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5 live on just now and Blofeld cricket guy is on where do you learn to speak like that, then there was Brian Sewell and now the William Hanson chap on Steve Wright
Do the USA, Aussies or any other English speaking countries have posh accents too


 
Posted : 06/09/2017 11:31 pm
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Definitely not Canada. In Québec, there are clear class distinctions made when one is speaking French, but when it comes to English and the rest of Canada, not really at all.


 
Posted : 06/09/2017 11:33 pm
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In the case of Blofeld, Norfolk.


 
Posted : 06/09/2017 11:36 pm
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It's partly generational. It's not just the accent but the words used, lack of slang, etc

I heard an old interview of Arnold Palmer on the radio earlier. He sounded 'posher' (or perhaps just different) to modern Americans. And he wasn't from an 'elite' background


 
Posted : 06/09/2017 11:38 pm
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Don't forget Blowers' time at Eton which would have accentuated whatever accent he had on arrival plus the opportunity to pick up various verbal flourishes.
Any way, I like him - on radio; no idea what he's like as a person.
Here's hoping for 5 compelling days at Lords so we can get maximum enjoyment from him.


 
Posted : 07/09/2017 12:00 am
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Where did you get that accent?
Eton, old sausage
Well if I were you, I'd stop eating old sausage


 
Posted : 07/09/2017 12:39 am
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Most languages do not have a posh accent, normally defined by a preferential regional accent (ie Shanghai in China).


 
Posted : 07/09/2017 12:39 am
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We had a dinner party the other evening when a woman said she had a 'posh Australian accent'. Oh, how we laughed!


 
Posted : 07/09/2017 1:54 pm
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I think the Brit 'Posh' accent is actually a regional accent from the 'Home Counties' partly because a lot of posh people live there and partly because when people want to talk posh they copy them.

If we've got a non-regional accent it's the 'Army Accent'.

There's a Posh Aussie accent, or at least people who live in the Rocks in Sydney talk funny anyway, it's a butchered thing, half Posh Brit half Aussie.

The Yanks have regional accents of course, but when they want to sound posh they tend try do do anyway with it, it's sort of North East Coast without the chewy New Yorker bits, Washington DC maybe? They all use it in 'House of Cards'.


 
Posted : 07/09/2017 2:37 pm
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I'm well up for a purge on anyone with a westend/newton mearns accent.


 
Posted : 07/09/2017 2:41 pm
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I think the Brit 'Posh' accent is actually a regional accent from the 'Home Counties' partly because a lot of posh people live there and partly because when people want to talk posh they copy them.

Part of it is affectation. Brian Sewell went to my school & I can safely say almost nobody there spoke with that accent.


 
Posted : 07/09/2017 2:43 pm
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Upper Received Pronunciation

pahr shahr

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Posted : 07/09/2017 2:44 pm
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its not really a posh accent, it's just RP, which although seemingly the same over generations has changed just as much as bog standard commoners speak n that.

it's only been around since the 1870s and only really formally since the 1920's. the whole purpose is to have a standard spoken English where regional accents or phrases are removed.


 
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I think the Brit 'Posh' accent is actually a regional accent from the 'Home Counties' partly because a lot of posh people live there and partly because when people want to talk posh they copy them.

Apparently I'm posh and I went to a comp. in Essex. I say that, I did decide to lose my [i]Sarf[/i]end accent as a kid because – well – it sounded bloody horrible.


 
Posted : 07/09/2017 2:46 pm
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If we've got a non-regional accent it's the 'Army Accent'.

Estuary English is probably bigger than a region now

Theres a sort of 'University Accent' too - probably the same sort of thing as an Army one - moving from home young into an environment where everyone has a different accent eveyrones accents tend to soften and merge a bit

I'm well up for a purge on anyone with a westend/newton mearns accent.

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Posted : 07/09/2017 2:50 pm
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Come the glorious revolution there will be a simple test...

say 'bath'

If an 'r' even makes a hint of an appearance in there then you're up against the wall


 
Posted : 07/09/2017 2:51 pm
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If an 'r' even makes a hint of an appearance in there then you're up against the wall

well thats me ****ed, still I'd rather face a firing squad than sound like some northern git or a **** from TOWIE 😀


 
Posted : 07/09/2017 2:53 pm
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I'm well up for a purge on anyone with a [s]westend/newton mearns[/s] Nasal Weegie Ned accent.

FTFY. 😆

Edit - that's brilliant Macruiskeen!


 
Posted : 07/09/2017 2:53 pm
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If you hear rich Americans from the 1930's they all sounded like Alistair Cooke - I think accents in the US have changed over time too.


 
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I'm well up for a purge on anyone with a Nasal Weegie Ned accent.

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Posted : 07/09/2017 2:59 pm
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say 'bath'

When she was three, may daughter was in the tub having her nightly wash. She looked up at me and said:

"Daddy, why do you say "baath" and I say "bath"?"

"That's easy," I replied. "It's because you're a Northerner."


 
Posted : 07/09/2017 3:01 pm
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RP is just another regional accent slowly disappearing. Soon we'll be like the Canadians* or Aussies, that have no real varying accent at all

*apart from the French ones obvs...


 
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I'm well up for a purge on anyone with a westend/newton mearns accent

I was brought up in the west end, given it's diverse population I'm not sure what a west end accent sounds like.

No idea what a newton mearns accent sounds like, its a pretty normal suburb, hardly 'posh' unless you're frightfully lower class with a chip on your shoulder 🙂


 
Posted : 07/09/2017 3:08 pm
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When she was three, may daughter was in the tub having her nightly wash

Nightly?! You must be posh.


 
Posted : 07/09/2017 3:08 pm
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Perchy, come on, what is it?


 
Posted : 07/09/2017 3:10 pm
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Whit's whit?


 
Posted : 07/09/2017 3:11 pm
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Gonnay no dae that,jist gonnay no.


 
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Whit's whit?

The failed image up there^


 
Posted : 07/09/2017 3:18 pm
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The BBC have a Pidgin English service, I found out yesterday.

Possibly the best news service I've seen to date.

[url= https://www.bbc.com/pidgin ]https://www.bbc.com/pidgin[/url]

Window poo woman's story;

[i]Woman wey take her hand, pack her poo-poo comot di toilet of man wey she dey friend because ''e no gree flush'' enter trouble, after she go try collect di poo-poo back.

The woman wey dey learn gymnastics, just start to waka with Bristol student, Liam Smith, for di first time, when she take fear troway di poo-poo comot for window. [/i]


 
Posted : 07/09/2017 3:18 pm
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Gonnay no dae that,jist gonnay no

THere's an ice cream parlour in Coatbridge called ...

Coney no dae that.


 
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The failed image up there^

???

Looks alright from my end?

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Posted : 07/09/2017 3:19 pm
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alright but incomprehensible.


 
Posted : 07/09/2017 3:20 pm
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incomprehensible.

Naw, it isnae. 😉


 
Posted : 07/09/2017 3:21 pm
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Must not be making it through the work proxy.


 
Posted : 07/09/2017 3:22 pm
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[i]Naw, it isnae[/i]

It jolly well is, old chap.


 
Posted : 07/09/2017 3:23 pm
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Nightly?! You must be posh.

Only if you get out the bath for a wee


 
Posted : 07/09/2017 3:37 pm
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[i]Only if you get out the bath for a wee [/i]

or, in the case of my daughter when she was very young, and on a regular basis, a poo.

You'd be scooping bubble bathed water over her head to wash her hair and suddenly a brown torpedo would appear in the scoop.


 
Posted : 07/09/2017 3:41 pm
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say 'bath'

If an 'r' even makes a hint of an appearance in there then you're up against the wall

Wrong there mate! Bath has a definite R sound and a F at the end for us Leigh Parkers. 8)


 
Posted : 07/09/2017 3:42 pm
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say 'bath'
If an 'r' even makes a hint of an appearance in there then you're up against the wall

The city of Bath is going to be a ghost town


 
Posted : 07/09/2017 3:50 pm
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Where did you get that accent?
Eton, old sausage
Well if I were you, I'd stop eating old sausage

Aaa, good old Spike. 🙂


 
Posted : 07/09/2017 4:57 pm
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Have you heard Rose Leslie speak???

Sheesh, ah ken far she used tay bide(a puckle o mile doon the road fae mines), she disnae soun like a local quine tay me...

Yah


 
Posted : 07/09/2017 7:45 pm
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Do the USA, Aussies or any other English speaking countries have posh accents too

Posh Boston residents do, and it's rather odd, anyone remember the telly program about celebrity homes where the bloke would say "...and who would live in a house like this?"


 
Posted : 07/09/2017 8:59 pm
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i used to have a proper 'ampshire accent. My wife has made me posher. Which is odd; until she was 4 she had a yorkshire accent; got a tape of it too!


 
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Posh Boston residents do, and it's rather odd, anyone remember the telly program about celebrity homes where the bloke would say "...and who would live in a house like this?"

I don't think Loyd Grossman's accent typically Bostonian though - he moved to the UK when he was pretty young and a lot of the distinctiveness of his accent is really a west london and posh university intonation over his US accent.


 
Posted : 07/09/2017 10:05 pm
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As ever, Bill Bryson's book Mother Tongue is all you need on this matter.

And a copy of Debrett's.


 
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Posted : 08/09/2017 2:21 am
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I was having the old "bath/barth" debate with a friend from London recently. Ended up calling him a twart.


 
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Reflects the long term decline of Great Britian

The beauty of Arlott, Jinner and Blowers vandalised with the dumbed down banter of bumble and tuffers
Adverbs replaced by adjectives as the style guide constant for sports commentary
And John Smith and I replaced by Me and John Smith

Sad and vulgar 😉


 
Posted : 08/09/2017 8:05 am
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In South Africa you get people who speak English and people who speak English as if they were still in the colonies . . .


 
Posted : 08/09/2017 8:13 am
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I subtitle TV programmes for a living and I would say posh people, truly posh people, are among the least intelligible and most problematic to transcribe accurately that I ever come across.

Ever watch Made In Chelsea? Probably not, cos you don't get paid to watch it, like I do.

They've obviously been schooled from birth never to open their mouths fully in case the silver spoon falls out of it.


 
Posted : 08/09/2017 8:24 am
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I'm a huge fan of regional accents me.. 😉

For too long the whole of the UK has been morphing into a bland canvas of "middle engerland" like it's some sort of embarrassment of shame if you fail to clip the tone and internation of your county/regional accent.

There's a rich and diverse cultural beauty listening to regional colloquial dialogue, and you have to travel to listen to it. The sarf is now just a mellow mix of "a bit of lundun, a bit of bumpkin" and a lot of "yah". On occasion you hear a clip of rural in a pub in the hills, but few and far between.

Who do I blame for the blandness ? Probably the rise in kids going to uni, certainly the last 20 years or so where kids from all backgrounds have been able to gain places at top tier uni's... being disparate (cough) to fit in they've clipped and tone dumbed thier once regional pride, for the sake of fitting in Yah.

Is sad.


 
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Go back not that many years and the majority of people rarely moved far from where they grew up so accents could develop and be sustained. As late as the 1980s I could tell which village in the South Lakes someone was from just by their accent.

Modifying your accent to fit in with others? Definitely - I speak completely differently now, mainly because the chances of anyone understanding much of my Cumbrian vernacular is close to zero: "side that scrow up!" as an example.


 
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Who do I blame for the blandness ? Probably the rise in kids going to uni, certainly the last 20 years or so where kids from all backgrounds have been able to gain places at top tier uni's... being disparate (cough) to fit in they've clipped and tone dumbed thier once regional pride, for the sake of fitting in Yah

Unless you're scottish, where the further you get from your local lidl, the more scottish you become

(but there's different posh for scottish too, I officially have a posh Embra accent so *s fae glasgow still reckon am posh when am callin them *s)


 
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I went to uni with a girl who spoke in the plummiest accent imaginable. She also swore like a navvy which was entertaining and weirdly arousing.


 
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(but there's different posh for scottish too, I officially have a posh Embra accent so *s fae glasgow still reckon am posh when am callin them *s)

Who are callin' a *, ya posh *?


 
Posted : 08/09/2017 9:40 am
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For too long the whole of [s]the UK[/s]England has been morphing into a bland canvas of "middle engerland"

FTFY


 
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Unless you're scottish

I officially have a posh Embra accent

To be fair you're not really scottish then 🙂


 
Posted : 08/09/2017 9:46 am