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Plenty of thick people with
the usual “9 GCSEs, 3 A-Levels and a Degree
...
I got 4 x Cs at GCSE
I got 5!!!! Although I did re do English and get a C in that too!!
It has changed a lot since I started work in the 80's though. I had some low grade A levels but managed to end up doing pretty well in a job that 100% needs a degree these days
School didn't work well for me either (socially or learn/revise/test) but I don't bitch and whine about it and is reality we can't have 100 different types of schools to suit 100 different types of pupil
iAll of that requires actually going into a school though.. out in “the real world” education happens in many different ways, only some of which involve classrooms now. (I mean 2000+ not Covid times)
So hitting your point…. what do you mean by “teachers”?
Are you including the people who contribute to learning apps? (such as pointed out earlier Duolingo)
Sorry, wasn't in work yesterday.
To be honest I hadn't thought of the contributors, but do they teach as well as d this? Or are they teacher trained but no longer teach? I dont know. But when i say teacher, I mean one from a school environment.
Yes, learning take many forms and a lot can be 'picked up' in the real world with no formal training, but school is part of that full package. The education system of the UK needs a proper look at, modernisation and the whole career of being a formal teacher needs to be recognised and lauded a lot more.
The 6 weeks holiday is a perfect example of the wrong way this is looked at. Yes they get a "nice long summer holiday" but the general public don't even consider that most teachers, as had been hinted at by posters on here, spend time almost every weekday (and sometimes weekend) evenings, doing marking/planning/task setting etc. because there aren't enough teachers, so they have no time during the day to do all this, and this is unpaid hours. so yes, teachers deserve all the holidays they get.
POAH
different teachers; different subjects; different conditions in school. You’ll find a lot of kids change year to year. How old is he now?
I think in part it's what you said earlier ... he's bored because everything gets explained 5 times and even when he might benefit from the 23nd the 5th is well into hoping to be sat next to a window time.
Add to that his previous enthusiasm has been curbed due to widely different practices.
He's always loved reading and in Yr3 he was allowed to use the Yr 6 library but then his Yr 4 teacher stopped that. (Just an example) Essentially he doesn't see the point in sticking out. He also made this worse for himself by deliberately "fake asking" the teacher about certain things in Yr6 books that were probably inappropriate for Yr4.
Add to that the grading system. It doesn't matter how well he does in terms of answers only how he performed compared to last term/yr. If he does well one term then he can only get a meets expectations the next term.
He started his last year at primary with some enthusiasm but it quickly became clear he couldn't please his form teacher (other than by being quiet perhaps).
kerley
and is reality we can’t have 100 different types of schools to suit 100 different types of pupil
You are conflating schools and education (again) ... Most employer's today find they get better value and results from allowing different types of learning.
crazyjenkins01
But when i say teacher, I mean one from a school environment.
Yes, learning take many forms and a lot can be ‘picked up’ in the real world with no formal training, but school is part of that full package. The education system of the UK needs a proper look at, modernisation and the whole career of being a formal teacher needs to be recognised and lauded a lot more.
I think the first thing is to do an unbiased assessment of what that whole package should/would look like and then do a gap analysis and plan.
However that unbiassed assessment isn't going to be unbiassed if we pre-decide that schools are what works best for everyone.
jami1974
I think we need to revisit the purpose of education – especially as automation increases. The original notions of social control or creating effective parts to fit in our economic machine don’t seem so relevant to me.
We also then need a mandate for that... or clear opt outs.
Those who don't want social engineering on their children and pay tax should have a clear return on their investment no to mention those who don't have kids and pay tax.
It's a pity you didn't get taught to write more concisely. Did the teachers used to always leave a TL:DR on all your work 🙂
kerley
It’s a pity you didn’t get taught to write more concisely. Did the teachers used to always leave a TL:DR on all your work
The answer to you was 23 words.
Well done, try and stick to that from now on. Your answer was also crap but we will work on that in your next lesson.