Yesterday I came onto a group of five vehicles following a truck. Just as I caught up the van first in line overtook. No one else did.
At the next opportunity I overtook the rear two cars. No one else overtook. The car in front was then a Passat.
And I actually wondered if it was Molgrips 🙂
What should I do? So of course at the next opportunity, I overtook them and the truck. And none of them again tried to overtake.
This was all in NSL, and they seemed happy to drive at 40mph for the next 20 miles (which is where the dual carriageway starts).
Yes, that sounds fairly typical and in-line with my experiences.
There appears to be a fear/reluctance to overtake in preference to driving (far too) closely to a vehicle in front. Maybe it's due to the age profile of the (driving) population?
And, of course, some younger people mistakenly thinking that they are waiting in queue 😉
Personally, I much prefer having an clear road in front of me.
Yesterday I came onto a group of five vehicles following a truck
Good effort that, improve you're diet and you might get the truck as well.
b r is "Mr speedy arsehole" fact. 😆
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Can't be, I haven't got a Beemer any more 🙂
Is it an Audi now? 😆
On a more serious note, I think the phrase "you snooze, you lose" is applicable here. Unless you're in America where some roads are a straight as an arrow, you need to take your oppertunities when you can. However, probably as a result of age mellowing me, if I see a group of 3+ cars behind a slow moving vehicle, then I probably wont even bother trying to even partially overtake the group as its not worth the hassle, I'll just sit back and chill.
There appears to be a fear/reluctance to overtake in preference to driving (far too) closely to a vehicle in front. Maybe it's due to the age profile of the (driving) population?
I think the majority of drivers haven't been taught how to overtake, and wrongly assume that getting as close as possible to the car in front is the best way to overtake. The "tailgaters" must want to go faster otherwise why would they sit up the arse of the slow vehicle tapping their brakes every 5 seconds? The trouble is in that position they have made it very difficult to overtake anything.
So to Molgrips' point 80% of drivers probably do want to overtake a slower car but 90% of them never will
Didn't get on STW over the weekend, and just thought I'd post to say that I'm so glad to see this thread is still thriving! 😆
Not sure I can be bothered to catch up with it all though.
I think the majority of drivers haven't been taught how to overtake
Nail -> Head
This thread is still going?? Bloody hell. 😐
Not seen the main protagonist for a while either...
I think the majority of drivers haven't been taught how to overtake
What do driving instructors teach...how to pass a driving test.
Perhaps if lessons were more encompassing, the UK's roads would be safer. Perhaps a motorway driving test too?
How about mandatory eye tests over a certain age too?
I know - more cost etc. but with what long term safety improvement?
I think the majority of drivers haven't been taught how to overtake
IAM training would teach that.
But this forum (possibly this thread) has offered the gem that advanced drivers are boy racers too immature to confine their antics to the track.
So to Molgrips' point 80% of drivers probably do want to overtake a slower car but 90% of them never will
Exactly, they'll just sit there like impotent lemons at 40mph and whinge and flash when any 'totally selfish hooligan' dares to make progress past their mobile roadblock, or dares to steal their rightful opportunity to overtake 1st (the opportunity that they would probably never ever take anyway).
Thing is maybe they are onto something? 40mph on a NSL road followed by the same 40mph through 30mph villages en-route. So any time they loose on the open road is made up when they gain a significant amount of time past the gates of the local primary school. Cunning!
You really are being a prize pillock, rebel12.
The 40mph everywhere crowd really do annoy me. To drive from NSL into a 30mph zone & make absolutely no change in speed is ridiculous...and this from the type to flash their lights as you pass or accelerate as you're overtaking.
They're usually the ones you overtake in a NSL because they're doing 40, then sit on your bumper when you're doing 30 mph in a 30mph limit.
Way to go morons, slow AND dangerous.
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No keep it going, I want to see 1000 posts 😀
molgrips - MemberYou really are being a prize pillock, rebel12.
Cheers 😉 Because I don't agree with you?
No, Flashy...
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...the thread's closing in on the all-important 1,000 post marker, although I'd only give the last 18 hours a 4/10 for effort. 😀
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Because I don't agree with you?
No, because you don't really have an argument, but you're trying to make one up by weaving in little insults and digs, to bolster your posts and presumably make you feel like a winner.
I wouldn't worry too much about it though, most people do it*. At least aracer was attempting to put together a proper argument even though he did it poorly.
* yes I am aware that I am doing it here too.
Just being a spectator is enough.
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No, because you don't really have an argument
I've made my argument clear in the past - particularly about the queue or not a queue thing and highway code reccomendations. Just because you choose to ignore every reasonable scenario I've put forward because it does not suit your argument to respond to it then that's not my fault is it?
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Lets face it. We aint gonna ever catch up and overtake the Thatcher thread.
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I'd like to contribute to this thread.
Not in any useful way
But in my own little way
We aint gonna ever catch up and overtake the Thatcher thread
I blames molly for dithering tbh whilst we all wait patiently for him to have his turn
I blame Thatcher
It was her that instilled the greedy selfish overtaking behaviour into the British motorist
Lets face it. We aint gonna ever catch up and overtake the Thatcher thread.
The fact a thread about overtaking has got even half the number of posts as a thread about Thatcher says a lot.
Can we move on to middle lane driving for another 28 pages?
piemonster - MemberI blame Thatcher
It was her that instilled the greedy selfish overtaking behaviour into the British motorist
I'm pretty sure drives an M3. 💡
I blame Thatcher
Well, she always had some random poor person (probably from the North) hold her wing mirror on her jaunts to the coalfields. Probably caused quite a few queues, that.
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No, because you don't really have an argument
Got to side with rebel & aracer & disagree with Molgrips. There have been numerous arguments put forward, mostly well conceived & in line with the highway code & advanced driving guidelines, yet Mols still knows better & regularly changed the subject to avoid answering pertinent questions.
It is clear Mols is never going to grasp the obvious.
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Well, she always had some random poor person (probably from the North) hold her wing mirror on her jaunts to the coalfields. Probably caused quite a few queues, that.
Well, it's one way to keep your hands warm!
She never had problems with someone on the right of her car.
The person on the left wing was taking their life in their hands.
The person on the left wing was taking their life in their hands.
No wonder George looks edgy.
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Not long now
Strictly speaking Thatchers on his right, so right of right.
Which I think she's ok with
Is making every other post between 950 and 1000 just to push it up the done thing?
It should be 'organic', surely?
particularly about the queue or not a queue thing and highway code reccomendations
The highway code quoted did not support either of our arguments, imo. And advanced driver training seems to cover the actual mechanics of overtaking, but nothing to do with politeness.
My point is simply that - politeness.
If you have given fair chance for someone in front to overtake and they don't, then fair enough. My issue is with people who do not give fair chance for other people to pass, and barge through anyway.
If this is not you, then I have no issue. My issue is with rudeness on the roads. There is plenty of it about, I am sure you will agree.
Strictly speaking Thatchers on his right, so right of right.
So, George is to her left, but not far enough to her left to cause problems?
Damn, politics is complicated.
