a huge change to our Wild Isles.
This is from a different Attenborough narrated series but I love this footage which highlights octopuses huge and amazing intelligence
Latest attenboro doc, this one about funky insects
