Over 50% of voters in Scotland voted against the SNP!

Did they? Didn't realise that. Interesting, maybe another yes / no vote wouldn't go all SNP's way...

Another plus point, With stability over the Tory government, people are more confident with spending money (or at least my clients are). So that means I can keep 120 employees, from factory cleaners to sales guys fully employed. So that's the ordinary guy in the street befitting from a Tory government. I think that's something that'll be played out thousands of times all over the country.

Tinybits.

Thats the best positive thing I have heard anyone say. 🙂

Good on yer

I got three times more votes than Al Murray 🙂

Al fires himself from the Labour Party

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-32692668

ninfan - Member
Positive spin:

Over 50% of voters in Scotland voted against the SNP!

That's wrong. SNP share was 50.1%

people are more confident with spending money

So people only really like spending their money when there's a Tory government ?

What do people do when there is a Labour government - save all their money waiting for the Tories to turn up ?

I guess that in 2010 after 13 years of Labour governments people went on a spending spree, Tesco sales must have gone through the roof - what with people stocking up with things that they had resisted buying for the previous 13 years.

Don't more people actually vote for independence than voted for the SNP?

I'm not sure that turnout is a valid point THM, unless you can explain why it might be.

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ninfan - Member
Positive spin:
Over 50% of voters in Scotland voted against the SNP!

Nope, 49.97%

What do people do when there is a Labour government - save all their money waiting for the Tories to turn up?

No, they don't have any money.

As a poor person, having a job and more money in my pocket (less tax) under the Tories puts me in a much better position to contribute to society. 🙂

Ernie, Tiny bits is talking about clients, I guess that means industry.

So if he is confident in the future of his business and employing all those people then I think thats a good thing

That's wrong. SNP share was 50.1%

Votes for SNP :1,454236

Total cast: 2,910465

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election/2015/results/scotland

So Z-11's positive spin is that the SNP, unlike the Tories who came no nowhere close, managed to get 49.97% of their electorate to vote for them.

A fair point.

sbob - Member

No, they don't have any money.

I see. I hadn't realised that people don't have any money when there is a Labour government.

So tinybits clients have suddenly got some money, that's why they are spending it. Even though we've already had 5 years of Tory government. He didn't explain that.

Thank you sbob for your interesting insight. 🙂

Indeed Ernie

Less that half of Scotland voted for the SNP

While [i]more[/i] than half of the UK voted for right wing, pro austerity, parties (Conservative/UKIP/DUP)

[quote=ninfan ]While more than half of the UK voted for right wing, pro austerity, parties (Conservative/UKIP/DUP/Labour)

Fixed

I see. I hadn't realised that people don't have any money when there is a Labour government.

Based purely on personal experience and the length of queue at the local job centre.

Nope, 49.97%

I stand corrected then, 50.1% was the last figure I'd seen quoted.

Fair point aracer 😀

Ernie, no they are [i]continuing[/i] to spend money. We sell direct to end users and manufacture high end wooden home extensions. All we have heard for the last 6 months is "I won't place the order until I know who's in government and I know what's likely to happen to my finances" the true answer, as with most labour supporters as well, is nothing will change (ok it changed with the last labour > Tory change but I won't blame the world wide recession purely on labour!) However the [b]confidence[/b] is what makes people spend. Change is bad for confidence so with more of the same, they spend.
Might not be lefty enough for you but it's a fact in my industry.

All we have heard for the last 6 months is "I won't place the order until I know who's in government and I know what's likely to happen to my finances"

Well obviously I have no idea what conversations you have with people but I do know that national statistics do not back up your claim.

If what you are saying were true across the country then for the last six months the UK would have experienced a drop in mortgage approvals as people waited to see who would form the next government. I can see no proof of that :

[url= http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-32114763 ]Mortgage approvals at six-month high, says Bank of England[/url]

[i]The number of mortgages being granted across the UK hit a six-month high in February, Bank of England data shows.[/i]

And general consumer spending appeared to be unaffected by the spectra of a general election :

[url= http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/04/13/britain-retail-brc-idUSS8N0W400X20150413 ]UK retail spending rises at fastest rate in almost a year[/url]

[i]The British Retail Consortium said the value of total retail sales in March was 4.7 percent up on a year earlier, the biggest year-on-year rise since April 2014, and much stronger than the 1.7 percent growth recorded in February.[/i]

Furthermore a General Election doesn't settle what government policy will be for the next 5 years. After the 2010 General Election the government announced the greatest austerity programme for decades and their determination to completely irradiate the deficit within 5 years. Otherwise we would end up like Greece, apparently.

A couple of years into their administration the Tories decided to abandon their economic plan and opt instead for Labour's more cautious plan of halving the deficit in 5 years.

Who knows what the Tory economic strategy will be in a couple of years time. Before the last recession the Tories made a cast-iron guarantee to match exactly Labour's spending plans, when everything went tits up the Tories denounced Labour's spending plans.

You need to be some kind of genius to figure out what the Tories economic policies will be a couple of years ahead, they don't even know themselves.

You're so hell bent on proving the Tories are evil that a thing that doesn't support that simply gets thrown out doesn't it? Even if it's one person soaking against the anti Tory doom predictions that fill social media.

Well obviously I have no idea what conversations you have with people

You're so hell bent on proving the Tories are evil that a thing that doesn't support that simply gets thrown out doesn't it?

What got thrown out ?

I said [i]"Well obviously I have no idea what conversations you have with people"[/i] you even copied and pasted it yourself. I haven't thrown out anything.

However you sound a little biased so if you don't mind rather than rely on what you claim people have been telling you for the last 6 months I would rather rely on what I consider to be more reliable statistical evidence.

Btw you sound a little angry - it's only politics and sometimes people won't always agree with you.

Fiesty today Ernie, you OK hun? Xx

Why did I bother posting.....

Never mind, off to Germany in the morning to buy some more machinery to help capitalise on the rush of orders that simply aren't there. Sod it, I'll punt £500k based on nothing more than my own, completely deluded and clearly wrong opinion of my customers spending habits. I'll leave politics threads alone, I don't have the energy to back up what I'm trying to get across.
New topic for things to do in Hannover when you're off to bankrupt a business...

....to help capitalise on the rush of orders that simply aren't there.

Goodness me you still sound angry.

No one has expressed any opinion on whether or not you've had a "rush of orders".

I have expressed the opinion that I would rather rely on stats for the whole country that just your own personal anecdotal evidence. And not least because you sound a little biased.

I'm glad that you have had a "rush of orders", it doesn't however mean that people have been waiting for the last 6 months before now "rushing" to apply for mortgages, or that the UK is now experiencing a surge in retail because people have been holding back for the last 6 months waiting for the general election result.

Grant Shapps has been sacked from the cabinet. Small mercies....

I wouldn't read too much into this but an interesting and certainly untypical analysis :

[url= http://www.businessinsider.com.au/uk-general-election-vote-statistics-how-the-left-gained-2015-5 ]You'll be surprised to learn that the general election was a huge win for the British left[/url]

[i]the final numbers actually show huge statistical gains for the left, and a swing away from the Conservatives.[/i]