[Closed] Photography tips- how to get nice bokeh with 50mm prime

You get the best bokeh at f2.8. As for how good it is, that depends on the lens itself e.g. number of blades used to control aperture and their profile etc.

You might want a longer lens as well as you tend to have to get close to babies to fill the frame

Had a Canon 50mm f1.8 mk2 for about 6 years. Not used it in a long time due to hardly touching my SLR stuff for quite a while, but it's a lens I love. Cheap but gives good results

To get the blurriest background, you want the shallowest depth of field and background to be a long way from it.

Focusing on a close subject makes the DoF narrower, so you want to take a close-up with nothing in the background, and you'll be sorted. This applies to any lens and camera incidentally.

Yep, I misread your OP as f2.8 when it's a f1.8 lens, so the bokeh is best at 1.8.

What mol said, plus if you have sources of light in the background you'll the that dreamy dappled look.

I heard or read that if the lens is fully open points of light will be circles, if it's stopped down you will get hexagons?

if it's stopped down you will get hexagons?

From wiki-pedia:

The shape of the aperture has an influence on the subjective quality of bokeh as well. For conventional lens designs (with bladed apertures), when a lens is stopped down smaller than its maximum aperture size (minimum f-number), out-of-focus points are blurred into the polygonal shape formed by the aperture blades. This is most apparent when a lens produces hard-edged bokeh. For this reason, some lenses have many aperture blades and/or blades with curved edges to make the aperture more closely approximate a circle rather than a polygon. Minolta has been on the forefront of promoting and introducing lenses with near-ideal circular apertures since 1987, but most other manufacturers now offer lenses with shape-optimized diaphragms, at least for the domain of portraiture photography. In contrast, a catadioptric telephoto lens renders bokehs resembling doughnuts, because its secondary mirror blocks the central part of the aperture opening. Recently, photographers have exploited the shape of the bokeh by creating a simple mask out of card with shapes such as hearts or stars, that the photographer wishes the bokeh to be, and placing it over the lens.[11]

Had a Canon 50mm f1.8 mk2 for about 6 years. Not used it in a long time due to hardly touching my SLR stuff for quite a while, but it's a lens I love. Cheap but gives good results

Ditto the above, just with Nikon replacing Canon.

Bokeh? £6 ebay manual lens. Lovely.
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Speaking from recent experience, it's hard to get bokeh when photographing babies as they're never that far from the background, unless in Mum's arms, etc. Once they can sit up it gets easier.

No bokeh in any of those!
Edit: if I was feeling generous I might give you the first two.

Recently, photographers have exploited the shape of the bokeh by creating a simple mask out of card with shapes such as hearts or stars

Classy.. must try that!

Re babies, this is not a bad effort from a friend of a family member:

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This was one of my first attempts with the Canon 50mm

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I was under the impression that bokeh wasn't merely the background being out of focus but also the definition of the shape of the aperture highlighted around the light sources?

Nikon f1.4 50mm Prime

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Not a baby, but a selfie eating breakfast...

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Bokeh is background blur. It can be pleasing, ugly, or weird.

Another Nikon 50mm at f1.4...

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Is my bokeh too bootylicious for you babe...

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Nikon 35mm prime.

heres some test shots from this weekend, I feel sorry for my cats and nephews, but I need subjects to practice on!!

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Boke (not with an h, that's an Americanism because they can only say words how they are spelt) is not, I'm guessing, what you're looking for.

You want, I think, a non distracting out of focus background so that your subject 'pops'. Three things control this:

A. The ratio between your distance to subject, and subject distance to background. The shorter the former and longer the later the more out of focus your background will be.

B. Aperture. Larger apertures (smaller f numbers) mean less of the shot (distance wise) is in focus.

C. Background choice. A pastel uniform background will work better than a high contrast busy one.

Boke is controlled by the lens design, one lens may have a very smooth and pleasing rendition of out of focus highlights (AFS 50 mm f/1.4 G Nikkor ), another similar lens from the same manufacturer might have very harsh boke (MF & AF 50 mm f/1.8 Nikkor). Stanley Kubrick, liked to de-coat all his Nikon lenses as in his opinion it improved Boke.

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You don't need wide apertures...

135mm f4.5:

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230mm f5:

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Boke (not with an h, that's an Americanism because they can only say words how they are spelt) is not, I'm guessing, what you're looking for.

You want, I think, a non distracting out of focus background

I thought boke was a Japanese word meaning 'blur'? If so then he does want boke. What you are talking about is the quality of that boke.

Anyway you forgot two more points. Large aperture is helpful because it produces shallow depth of field, but there are other ways to control depth of field. If you are closer to your subject you get shallowe DoF and as 5e demonstrates in his second picture, a long focal length (ie telephoto) also gives a shallower DoF.

[quote=5thElefant ]You don't need wide apertures...
135mm f4.5:

230mm f5:

True, but only if you have a long lens to start with

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F5.6, but a 300mm lens - that makes for a very shallow depth of field. f5.6 on a 50mm lens would result in the depth of field being much greater

f5.6 on a 50mm lens would result in the depth of field being much greater

But... the main factor is the distance of the background from the subject.

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taken with my 17-55mm f2.8 - got some cracking shots with my 50mm f1.4 too 🙂

Bought both new lenses in time for the sprog arriving - figured if I was ever going to buy them, then that was the time!

Dave

You also don't want to go overboard with the shallow DoF. Close up with a large aperture you could get someone's eyes in focus but their ears and tip of nose out. And it makes focusing really hard too - camera shake happens front to back too, and once you think you've got a focus lock you can still end up with out of focus shots.

Try taking a picture of something with regular markings, check fabric or a ruler or something, at an oblique angle. Then you can see exactly what's going on with the DoF. It's interesting to do.

Very true. The obsession with narrow depth of field for portraits baffles me. You need to stop down to get an entire face in focus. It's back to needing adequate distance to the background for subject isolation, not a wide apeture.