It doesn't work on mine, they must be a different sort of pottery.
Won’t that only work if the plates aren’t microwave safe?
I did smash an old plate once doing it on full power (would usually use 2/3rds!)
No idea if you're supposed to (a quick google suggests maybe not!) but I've done it for years without issue. I have seen people suggest using damp plates or putting a cup/bowl of water on top.
It doesn’t work on mine, they must be a different sort of pottery.
I wouldn't do it with your fancy gold leaf plates, no 🙂
I have seen people suggest using damp plates or putting a cup/bowl of water on top.
That sounds like it'd work, even if my plates don't cooperate the water will!
No lah-di-dah gold leaf here, I think they were from Argos.
It doesn’t work on mine, they must be a different sort of pottery
I warm milk in the mug in the microwave before adding coffee.... I can't use some some mugs as the handle becomes way too hot to hold whereas the other mugs are OK. I can only assume it's something to do with what they're made of.
Lots of air inside the ceramic likely
As above since the airfryer has reacked montylikesbeer towers the oven has been reduced only for urchin pixxas which is about twice a month.
It has surprised me how much the airfryer has replaced the oven.
I’m wondering what you’reeating!!
I might have a roast a few times a year, only really eat pizza from the pizza place. I might eat more roast mixed veg or patatas bravas if the oven wasn't such a faff or I had an air fryer I suppose but I cant think of much else.
Virtually all my home meals are cooked from scratch but its all on the hob or bbq (gas grill sorry)
Every day, to make apple crumble, in order to use up the apples from our tree that are not nice enough to eat raw.
Yes, then wait ages for a huge box to heat up, Its time inefficient if not energy, if it isn't energy inefficient i'll happily use it more, but it seems a lot of heat for some veggies for two people.
Yes, then wait ages for a huge box to heat up, Its time inefficient if not energy, if it isn’t energy inefficient i’ll happily use it more, but it seems a lot of heat for some veggies for two people
You don't need to wait for it to warm up with lots of food - baked potatoes, roasted veg, etc will just cook while the oven is warming up. My oven warms up in less than 5 minutes anyway. By the time I've wedged up some potatoes, or sliced the veg, it's warm. And efficiency/ineffiiciency? Surely it depends on what you're cooking and what you want to eat?
Yes, then wait ages for a huge box to heat up, Its time inefficient if not energy, if it isn’t energy inefficient
Is your the oven featured in the house at the start of Indiana Jones and the crystal skull.....
It's ok my old oven was shit too. I replaced it 4 years ago and it's like night and day
Maybe 2-3 times a week, usually at weekends. Generally do stews and casseroles etc in the pressure cooker instead - way quicker, makes it easy for a weeknight.
I don't think its a really old oven, but i'll happily change it if there is something significantly better available, just took 10:40 to get to 180c and its got to be 70l capacity, seems worth it for a big roast but not for a few veg. Im a big fan of my induction hob, is there a similar leap forward in oven technology that I have missed? I really hope there is, im sick of that one, mainly cos the door is in the way when I use the grill, next one will have a slide away door
About once a week I roast some beef short ribs for 30-40 minutes before putting them in the slow cooker. That’s it. Everything else is either on the bbq, in the slow cooker or in a cast iron pan on the hob.
im sick of that one, mainly cos the door is in the way when I use the grill, next one will have a slide away door
Don't get a neff with a slide away door then... The grill only works when the door is closed.
Im a big fan of my induction hob, is there a similar leap forward in oven technology that I have missed?
Yeah, the air-fryer. It's perfect for roasting veg for two people.
Don’t get a neff with a slide away door then… The grill only works when the door is closed.
How bloody stupid is that! Thank goodness you said that, I was just looking on currys and they dont mention it, I'd have been livid!
4 or 5 times a week in winter when I'm doing more hearty food. Baked potatoes, lot's of roasted veg, casseroles etc.
I'm reluctant to get an air fryer as it will just clutter up the kitchen like that breadmaker that now lives in the shed. But I think I've got the solution. I can store it in the oven. Might even be able to get the breadmaker in there as well.
How bloody stupid is that!
Dunno.... It kinda makes sense but might be a bit frustrating.
I generally don't use the grill now anyway.
I’m reluctant to get an air fryer as it will just clutter up the kitchen
It does. We will need to replace our very old range cooker at some point and I hope that, by then, there will be a range cooker available with an air fryer in place of the second oven.
I can store it in the oven.
That's all well and good until you stick the oven on to warm up without checking if there's anything in there first.
I’m reluctant to get an air fryer as it will just clutter up the kitchen
I agree.... don't like having stuff on the worktops so the air fryer lives in a kitchen cupboard which we were lucky enough to have spare*
* well it was after I threw out a load of crap that had been 'hidden' in there!
Thank goodness you said that, I was just looking on currys and they dont mention it, I’d have been livid!
Just checked for you - yep, no grill with the door open... it tells you to close the door. The thing is why do you want the door open anyway?
(Actually I have just one scenario - make a Spanish omelette and then want to finish the top off under the grill, but the pan [inc the handle] doesn't fit into the oven with the door completely closed. My solutuon is to finish the top with a blow torch.)
Don’t get a neff with a slide away door then… The grill only works when the door is closed.
daft question - but why would you want to grill with the door open ? Mines also only works with the door up - which contributes to my food cooking quicker.
I hope that, by then, there will be a range cooker available with an air fryer in place of the second oven.
But an air fryer is hardly any different to a small oven - and they already do ranges with a normal size oven and a small oven alongside.
I warm milk in the mug in the microwave before adding coffee…. I can’t use some some mugs as the handle becomes way too hot to hold whereas the other mugs are OK. I can only assume it’s something to do with what they’re made of.
Microwaves work by generating heat by vibrating water molecules.
The heat you are feeling in the handle of your mugs is from the hot milk conducting heat through the mugs.
Some materials maybe more effective at conducting the heat than others but it's not the microwave heating up the mug directly.
Why would I need a slide away door if I cant grill with it open, when its shut its not in the way! Plus- handles!
Currently going through this debate as we are soon to replace our kitchen.
We decided on a double oven to start with as that's what we have now. We tend to only use the main oven section of it. This is partly because it is a crap old oven that needs replacing & doesn't work very well.
But, we very rarely use both ovens at the same time. So, we then thought perhaps we only need a single oven.
Then we realised you can get compact ovens with microwave function, so to get rid of the microwave on the worktop we are now erring towards a single oven and a compact oven with microwave.
But we do regularly use an airfryer too, so I wonder if we are going to have massive oven overkill and appliances that don't really get used.
The heat you are feeling in the handle of your mugs is from the hot milk conducting heat through the mugs.
No, it's not - the handle gets hot enough in the microwave to burn your fingers yet the milk is only just reasonably warm. Other mugs behave differently on the same power and time.
But, we very rarely use both ovens at the same time. So, we then thought perhaps we only need a single oven.
One the my best ever decisions was to change our hateful range (electric normal/small ovens and gas hobs) for a largish induction hob over two identical single ovens.
No we don't use both ovens simultaneously very often - but it does happen (xmas, people round for dinner, etc). I definitely wouldn't have it any other way if I have the space.
But we do regularly use an airfryer too, so I wonder if we are going to have massive oven overkill and appliances that don’t really get used.
A double-oven would be a great luxury to have if you entertain regularly - that said, I did (successfully!) do Chrimbo dinner for 13 a couple of years ago with just one oven, an air-fryer and a microwave! It was fine in the end but 2 ovens would have been really nice. Realistically how often would that be the case though?
We have a built-in microwave above the oven which is convenient & cuts down on the worktop clutter. I personally wouldn't bother with a combo oven/microwave because 1) an air-fryer is better and 2) I wouldn't want to be without a microwave when cooking for a lot of people!
Had an air-fryer for about a year. Big double oven has been rendered near redundant and gets used about once a month. When we upgrade the kitchen next year, the new oven will be a single with grill and will probably only be used for big roast dinners / Christmas etc. Air-fryer, being a small fan oven, is way more efficient for most meals.
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One the my best ever decisions was to change our hateful range (electric normal/small ovens and gas hobs) for a largish induction hob over two identical single ovens.
thanks @sharkbait
Going a bit OT, but current plan is for an 800mm induction hob and then some combination of ovens, although they will be built-in to a tall unit rather than under the hob.
Like I say, we are erring towards a single oven & then a compact oven with microwave, so we can do away with the microwave on the worktop. They are quite pricey though compared to a normal worktop microwave so it's a bit of an extravagance.
Same as most, 4-5 times per week I'd say. No air fryer here.
It’s casserole weather
Yes it is! Made a lovely casserole with a leg of lamb yesterday, although it went in the oven rather than slow cooker. Dried out a bit, which reminded me why I use the slow cooker for those things 🙂
Here's our 800mm hob [and oven combo] - it's a good size. I did think about a single oven and an oven/micro but the latter was really spendy compared to a normal oven.... and wouldn't match exactly 😉
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As we already had a built in micro I couldn't see the point in getting another so I used the [post-refurb] spare housing and put it into the utility room.
Do you not get really hot if you are cooking something on the hob with something in the oven?
No air fryer, typically use oven once a week for pizza, then after turning it off leave door ajar to heat the kitchen quicker in autumn/winter.
Do you not get really hot if you are cooking something on the hob with something in the oven?
the house we moved into a few years back has the oven at chest height, perpendicular to the hob. Never really thought about it before but makes so much sense! would not go back to the "conventional" layout (oven on the floor, under hob) now!
Do you not get really hot if you are cooking something on the hob with something in the oven?
No because the ovens are insulated.
Never really thought about it before but makes so much sense! would not go back to the “conventional” layout (oven on the floor, under hob) now!
We have another place that's going to get a new kitchen as it's still on the original one from 1979! It's got a 'chest level' double oven which is OK but it's a small kitchen and the tall oven housing makes it seem even smaller.
My feeling is that having an oven below the worktop is no different to having a cupboard under the worktop and you wouldn't think twice about that.
My feeling is that having an oven below the worktop is no different to having a cupboard under the worktop
floor level cupboards are (in my kitchen!) things I'd open less e.g. pots/pans to get them all out in one go, more regularly used stuff is at chest level. If I'm cooking a roast then I'm in and out of the oven constantly. Makes sense to me!
Since getting an air fryer, very rarely use the oven, maybe once in the last year (a pizza). Everything else gets air fried.
My feeling is that having an oven below the worktop is no different to having a cupboard under the worktop and you wouldn’t think twice about that.
Both equally hateful. Big drawers under worktops here, and full size oven and smaller oven\micro in tall unit next to the hob. Use the big oven and microwave most days, and the oven feature in the small oven rarely as it's a bit small when I need it (usually a roast for extended family)
