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Agreed, though the tone of the twitter feeds sound ditinctly unworklike, unless tsy is paying Him to ride from Geneva to Monaco. I don't see how one would contemplate that trip, before settling their debts. Some problems wit prioritisng i rhink.
How much are you owed SamCooke?
I can't help thinking that there is a big hole here. It's a very dangerous game to play, using the internet to promote and run a business. I find it difficult to believe that someone would commit such a public commercial suicide.
His reputation or lack of it now can only be restored if he posts up why he's been unable to refund.
Why should he post up here if things are being done behind closed doors? If you're not involved, then you're simply fanning the flamesand not adding anything positive.
Like many things there is more to it than meets the eye.
I'm not iDave's Accountant... maybe I should be 🙂
Edukator - I'm on your diet plan!
Why should he post up here if things are being done behind closed doors? If you're not involved, then you're simply fanning the flamesand not adding anything positive.
I think the lack of things happening behind closed doors is the reason for the posting here by affected people and therefore looking for a response from others.
I see nothing wrong in others adding their opinion
I see nothing wrong in others adding their opinion
Me neither as long as we are able to differentiate between an opinion and a bayer of blood. 😉
Me neither as long as we are able to differentiate between an opinion and a bayer of blood.
oh, I think most people can manage that
oh, I think most people can manage that
I think you'd be surprised.
what about if the country paid G4S for a full security package for the Olympics....
I don't imagine cycling about in France for few weeks, is the best way of dealing with serious financial issues
+1
I think the lack of things happening behind closed doors is the reason for the posting here
+1
As things stand, i'm funding iDave's jolly around Geneva.
I don't care what difficulties you are experiencing, 3 months in you will have been able to pull your finger out.
How much is a decent road bike worth? and flights to Geneva?
sounds a lot like he couldnt give a $hit what the half a dozen customers STW has brought him think.
particularly if all the other storys are true, its a bit of a drop in the ocean.
And just because you *points* would take care of your debts before going on a jolly, doesnt mean that everyone would. What Would Bradley Wiggens Say?
And just because you *points* would take care of your debts before going on a jolly, doesnt mean that everyone would
Quite.
But you'd think someone whom is repeatedly testified for as a 'decent bloke', would.
What Would Bradley Wiggens Say?
He'd say .........
"oi soobalias, it's ****ing Wiggins, you c***
Me? Im owed my reputation. I recommended this to some colleagues. I stand to lose momre than just money.
How's that? Or would you prefer a different answer. Just to be clear i am not baying of blood. I'm not sure how to do that.
yep, another promise of some cash (6 days ago), and another failure to materialise
Can't tsy ask him what is going on?is anyone else here in touch with him?
Is slimjim the only one owed?
Perhaps an email to his business partner might bring some answers?
Project I was to start on Monday put back until Oct so my sports performance/marketing gun is for hire, 2 days/week. #rentabrain
Latest tweet from iDave; you couldn't make it up.
He comes across as a right tosser due to all this. You don't **** people about like this in business.
Well it must be hard work doing all that riding. The bloke deserves a couple of days off a week to relax and you all ought to be ashamed of yourselves for wanting what you paid for!
Why aren't all the creditors tweeting him like there's no tomorrow?
gun is for hire
Which shoots blanks?
Look at it as £90 less cash to spend on food. Result!
In defence, he does give a shit about this, and the problems he's had are quite astonishing, and a lot bigger than your £300 or whatever.
Someone else had paid for the Marmotte, and he works in Geneva regularly.
He did get quite a lot of sympathy from me during the whole 'my life is falling apart' period.
That's pretty much been lost now though.
I'd be on their facebook page and twitter account like a rash if it was me owed this money.
How many "I'm owed money by @ffflow for a trainign plan they didn't deliver and they won't even discuss it with me' tweets would it take?
Most cyclists are followed by a lot of other cyclists and people have good memories for this sort of thing.
[i]he does give a shit about this, and he has way more people demanding way more money off him than you lot, through nothing he's done.[/i]
so why not decline the free holiday and spend the time talking to people about what he's going to do to sort the situation out or, heaven forbid, maybe earning some money to actually be able to pay them back?
He's pretty much deserted stw these days so he's clearly aware what's being discussed on here and even if he can't actually pay people back [i]they deserve more than empty promises[/i].
It wouldn't be STW if we didn't all throw in our opinion without really knowing what's going on...
but I think that's my point - he doesn't seem to be tellign people what's going on.
If he can't pay why promise he's going to?
I understand he has problems but I suspect he's not going to solve them by goign on cycling holidays and ignoring people who want their money.
It's only going to take a few people to go to small claims and his business will be in real trouble.
but I think that's my point - he doesn't seem to be tellign people what's going on
I don't know. I can only go by what people post on here, and I tell people I'm a sexy young female a lot of the time.
[i]I tell people I'm a sexy young female a lot of the time. [/i]
and you're not 😯
This is akin to finding out that Linda Snell on the Archers doesn't look like Edwina Currie.
Another mental image shattered.
It's okay... I'm 2 sexy young females 🙂
Plus we're sisters and have a things for guys with a stammer.
r-r-r-r-really?
boring explanation: the www thing was a mistake really, I should have hyphentated it to ww-as-was. I used to be weekendworrier but re-registered.
I must have missed all this, I thought Idave diet thing was some sort or little group thing like the jobtrack collective or the stop smoking collective. Didnt realise it was some bloke selling some sort of weight watchers program thingy...or is that how it works - you hand over your cash so you cant buy pies 😯
He's pretty much deserted stw these days so he's clearly aware what's being discussed on here and even if he can't actually pay people back they deserve more than empty promises.
THIS
It wouldn't be STW if we didn't all throw in our opinion without really knowing what's going on..
he owes folk money, he has promised to pay or deliver a plan and hehas done neither for months , he is on a jolly good foreign holiday and he has left here rather than defend himself
I dont think you need to be Sherlock to work this one out tbh
The only issue is whether he will actually sort his out one day when he can and he seems to be failing to deliver on that so far and not exactly concentrating all his efforts on sorting this out.
I understand he has problems but I suspect he's not going to solve them by goign on cycling holidays and ignoring people who want their money.
Well, I didn't get a postcard, this leaves me wondering whether it was a holiday or work related. 😐
Junky - so, you know it was a holiday and you know he didn't send the plans?
Personally I don't think this is like the RealMan episode because the facts are not clearly in front of us*.
*This won't stop me stabbing him with a pitch fork though.
he doesn't seem to be tellign people what's going on.
In defence of STW, he's not a very good communicator...
thought Idave diet thing was some sort or little group thing like the jobtrack collective or the stop smoking collective. Didnt realise it was some bloke selling some sort of weight watchers program thingy
iDave is a coach, doing all sorts of consultancy. He posted up a diet plan on here for free, no strings, which was good, and continued to answer all sorts of questions.
People then approached him for training plans, paid him, and didn't get them.
he is on a jolly good foreign holiday
He's not on holiday, although he has been riding his bike.
People then approached him for training plans, paid him, and didn't get them.
I think, I'm not 100% sure, that people received the plan, they just didn't get the levels of support they expected.
Having seen some of the questions on the idiet threads I imagine the expectation level was quite high.
Did anyone actually confirm whether porridge was allowed, or not?
I text him asking at least 5 times a day Don...
The problem is not whether he is on holiday or not, really, it's that he's making promises he's not keeping and not communicating with people when they subsequently ask questions.
I think, I'm not 100% sure, that people received the plan, they just didn't get the levels of support they expected.
Right.
He did also have severe and ongoing email issues, more than just a crashed server.
I've given up waiting for a response as it went cold months ago and doesn't look appetising in the slightest now. I'm still hungry though, but have lost alot of weight so I guess it works.
Don - I think it's okay if you make it with custard. Two wrongs make a right or something.
Two wrongs make a right or something.
Got you. It is a bit crusty now, so would it be OK to make into a cheesecakey type thing? I read somewhere on the internet that this could be a good recovery food. Panorama didn't say no.
Make it into a creme brulee with a singed coke topping.
Good idea, why thank you kind sir.
What were the proles talking about again?
Is it only slimjim who is owed?
Proper coke though, not coca-cola.
Coca-cola?
Well, it's clear he still has his supporters.
Well, it's clear he still has his supporters.
Like that, is it?
Like that, is it?
It would seem so, can't really see any other reason
Does that mean that if you're not carrying a pitchfork, you must be a supporter?
No room for sitting on the fence because you don't have access to all the facts?
Sorry, forgot where I was for a minute, of course, you're right.
Does that mean that if you're not carrying a pitchfork, you must be a supporter?
No
No room for sitting on the fence because you don't have access to all the facts?
There is.
However, it seems to me that those that try to derail this thread might be doing so with some other agenda
However, it seems to me that those that try to derail this thread might be doing so with some other agenda
I will say that you're mistaken in your belief.
Tomatoes, in or out?
Good try! Where's the money?
Whoah, whoah, whoah... I have no agenda when I derail any other thread!
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Good, now ask him where the money is.
Good try! Where's the money?
😆
Good, now ask him where the money is.
Good to see that you've analysed the info and come to a well informed conclusion.
[i]I think, I'm not 100% sure, that people received the plan, they just didn't get the levels of support they expected.[/i]
Nope, contact and payment in March, no plan ever delivered.
Plenty of sympathy for the problems encountered, which is one of my reasons for not being an arse and sending loads of grief through twitter or whatever, but that runs pretty thin when you can't get any response via email.
I would quite happily still take a training plan rather than cash, but that requires some kind of communication 🙁
Nope, contact and payment in March, no plan ever delivered.
Fair enough, all the info I'd seen here was of at least receipt of the plan.
so, you know it was a holiday and you know he didn't send the plans?
Well you know him and that is less than a glowing endorsement
In defence of STW, he's not a very good communicator..
And his job is to train and coach people and he has sold his idiet on here and yet he cannot communicate very well...proper LOL
He did also have severe and ongoing email issues, more than just a crashed server.
Which has thankfully not affected his ability to tweet even if it have affected his ability to post on STW .. hardly a credible defence tbh ...we all know he had issues and we all know he has hardly bent over backwards to rectify them
I think, I'm not 100% sure, that people received the plan, they just didn't get the levels of support they expected.
Having seen some of the questions on the idiet threads I imagine the expectation level was quite high.
I would call that defence tbh whether you wish to prevaricate or not – I think i can guess:wink:
Does that mean that if you're not carrying a pitchfork, you must be a supporter?
Why would you suggest that those who think dave has been unfair to folk and should remedy it are all carrying pitchforks – why the charicature if you are not defending him? Bit tabloid that tbh
Would you be annoyed to be out of pocket for paying for something you did not get?
Surley this is reasonable
IMHO this is worse than RM as he did at least get the bits the only issues was debate about condition, Idave has deliverd far less. Had RM sent one brake and a calliper you may have a point re comparison
He needs to sort it ..it is clear he has unhappy customers, it is clear he has internet access, it is clear he has not sorted it despite promises to do so and it is clear he is free two days per week to sort it
Of course this scam is failsafe, all those who have been stiffed by him will be too fat to chase him even if he does reappear
I think i can guess
And it's just that, isn't it? 😉
Why would you suggest that those who think dave has been unfair to folk and should remedy it are all carrying pitchforks
I didn't mean that I thought that they were literally carrying pitchforks silly...
He needs to sort it
Agreed, but I wouldn't know whether he's in the middle of that process or not, which is why I refrain from commenting either way.
thank you Junkyard, a voice of reason
I think, I'm not 100% sure, that people received the plan, they just didn't get the levels of support they expected.
Lets be clear, I enquired about a plan, I received almost instant response from iDave, we discussed options, we shared information regarding my profile, here's the good bit, he then chased me for payment stating 'your plan is ready to go', he then chased me again.. I contacted him to say his account details were wrong, he contacted me back within minutes offering correct details...
I paid £250
I asked him to confirm receipt, which he did within minutes.
I waited a few days, and scratched my head.
I chased plan. Nothing.
I chased again, to be told ''Im just finalising details, enjoy your last few days of freedom''
'WTF?' I thought, I was told previously, twice, that the plan was ready.
I chased again around a week later, a week or so after that I was told ''I thought id sent it, itll be sorted tomorrow''
I chased again. Nothing.
Repeat x5 etc.
Over the next 3 MONTHS(!!!) I've managed to get 3 responses from him. One was more than a sentance, and said something along the lines of ''you probably hate me, i'll sort this for you pronto''
Nothing.
Last week I was promised a refund again, 8 days later.. guess what..
Nothing.
I'm giving it 24hrs then the Twitter warfare begins, he's has enough time to prove what a great guy he is.
To clarify, great responder until you hand the money over, then, NOTHING.
no plan, no paperwork (heaven forbid he actual mail you a programme in the post!).
NOTHING.
Agreed, but I wouldn't know whether he's in the middle of that process or not, which is why I refrain from commenting either way.
The middle of the process?
In which case, by your reasoning, I can hope to receive a refund in late October?
Sounds fair.
Sounds fair.
Yep, that sounds fair in the typical taking everything literal kind of way that is one of the STW joys. 😉
Well, Don Simon, tell me do you think that they way iDave has behaved is reasonable?
So,
Agreed, but I wouldn't know whether he's in the middle of that process or not, which is why I refrain from commenting either way.
So, you [i]didn't[/i] actually mean that?
I struggle to see any humour there. Even if I still had £250 in my pocket, I think I would still look at your comments and think ''strange that he's unwilling to accept skull duggery is afoot in this case''
or something
EDIT: DP
EDIT: TP
Well, Don Simon, tell me do you think that they way iDave has behaved is reasonable?
That's something that only me and iDave will know.
Why don't you want to share that opinion with us?
Why don't you want to share that opinion with us?
Why would I? It's none of your business.
sure, but you've shared your opinion on many other things here, and it is a discussion forum after all.
OK, so boxers or Y fronts? Boxers let you breathe a bit more. IMO.
Why would I? It's none of your business.
what a crock of shit, why even comment at all?! get the heck outta this thread if youre going to be such an arse.
FFS, I'd love to see your opinion if he owed YOU hundreds
How long does the [i]Process[/i] take? It's not rocket science to send money by bank transfer/PayPal/cheque.. The classifieds on here would be screwed if the [i]Process[/i] took ages...
If he can twitter he can refund money, unless he's spent it..bike riding in France for example...
get the heck outta this thread if youre going to be such an arse monkey
and it is a discussion forum after all.
Arse monkey who gets shirty when they don't like the opinions of others is the biggest arse monkey.
OK, so boxers or Y fronts? Boxers let you breathe a bit more. IMO.
Yeah, but ignoring your creditors and getting your flying monkeys to create interference for you gives you even more breathing space