[Closed] "poor us" Top Gear lot

You gave so little of a crap you started a thread about it. 🙂

Not a fan then.?

[quote=singlespeedstu ]You gave so little of a crap you [s]started a thread about[/s] watched it.

I got around 15 minutes into it last night and gave up because it was shit.

Did he actualy watch all of it though.
Or did he just want to flex his Big Shitter Muscle.

Did you sit through the whole thing just to complain? Plenty other channels.

Just talking about it. Clarskon is an arse but the response from the veterans was unwarranted. Having said that, I read a book by an ex para who met up with Argentinian vets in Argentina. They treated him well as a fellow soldier and explain how they'd been abandoned by the government when the military dictatorship fell.

Stupid thing for Clarkson to do given heightened tensions.

Stopped watching years ago, well past it's sell by date imo.
Either that or just too old to understand the reason why so much money is being wasted on dross like that 😐

I thought it was pretty good. It wasn't earth shattering by any means but followed the top gear formula.

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ERM, I pay for it...it caused a bit of a media storm at the time, I thought there might be a bit if intelligent/reasoned comment here...

...but is that the best you haters can do?

Last bit was the most interesting bit. Although it's not sport to see anyone get hurt, there is little bit in me that thought it was interesting to see the tables turn for a change.

And although in this case it's debatable whether they were actually winding anyone up for a change , it does feel like the classroom joker could learn a thing or two from this experience.

Take it I missed part 2 then.

i hate cars and car stuff almost as much as i hate football.

so no, i missed it...... 😀

[quote=Trekster ]Stopped watching years ago, well past it's sell by date imo

[quote=cynic-al ]it caused a bit of a media storm at the time,

Cause and effect, cause and effect.

It was a physical manifestation of people on the internet being offended or the Top gear team are idiots.

Probably a mixture of both.

I got bored and switched to auto gyro and historical government propaganda videos on youtube.

When was part 2 on?

90 minutes ago

Got to see how big their film crew really is. I enjoyed it.

Haters??? lolz dude like whatz your age again 😆

Either that or just too old to understand the reason why so much money is being wasted on dross like that

To old to understand it makes the BBC more money than any other program.

That "wasted" money earns the BBC multiple times what it costs to make.

Doesn't matter if you like it or not, at least you can rest assured that they are arsing about and having fun, so that the BBC can afford to pay to make programs that whiney whingers on the internet might like 🙂

thinking about it, i hate clarkson more than i hate cars and football.

ERM, I pay for it...

I suspect that Top Gear makes the BBC money as so many other channels buy it, so technically [u]WE[/u] only pay in the short term!

I wonder what would have happened if an Argentinian film crew had staged a similar stunt ending up in Portsmouth? I reckon it's a good thing that the vets didn't actually catch up with the crew until the very end of the road.

BTW I was going out with an Argentinian girl in London during the Falklands conflict; she was a lot of fun and against her expectations she was treated with the greatest kindness by everybody here.

2nd part was better than the first, except the apparent outback welding of the mustang steering arm.

the nerve of those Argies eh?
who'd have thought they would get so stropy about a game of footy.

It made me want to go to Patagonia. Stunningly beautiful part of the world (I knew that before the program but it was still good to see).

I watched it, pretty lame by all accounts, great scenery though.

To old to understand it makes the BBC more money than any other program.

It does well and is a good earner for the corporation but top dog is Dr Who

Like a broken record Al... 🙄

2nd part was better than the first, except the apparent outback welding of the mustang steering arm.

Notice how clean his hands were when he did his piece to camera? 🙄

I'd go to Patagonia.
But it's harder there.

but top dog is Dr Who

Is he the new big hitter? Has BigAl be deposed? 😐

Well I only saw the last 30 mins of part 2 so I don't know what sparked off the trouble (don't say the war).

How does a TV programme create so much angst on here? People will be claiming that The Apprentice is about business next!!!

Notice how clean his hands were when he did his piece to camera?

My God man - are you telling me they now edit the video they shoot? FFS, now it's just not believable anymore.....

How does a TV programme create so much angst on here?

Probably because one the presenters would quite happily mow down every cyclist on this site in his car if he thought he would get away with it.

Oh, I see. Must be a really nasty bloke. 😉

thm, have you been away for a few days? Having a rest for Christmas was it?

Muchos enjoyos, I was eating supper and it was a great accompaniment 😆

Do you know what's annoyingly predictable about Top Gear?

The 'Top Gear is crap' thread that [i]always[/i] has to follow every single episode on here.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. I'm not a fan of Songs of Praise. I resolve this issue by not watching it and find that prevents me getting, in any way at all, wound up by it.

these Top Gear specials always make me want to drive for a long time, with my wife as my only passenger, and visit somewhere nice.

i think i hate clarkson even more than i hate micheal macintyre..............and that is like loads and loads

someone always has to mention Songs of Praise....

On cue!!!

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/top-gear/11202818/Top-Gear-Jeremy-Clarksons-worst-gaffes-in-60-seconds.html

A marketing man's dream!

I'm in Argentina with my Argentinean wife, kids and extended Argentine family. No one gives a shit, the one conversation that raised it was about how Top gear used to be pretty good and now it's a it formulaic. All agree it was to provoke and raise ratings. Likewise they are equally scathing of La Kirchner and her deliberate stoking of the Falklands/Malvinas debate to detract from raging inflation and poor governance...

Jeremy Clarkson = pantomime villain.

i.e. there to draw a reaction and not worth spending your time getting angry about.

I reckon it's a good thing that the vets didn't actually catch up with the crew until the very end of the road.

I wonder who told the Argies about their silly number plate gag and told them where to find the TG guys at just the right moment?

The IP address of the online whistle-blower might prove interesting...

Just watched it.

I have never wanted to visit a country as much as I want to visit Argentina right now. It looks simply stunning. Beautiful, in fact.

Oh, but they're still British. Sorry about that chaps. Let's agree to disagree and have a Quilmes to get along, shall we?

i feel bad now.....when i say hate, i mean i a way that i dont like riding in the rain, or eating well done steak, or standing in dog turds.
so more like dislike than hate........ 😳

CFH - go, it and the people are beautiful. Can't understand why such beautiful people resort to so much plastic surgery. Was told a few years ago that it's the plastic surgery capital if the world?

Wine and meat aren't bad either. I think the first real mountains were the Paine group. Stunning.

I enjoyed part 1 and will watch part 2 on iPlayer. It's all getting a bit jaded but worth watching.

As a follow up to CFH's / TMH post above Patagonia has been on my bucket list for the longest time, just need to go at a time of better weather than Part 1, don't mind snow just don't want rain rain rain

Bit of an own goal by the Argies - the programme was fairly mundane apart from the stunning scenery they were driving through being a fantastic advert for Argentina's tourism industry. I'm sure a few people who were thinking it would be a beautiful place to visit might have been put off by the actions of the mob at the end.

I spent quite a lot of time there in 2005/6. Great place and never had any animosity. Quite the contrary - apart from paying golf with a top lawyer who cheated! My folks also went down to Tierro del Fuego not that long ago. I would definitely go back. Southern Chile looked nice too!

Anyone run the Porsche plate through the dvla to see if its actually from a grey 928 ?

Anywhere with folk who'd run those three dickheads out of their country goes straight on my bucket list...couldn't give a shit what the scenery's like. I think they might have been a bit pissed off when they found out that one of them wasn't even a real hamster.

"Anyone run the Porsche plate through the dvla to see if its actually from a grey 928 ?"

Yes it was, and widely reported at the time

i think i hate clarkson even more than i hate micheal macintyre..............and that is like loads and loads

Watched both parts tonight, laughed, smiled and enjoyed it. Exactly as you would expect 3 blokes on holiday to have fun. The ending needed to be shown as was, there appeared to be an organised rent a mob prepared and stirred up to cause trouble. I thought it was well done.

ERM, I pay for it...

I wish I could have a TV channel making programmes just for me, would help reassure me that I was always right.

Wouldn't have thought the locals would get upset by a number plate sporting fkl surely they only recognise Malvinas?

The plate was what the car was first registered with. It changed to a private one at some point for a couple of years then back to its original one. It was advertised for sale with it a couple of months before TG went off to film.

I don't think anyone noticed until photos of them filming started getting posted, someone made the (tenuous) connection and an argentine journo picked up on it started whipping up ill feeling. Proper mob at the end 😯

Interesting to see the size of their on-location crew too - that's a hell of a lot of work to get a show like that done.

Seems there was some very deliberate shit-stirring over something most people would never have noticed.

That pretty much sums it up in my opinion.

Then once its been brought to their attention all the people with nothing better to do with their lives can watch it just so they can be offended and complain 😆

Noticed on several occasions, mainly in part 2, that the plate was missing from the front of the porche.
Not the best special by a long shot but certainly not bad enough to stop me watching in future.

Given the amount the front of the cars were dragged through stuff I'm not surprised the front plate was missing.

I cannot think how such a thing happened to those three [s]jingoistic[/s] purveyors of subtle and respectful humour as they are never rude about other countries or cultures.

How does a TV programme create so much angst on here?
Probably because one the presenters would quite happily mow down every cyclist on this site in his car if he thought he would get away with it.

STW is Top Gear demographic. Any 'angst' is self-loathing at identification with pot-bellied, middle-class, middle-aged schoolboys caught in a never-ending pantomime of one-upmanship and chauvinistic banter. If we thought we could get away with it we'd probably mow ourselves down 😉

jamesy01 - Member
Noticed on several occasions, mainly in part 2, that the plate was missing from the front of the porche.
Not the best special by a long shot but certainly not bad enough to stop me watching in future.

Edit, beaten to it

Just watched it. Not the best of their specials, although Patagonia and Tierra del Fuego did look spectacular.

That mob was pretty scary however. I know Kirchner has been stoking the fires to distract from her disastrous economic policy, but amazed that anything got that bad, and that the police did so little. Does appear that there wasn't any intent to offend, but I guess their reputation precedes them.

I've got it recorded to watch later as I've been working 12hr nights all Christmas.

I was out in Argentina in 2010, working in central Patagonia in one of the largest towns called Neuquen. First time we went out for a meal, we walked into a restaurant recommend to us by the Brazillian company we were working for and the owner promptly asked, "English or American, Rail or Oil?" To the obviously non South Americans amongst us so we replied "English and Rail" good he said, welcome, if you'd said either of the 2nd options he would've shown us the door!!

In another restaurant the waiters were discussing if I was German (Germany had just dumped Argentina out of the World Cup) I said no, English (who are even worse at football) and the laughed, came over, gave me a beer and carried on to serve me.

So in my experience they is very little hatred towards normal English / British people over there, the definitely don't like the Yanks. But the one strange thing is, in Neuquen airport (think a budget version of Blackpool) there are lots of painting my depicting scenes from the war with ships getting blown up, planes shot at and soldiers being taken captive and a book of rememberance where you can enter your thoughts on the war and as expected once prompted there is rather a lot of aggression towards the British army and Britain in general.

You're right though, it's a stunning place and I would love to go back one day, but maybe not in a Porsche

Best post on here so far, above.

When you travel a lot you can't fail to come to the conclusion that despite the obsessions of the media, the vast majority of people all over the world have exactly the same concerns as you do: earning money, living peacefully and securely and raising their kids. Most people are completely clear about politicians' lies and the tactics they use to divert attention away from their own shortcomings.

I watched it, pretty lame by all accounts, great scenery though.

And talking of Dakar, the shots of the crew convoy let slip the presence of what looked like a full on 4x4 Dakar style support truck. Wonder if that had something to do with that "outback welding"......

The top gear Africa special gave a good indication the size of the crew involved when they were queuing up to use Clarkson's toilet.

I've already upset people on the other thread, so I'll just add that I love the assertion that Clarkson wants kill all cyclists.

If you read his articles, in full, and with an open mind (rather than just read internet sound bites taken out of context when he needs to advertise something) he actually talks a lot of sense about appropriate cycling infrastructure.

But as we are now in a black and white internet age, seems a growing number of folk cannot cope with any concept of humour, nuance etc

uhuh.

We already have

appropriate cycling infrastructure

Yes he loves cyclists and caravans and talks sense on both subjects

I do love your point that Clarkson is doing a nuanced argument...now that was funny.

We already have

appropriate cycling infrastructure

it's just that some of the folk we share it with don't respect our right to use it.

We do not have appropriate cycling infrastructure.

Appropriate cycling infrastructure is what they have in the Netherlands and to a certain extent in Belgium.

I watched some of the first part but couldn't be bothered with the second, I just find all three of them too annoying. Shame, I really wanted to enjoy it as I spent some time in Chilean Patagonia in 2008 and was looking forward to seeing it again. I was around Coyhaique and recognised quite a few road sections that they showed in the first part.

Any of you that felt inspired to go and visit I can only say do it, it is the most stunningly beautiful place I've been to.