Cougar-
Sucks to be a motorcyclist in your Utopia.
thats exactly why i wrote these words
for cars
Veg oil is where it's at for the T4 should it be necessary 😀
thats exactly why i wrote these words
Sucks to be the driver of a Smart in your utopia. Or a kit car. Or any one of a hundred other vehicles with a small fuel tank.
Also, sucks to be paid weekly, or be unemployed, or otherwise to be in a situation where you aren't painfully middle class, don't have fifty quid of disposable income to hand and instead are trying to balance out how much of the last ten quid you own you can put towards fuel and still be able to eat over the weekend.
I just filled my tank because I hate to be left out.
Sucks to be the driver of a Smart in your utopia
Tank capacity 38l. I'd love to know where I can fill that for <£50.
33L tank, if Google is to be believed (I checked first because I'm sad like that).
Cheapest price I can find for unleaded is 134.9p/L. That's £44.52.
Assuming you're right and it's 38L (presumably there's different models so we could both be right), that comes out at £51.26. So doable, but you'd have to be down to the wire every time you filled up. Currently, anyway.
Regardless, we're splitting hairs. It's a nice idea but bloody stupid, is the point I'm trying to make without actually saying as such.
Just filled up the missus' car at Morrisons in 'artcliffe, Brizzle. A fair few pumps free, drove up, filled up, paid, drove off. No drama 🙂
what did you expect from the british - some sense of proportion. daft statements from the ruling party including stockpiling flammable liquids where they present a health and safety hazard to.families and neighbours, lack of gumption from the opposition in denouncing industrial action that will hit those who aren't paid tanker driver money and businesses generally where staff and goods need to move around to make money. Utter lunacy.
I filled up yesterday because I was just about on the reserve and it was convenient.
the one thing i do applaud is bringing in the forces to try and reduce the chaos.
Farking idiots!
Bath Sainsburys, the idiots wouldn't let another vehicle join the queue in case the station ran out of fuel. This I do understand, but the vehicle that wanted into the queue was the frickin petrol tanker delivering fuel!!!
Oh, and me as I sneaked through to get enough fuel to get to tomorrows job interview 🙂
damn! the peasants are revolting again dear!
industrial action that will hit those who aren't paid tanker driver money
So that's the issue here is it ? .........that the consequences of this action will hit people who are paid less than those causing it ?
You must have one hell of a problem with a government of millionaires by millionaires for millionaires then.
Specially as their actions are indisputably screwing ordinary working on behalf of their super-wealthy mates.
Who incidentally screwed everybody up in the first place, and then demanded that ordinary working people, who earn a fraction of what they earn, bail them out.
You must be absolutely livid. How do you cope ?
Either your reply is misplaced or you're mistaken as to who started the thread.
Believe it or not, it aint all about you, Cougar.
The GF dieselled up her new car for the first time today...
"How many miles had you done?"
About 500..
did you brim it up again so we can check the consumption again?
I only put half a tank in- I was in a rush..
"What about he tanker strike?"
"What tanker strike?"
So the moral of this story is never let them put the news in Grazia or on the TV anywhere near "New Girl"
IMHO the media should be banned from reporting on strikes.
Filled up about an hour ago, no queues, no hassle, no argy-bargy, no angry Moms filling up puke wagons, just lil old me and a bloke on a vespa.
Pathetic.
Regardless, we're splitting hairs. It's a nice idea but bloody stupid, is the point I'm trying to make without actually saying as such.
No - it's a perfectly sensible idea which would solve the problem of panic buying at one stroke, just that £50 might be a bit high.
To be fair, I've been past several petrol stations today and not seen queues at any of them - maybe it's just not come to this rural backwater yet (though I'd have thought Malvern was well stocked with the sort of demographic who do 100 miles a week and worry they've only got enough fuel for 4 weeks driving).
Believe it or not, it aint all about you, Cougar.
I don't think I'd ever be so cocksure as to think anything was "all about me".
You were replying directly to my post. If the reply was intended for someone else, that wasn't clear.
Believe it or not, it aint all about you, Cougar.
Is it about me?
I'm not cool.
it's a perfectly sensible idea which would solve the problem of panic buying at one stroke, just that £50 might be a bit high.
It's a superficially sensible idea until you stop and think about it. Then it's a completely daft idea for reasons as discussed in my earlier post. To wit, practicalities aside, not everyone has (arbitrary amount of money) sloshing around. Some people put in a fiver because, radical as this might sound, [i]that's all they have.[/i]
Hell, middle-class shortsightedness aside, what happens when you lose your wallet and you're out in the middle of nowhere with only a handful of change to your name? Or if you're in your car filling a canister for your mate who's run out?
As for "solving the problem of panic buying at a stroke," is it really a huge problem that needs solving in the grand scheme of things? It's not like it's a daily occurrence.
You were replying directly to my post. If the reply was intended for someone else, that wasn't clear.
I was replying in general on a forum thread and not necessarily talking directly to you.
Clear enough?
Hearing we were going to run out of petrol, I dashed to the nearest petrol station. Finally I got to the pump, only to realise I had forgotten my car. At a loss, I filled my pockets full of petrol and legged it.
It was only when I got home, I wondered what the hell I was doing. My car's a diesel.
I put a tenner in tonight. I have a lot more money than that but that's all I needed.
There's a lesson there somewhere.
I was replying in general on a forum thread and not necessarily talking directly to you.
Clear enough?
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You're better looking than you come across, Ernie!
No - it's a perfectly sensible idea which would solve the problem of panic buying at one stroke, just that £50 might be a bit high.
Imho, It's a bloody stupid idea.
I run a diesel van that does 700 miles or so to a tank.
In between filling the van, I need to fill a couple of 5 litre jerry cans with petrol so I can run the generator in the back of the van so I can earn a living.
How would that work ?
Some people get so up tight when I ride past the queue, pull up behind a car at the pumps and fill up while the driver is in the shop paying. Their evil looks so upset me.....
😆 Its a lovely feeling isnt it 😆
I thought i was going to get shot today when i did that before i kindly reminded the driver that i pushed my bike past two cars filling up, filled my bike up, moved it to one side so as not to cause an obstruction, and then paid for it- before he'd even moved.
So no-one was inconvenienced at all 😆 😆
Anyway- it's all a government scam to get people to fill up by scaring them all isnt it? It must've raised alot of revenue!
This is hilarious (from a non-drivers POV) The strikes, that may or may not occur, are two weeks from now. I can walk or cycle everywhere in my 'small' city. I rode 28 miles today and never passed a petrol station so can't comment except repeat a post a friend made on FB that he went to a supermarket here and the queues were massive for fuel.
I am, however, going for a large food shop in two days and the shelves had better not be emptied by end of the world believers. I don't eat bread, but UHT milk is essential (I'm not hoarding, I live in an attic, it's heating up and my fridge can't cope with fresh milk) Plus, the zombie invasion isn't till December.
Anyway- it's all a government scam to get people to fill up by scaring them all isnt it? It must've raised alot of revenue!
Nearly. Really it's a government scam to divert as much attention from [url= http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-17504261 ]this lamentable story about our dear leaderzzz.[/url] And goodness me, isn't it working? Nothing gets a nation riled up like a fuel crisis. Oh look, nearly everyone has forgotten the rest of the 'real' news over the last week. 👿
I felt like a prime gimp as i had to fill up a jerry can. Only a 5L one though. It had nothing to do with the strike, more to do with the fact i'd run the wifes motorbike 11 miles into her reserve the night before as i was hungry and wanted to get home for food. So may not have made it to the fuel station.
I think everyone must have thought i was one of the prime tossers.
Ah, good old industrial action. Bringing the nation together and getting the public on your side. You really can't beat it. God bless those lazy tanker drivers.
Aren't they going on strike about safety and training?
Disgracefull 😯
Aren't they going on strike [s]about safety and training[/s]?
Disgracefull (sic)
FTFY.
God bless those lazy tanker drivers.
Is that why they go on strike every 12 years - just because they're "lazy" ? How do you know that ?
Or is that comment the sort of knee-jerk response one can expect from some dozy div too lazy to be bothered to think for themselves.
And why do you think they might need to get 'the public on their side' eh ? They are in dispute with their employers, you know, those employers in the oil industry like Shell and BP who always make staggering profits even during recessions when most other people are suffering, so whether the public supports them or not is quite irrelevant.
There is absolutely no reason at all why tanker drivers would need public support to win this dispute - they can easily win it without that. Again, this suggests a knee-jerk reaction from a dozy div too lazy to bother working out that this isn't a dispute like public sector workers where public hostility to the employers, ie the government, can to an extent further their cause.
Maybe your brain has gone on strike ?
[i]Is that why they go on strike every 12 years - just because they're "lazy" ? How do you know that ?
Or is that comment the sort of knee-jerk response one can expect from some dozy div too lazy to be bothered to think for themselves.[/i]
No. Going on strike is what one can expect from some dozy div too lazy to be bothered to think for themselves.
[i]And why do you think they might need to get 'the public on their side' eh ? [/i]
Nothing. Bizarre.
[i]They are in dispute with their employers, you know, those employers in the oil industry like Shell and BP who always make staggering profits even during recessions when most other people are suffering, so whether the public supports them or not is quite irrelevant.
There is absolutely no reason at all why the tanker drivers would need public support to win this dispute - they can easily win it without that. Again, this suggests a knee-jerk reaction from a dozy div too lazy to bother working out that this isn't a dispute like public sector workers where public hostility to the employers, ie the government, can to an extent further their cause.[/i]
Your response suggests someone trying to read things that aren't there. Take a day off. Maybe make a placard or two.
[i]Maybe your brain has gone on strike ?[/i]
If it had, does that mean another day off work? Brilliant.
State sponsored idiocy of the highest order. Their distraction plan seems to be working pretty well though.
People who voted for this government - I hope you're proud of yourselves.
So you can't answer the question why tanker drivers would need 'the public on their side' to win this dispute then.
Neither the drivers nor the employers need the public to settle this dispute one way or the other.
Seems my suggestion that your comment was just a knee-jerk reaction from a dozy div too lazy to bother thinking was correct.
Bless. Poor dozy div. I can't answer that question, because it is something you have formed in your own little addled mind. And yet in the next line you state the opposite.
Have a lie down.
I can't answer that question, because it is something you have formed in your own little addled mind
LOL it was you that said it mate ! 😀
Here, let me quote you :
[i]"Bringing the nation together and getting the public on your side"[/i]
So go on - tell me why they need the public on their side to win this dispute, I'm all ears.
You can't can you ? Because you hadn't bothered thinking about what you were typing.......pure laziness.
the huge corporations they work for have been cutting
costs so they can boost profits.
I really want the person driving around with 30 tons of explosive fuel to have proper training.
Aren't they going on strike about safety and training?
No, they're going on strike for better pay and conditions but playing the 'safety and training card'.
Let's imagine they walk out of ACAS with all the safety training they want but required to work the same hours for the same money. Do we think that will be the end of the issue?
I thought their T&C were being eroded - loss of final salary pension etc ? I guess they'd have a right to act against that, after a ballotbetter pay and conditions
No, they're going on strike for better pay and conditions but playing the 'safety and training card'.
It must be very confusing for the employers - not knowing what the drivers actually want.
When do you think the drivers will tell the employers what they actually want ? I can't see this dispute settled until they do.
This playing the wrong card malarkey seems like a waste of time to me.
I filled up my Smart on Saturday, (26.45 litres, £38.33) I've never managed to get more than 30 litres in it and Saturday was my 71st fillup.
I usually fill up when I've done around 400 miles and as I'm not back at work till 4th I'll not need fuel till the middle of April.
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Had to queue up this morning with a load of overweight smokers, all putting £10 worth in their stupid little cars
Had to queue up this morning with a load of overweight smokers, all putting £10 worth in their stupid little cars
This is what happens when the government whips the proles up in to a feeding frenzy.
No, they're going on strike for better pay and conditions but playing the 'safety and training card'.
You really feel for the oil companies in this scenario don't you. How could they possibly afford better pay and conditions for their workers?
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I thought they were all sub-contractors
I thought they were all sub-contractors
I think the whole industry has been split out now, so each part of the supply chain is run by different companies. This is one of the issues that they are threatening to strike about - everyone is driving costs down at the expense of safety.
not everyone has (arbitrary amount of money) sloshing around. Some people put in a fiver because, radical as this might sound, that's all they have
You have to wonder how such people manage to scrape the money together to pay for their insurance and VED...
drove past 7 petrol stations this morning, 5 of them completely dry, all pumps wrapped up with 'empty' signs', the other 2... one had cars queueing for what felt like miles, the other was nearly empty and running as normal.
weird.
Dibbs...
45hp.! Does it go uphill.?
Whoever devised this strategy to move the news foucs, should get a second helping of pudding.
4 miles worth of fuel left in my car! Petrol stations had a ridiculous queues - train/bike for me today.
You have to wonder how such people manage to scrape the money together to pay for their insurance and VED...
Oddly enough, tax / insurance dodging is neither the exclusive pursuit of the poor nor applicable to all of them.
I truly boggle. Some people really do live in ivory towers, don't they. Are you so far removed from reality that you simply have no comprehension of how someone can struggle to make ends meet and yet not be a criminal?
There was some eejit of a tanker driver on the news last night whinging that because of his [i]evil[/i] employers he had to work long hours and didn't get to see his family.
These people need to take some responsibility for their own lives, make a choice. Do you want to earn £45k for a job that requires relatively few qualifications in exchange for long unsociable hours or not? Lesser paid but shorter hours jobs for people with a HGV license do exist. Get a grip.
On the plus side the roads were nice and quiet this morning!
Sat in a queues for £1.49/litre fuel with the engine running?
I think our time on the planet is almost up.
Well today i filled up the micra, with a massive 30ltr tank, and three 5ltr jerry cans. I dont even feel guilty. 😈
Are you so far removed from reality that you simply have no comprehension of how someone can struggle to make ends meet and yet not be a criminal?
No - but I have no comprehension of how it's possible for somebody to manage to afford the huge sums required to run a car, yet only be able to afford to put in £5 worth of fuel.
I have no comprehension of how it's possible for somebody to manage to afford the huge sums required to run a car, yet only be able to afford to put in £5 worth of fuel.
I think that's pretty much what I was trying to say, yes.
Well today i filled up the micra, with a massive 30ltr tank, and three 5ltr jerry cans. I dont even feel guilty.
Don't feel guilty, just feel like an utter moron. HTH.
It's not the fuel ditribution but the FOOD distribution that ought to concern you all. How will fresh milk get from the farm to your fridge?
conspiracy hat on, do you think we a very close to a second quarter of negative growth on the bounce ? and goverment is trying to nudge the growth figures up a touch by us bulk buying petrol ?
It’s like the 80’s all over again. Dave (Maggie) ruining the country and Ed (Neil) too close to the unions and hence unelectable.
Tories are encouraging panic buying even though there is no date set for a strike for two reasons:
1. Deflects attention from tricky #camdinewithme issue (remember that?)
2. Creates bad feeling against the unions, knowing Ed Miliband can’t say too much as he is only there because of them, hence making him look weak and compromised (which he is).
But a fuel price spike won't do the economy any good.
The strikes, that may or may not occur, are two weeks from now
😀
Don't go round pointing out actual facts, it just makes all the sheep-like twazzers rushing around buying petrol look like massive pillocky idiots ... oh, too late ...
No - but I have no comprehension of how it's possible for somebody to manage to afford the huge sums required to run a car, yet only be able to afford to put in £5 worth of fuel.
Tory in 'unable to comprehend what life is like for the plebs shocker'.
I drove past an Asda petrol station this morning and they are queuing about a mile down the road.
I honestly don't 'get' it. Can someone please explain why they are doing this beyond me thinking they are short-sighted idiots.
If you fill up, by next weekend (IF there is a strike) you'll need to refill again anyway if you are going away as you'll probably commute.
OR..Would you really want 5-10litres of highly flammable fluid in your boot or anywhere near your property?
Are these the same people who will block you on a motorway etc by accelerating as they can't see pass one extra car length in life?
interesting figures
32,897,000 (vehicles 2006) * 30 litres * £1.4 = £1,381,674,000
OK some massive assumptions, but still a quarter of that spent over a week is not to be sniffed at.
yup the torries are still pushing this- the energy minister said today that any half full tanks should be topped up
it seems to be working
its front page news
the gullible masses are queueing at the forecourts (see siezednuts post)
i still reckon a pre april surge in fuel buying will help the books look better for osborne
but mainly its detratcting from camdinewithme
it was also pointed out yesterday that using taxpayer owned buildings (like no10) for party fundraising was illegal too- that didnt make the headlines!
Fuel sales figures from RMI Petrol for Wednesday say petrol up 81%, diesel up 43%
yup the torries are still pushing this- the energy minister said today that any half full tanks should be topped up
They are saying that even today? They really need to be voted out. Tossers. Why couldn't they just face the £10million donatee' dinner?!
out of interest...
cant see 5 litres in a proper jerry can being worse than 70 litres in an underslung jerry can under your car...
funny what people worry about.
i still reckon a pre april surge in fuel buying will help the books look better for osborne
Can we expect the same this time next year then?
Can we expect the same this time next year then?
yes if it means avoiding the "R" word.
I wonder if we'll have any more riots this year, could be particularly bad if everyones got litres of petrol stashed around the house!
out of interest...cant see 5 litres in a proper jerry can being worse than 70 litres in an underslung jerry can under your car...
funny what people worry about.
In a way I agree however the tank is underneath/designed and positioned in a certain way. Yes it will leak if you have a heavy rear end. However keeping petrol inside the cabin, even if its in the boot is daft IMO.
You have to wonder how such people manage to scrape the money together to pay for their insurance and VED...
Well, it's just a thought, but maybe they save for it (weekly or monthly) so they have the cash available when its needed.
I know that's what I do.
just an odd thing to worry about. a proper jerry can is tough as ****. and inside the 'protected'/crumple zone of the car.
ah well. it's a side point really.
Anyone posted this yet?
I wonder if we'll have any more riots this year
I don't see why not. Just look at the incredible results following last years riots.
Setting fire to stuff and stealing other stuff is the best way to drive economic and social development.
The UK has become a utopia.