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Anyone running it yet?
Anyone actually able to download?
Downloading fine (so far) here - I've done 1gb in roughly 10mins.
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It's installing now. HDD on my iMac shat itself recently so figured now is as good a time as any while I'm doing a clean install.
About 10% down.
Done.
Struggling to see what is different to be honest.
Do you need to back all of your documents up? I've set mine installing under the assumption that all my stuff will still be there....
You should always have a backup regardless.
Just finished installing and will take a peek. Looking forward at least to the finder tabs and tagging as I can't abide loads of windows open.
You can't really complain with free though, and I guess the technical improvements will help laptops as opposed to my iMac.
@Bamboo - you haven't got a time machine disk set-up?
I'll wait for a stable version...I bet it doesn't support ios 6 either.
Installed it and it deleted all of my photos of amusing road signs then made all my sufferfest videos 15% harder. WTF?
over 3 hrs to wait for mine 🙁
who's nicked all my bandwidth?
downloaded the GM build a few days ago, Safari has a few new features that i like, but other than that not much APPEARS to have changed. yes there is maps, ibook etc, just haven't used them so no comments.
Don't download it if you have 2012 Air - it might kill the SSD...
http://www.apple.com/support/macbookair-flashdrive/
Mine just imploded after updating Adobe CC
No option to switch to 2D dock....oh FFS 😡
Don't download it if you have 2012 Air - it might kill the SSD...
There was an update earlier in the week to determine if you needed your drive replacing. I bought my MBA in June, and apparently it's ok.
Yeah - the Apple release came out on 17/10 - I killed mine on 19th...
I can confirm that my files are all still there. I'll sort out the time machine tomorrow!
So far I am going to sum up my experience by saying at least it was free.
It's good to see Apple still have no idea what to do with the Dashboard. Either put a bullet in it's head, or do something with it!
Where does it tell you how much it's downloaded?
Edit: doh! Just found it.
Tabbed Finder is handy.
Don't download it if you have 2012 Air - it might kill the SSD...http://www.apple.com/support/macbookair-flashdrive/
Mine just imploded after updating Adobe CC
Oops... mine's been sat doing it for the past hour or so. Not much I can see different except the fan is blaring away, and they've broken Chrome. The magic mouse no longer swipes back a page.
Best go run this tool and see if it's time for a new SSD!
Tabbed Finder is handy.
Shame, like tabs in Safari, it took so long to get here. I have been using [url= http://www.cocoatech.com/pathfinder/ ]Path Finder[/url] for a couple of years, and it just blows Finder into the trash bin. Even [url= http://totalfinder.binaryage.com/ ]Total Finder[/url] has more advance feature set with dual panes etc.
Taking ages to download for me. Ho hum. I fully expect it to break my Adobe CC too.
I fully expect it to break my Adobe CC too.
Photoshop CS6 works.
Anyway, nothing has blown me away, but will have a read through [url= http://arstechnica.com/apple/2013/10/os-x-10-9/ ]Ars Technica's[/url] review tomorrow and see if there is anything I have missed.
So... Is this a worthwhile thing to do now, or is it best to leave you lot to find the bugs for Apple, and I'll update my MacMini and MacBook Air in a few weeks?
So... Is this a worthwhile thing to do now, or is it best to leave you lot to find the bugs for Apple, and I'll update my MacMini and MacBook Air in a few weeks?
I'd wait. [url= https://help.apple.com/osx-mavericks/whats-new-from-mountain-lion ]You're really not missing anything[/url]. Also, if you haven't already and depending on the age of your MBA, run update and see whether you need the SSD firmware update or your drive is borked.
...of course, if you like....erm....anyone? Has been waiting to be able to share links to LinkedIn, then go for it!
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*looks at dock...shudders*
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OK, I feel like a total idiot - how do you figure out how much is left to download?
This SSD issue - is it a case of if Mavericks installs without borking it then it's fine?
All working fine here since installing, downloaded the firmware tool but it won't run as 'unsupported on your system'.
Would quite like to find out if it's going to implode on me as it's nearly 2 years old so warranty almost up!
Creative Cloud needs updating to work, and VMware is running like a dog, but it's OK cos I can fix that by buying the new version for £40. 🙁 Why do they have to change things....
OK, I feel like a total idiot - how do you figure out how much is left to download?
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Would quite like to find out if it's going to implode on me as it's nearly 2 years old so warranty almost up!
2 years? Is that a John Lewis warranty? As standard Apple is 1?
....oh, and what size/date is your SSD/MBA? As only 64/128GB from June 2012 affected.
my app store doesn't have any download info at all. Just says that it's downloading.
my app store doesn't have any download info at all. Just says that it's downloading.
Have you clicked the Purchases tab?
my app store doesn't have any download info at all. Just says that it's downloading.
Look at the lauchpad icon in the dock, it'll have a progress bar and if you hover over it it'll tell you downloaded/total file size.
If you want to see if you should be worried:
http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1690?viewlocale=en_US&locale=en_US
Not going to risk it, i have a fair amount of Native Instruments music software programs along with Ableton and they tend to spit the dummy if i do anything unusual, I'm leaving well alone.
June 2012 MBA 128GB - it's actually newer than I thought. Just after an excuse for a new one I suppose...
Apple's warranty is apparently 2 years direct with them to comply with EU regs. (Sold as 1 year though.) As I found out when I went in the the store a couple of months ago asking nicely for a couple of spare keys as it was out of warranty and a couple had cracked.
They didn't have any spare keys to do the job - so they replaced the top housing & keyboard and were going to replace the battery, heat issue caused the cracks apparently. Apparently a firmware update fixed the battery issue - I was still pretty impressed by the service though given it was out of the 'official' 1 year warranty!
Edit: Having a stupid moment - it's a mid 2011 MBA not mid 2012. It is as old as I thought! Sounds like i'm safe then!
Not going to risk it, i have a fair amount of Native Instruments music software programs along with Ableton and they tend to spit the dummy if i do anything unusual, I'm leaving well alone.
Not really an issue if one has a bootable backup in case things go sideways.
People do have backups, right?
.....but I do concur about NI being useless when it comes to compatibility updates.
Waiting for a bit before downloading, terrific it's free I would have paid to upgrade my trusty 2009 Mac Mini.
Don't have launch pad - I never made the jump to mountain lion. I think I'm still on snow leopard
MacBook is done, and seems to be running a tad faster for it. Will do the MacMini in the morning though, all the other Macs in the house are currently using it to install (it's setup as a caching server).
Yeah i have airport extreme back-ups but it's still a hassle and a nervous wait to see if the NI stuff is going to play ball or not, their software is great when it works but if anything goes tits up their support is abysmal, I've an old Kore hardware unit that used to work great with my NI Komplete 7 package and was a hoot to use as a plug in with Ableton but it spat the dummy for no reason a year or so ago and NI just don't wish to know, fingers crossed my Maschine and S4 will last a good while longer.
I've never had any issue wi Ableton.
Anyone using GPGtools, going into Mail, Preferences and hit update before upgrading to Mavericks. Mail automatically disables the plugin in Mavericks as it's not compatible, and the upgrade facility in System Prefs won't download the new one, and you can't download it from their site yet either.
You'll be fine if you upgrade it before upgrading to mavericks though.
The magic mouse no longer swipes back a page.
For some reason they have disabled this by default. If you go into your mouse settings, you can re-enable it
Now I'm used to "Australia tax", whereby goods cost a little bit more than the exchange rate would predict.
I'm also used to "Apple tax", whereby hardware costs a little bit more than the component list would predict.
But it now seems we have a new monster "Australia Mac Pro tax", whereby it should cost around $4150 based on US prices, but in fact costs $5299. Guess I won't be buying one of those, then....
Would be cheaper to have a holiday to the US and bring one back 8)
It's good to see Apple still have no idea what to do with the Dashboard. Either put a bullet in it's head, or do something with it!
So it's not just me then....
You can carry out your own assassination:
[url= http://lifehacker.com/182657/how-to-turn-mac-os-x-dashboard-off ]How To Disable Dashboard[/url]
You can carry out your own assassination:How To Disable Dashboard
True, but it doesn't address the original question. In that what is Apple doing with it? If they actually put some effort into it, and I dunno, release some new widgets for the first time in about 3/4 years it could actually be useful.
...although the answer seems to be they have forgotten about it.
True, but it doesn't address the original question. In that what's Apple doing with it?
Who cares? It's gone from your system and isn't hogging any resources. I'm sure somebody somewhere uses the 'feature'. Maybe.
Who cares? It's gone from your system and isn't hogging any resources. I'm sure somebody somewhere uses the 'feature'. Maybe.
Top Tip: If you don't activate it after restarting/booting it never loads in the first place.
For anyone else who needs it, instructions for enabling TRIM on Mavericks for after-market SSD upgrades. https://digitaldj.net/blog/2011/11/17/trim-enabler-for-os-x-lion-mountain-lion-mavericks/
What's the deal with Adobe CC then? I did the Mavericks update on my Macbook Pro and some message came up about Adobe stuff not working (didn't see it as my missus was using it).
Is there an update available or should I hold off installing Mavericks on my iMac?
Upgraded this am.
Well I think I did there's some shiny icons appeared.
Upgraded from the one before last with no issues. Seems a mite slow right now, but I have a feeling it's still tidying up after the reboot. I'll give a few more minutes and see what it does.
Other than that? It looks about the same. Maybe a bit smoother, a couple of extra icons (Maps???) in the dock, some missing from System Preferences, I have a strong feeling it installed Java for me too (which I don't want).
We'll see.
Jamie - I like the look of Maverick due to the changes in finder. is it worth upgrading or paying the 40$ for a licence for pathfinder?
Is there any point killing dashboard? Does it save battery/speed things up etc?
Only ask as i've never used it - in fact I just had to google to find out what it was! If I can kill it off and get a bit more battery or performance happy days... 🙂
I've left MrsBouy updating her MBP & my Air... 😯
I expect some rather choice language when I get back home.. 😆
have you seen the maps - looks like around 10 years ago for my area!
Not going to risk it, i have a fair amount of Native Instruments music software programs along with Ableton and they tend to spit the dummy if i do anything unusual, I'm leaving well alone.
My sentiments exactly. ML played havoc with Logic Pro & Ableton on my mac. Very stable back on 10.6.8
have you seen the maps - looks like around 10 years ago for my area!
I can't see how they can ever catch up with Google, who are adding detail 24/7....
Jamie - I like the look of Maverick due to the changes in finder. is it worth upgrading or paying the 40$ for a licence for pathfinder?
Hard to say really. It is, for me, a total finder replacement. Run it full screen so can do all my file bizznizz in one window.
They do a 30 day trial just to have a look at it: http://www.cocoatech.com/pathfinder/
Will you stop using pathfinder in maverick or are the maverick changes good enough?
I've downloaded the demo - its much better than the default finder. But if Maverick has similar functionality I can save $40 but I don't want to upgrade to Maverick too soon in case of issues etc
Will you stop using pathfinder in maverick or are the maverick changes good enough?
Nope.
Main reason is dual pane view...which can have multiple tabs per pane....but Path Finder really is very powerful. Size browser, batch file renaming, drop stack, easy toggling of invisible files, preview, customisable folder views etc.
This might help:
Use it for a week and see how you get on.
ave you seen the maps - looks like around 10 years ago for my area!
Yeah. Much more recent than Google or Bing.
I've only been using it for about the last 30 mins while working and I'm impressed enough to pay the $40 already.
Need to suss out what else I can do and how else it can save time - thx for the tip 🙂
Are there any other apps I should try out?
My personal favourite is [url= http://pilotmoon.com/popclip/ ]Popclip[/url]. It brings the contextual tool bar from iOS to OSX, but with a million times more functionality with [url= http://pilotmoon.com/popclip/extensions/ ]added extensions.[/url]
- [url= https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/popclip/id445189367?mt=12 ]Mac Appstore Linky.[/url]
Here's a Brummie reviewing it on Youtube:
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- [url= https://itunes.apple.com/app/Yoink/id457622435?mt=12 ]Mac Appstore Linky.[/url]
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[url= http://www.macbartender.com/ ]Bartender[/url] is a great little utility for tidying up the mac toolbar. Not essential, but nice if you're a bit of a tart who likes a nice neat toolbar without a million icons up there. Not available in the Mac App store.
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Finally, [url= http://www.alfredapp.com/ ]Alfred[/url]. It's an App launcher at heart. I use it to replace spotlight. Can be used as it is for free, or extra functionality can be opened up when you buy the [url= http://www.alfredapp.com/powerpack/ ]powerpack[/url].
Reviews [url= http://www.macworld.com/article/2035221/mac-gems-alfred-2-ups-the-launcher-app-ante.html ]here[/url] and [url= http://www.macstories.net/reviews/alfred-2-rewritten-from-the-ground-up-workflows-themes-and-more/ ]here[/url].
All available with free trials via their websites.
zokes - Member
Now I'm used to "Australia tax", whereby goods cost a little bit more than the exchange rate would predict.I'm also used to "Apple tax", whereby hardware costs a little bit more than the component list would predict.
But it now seems we have a new monster "Australia Mac Pro tax", whereby it should cost around $4150 based on US prices, but in fact costs $5299. Guess I won't be buying one of those, then....
Rather offset by this though, surely:
http://www.xe.com/currencycharts/?from=GBP&to=AUD&view=10Y
http://www.tradingeconomics.com/australia/gdp
Not sure about popclip tbh based on the brummies video. I'll check it out though, rude not to. Looking at your spaces link had me confused for a while. These are the desktops, right? I cant work out how to assign apps though as the instructions on the clicky you provided don't seem relevant to 10.8?
Yoink. wowsers. Another one of my pet peeves solved today. At this rate I'm starting to develop a bit of a man crush 😉
thanks Jamie 😀
I much prefer Quicksilver to Alfred. Maybe just because it looks so much better.
I thought Apps remembered which pane they were last used in and launch in that one?
I much prefer Quicksilver to Alfred. Maybe just because it looks so much better.
I will have to respectfully disagree with you on that one.
I disagree with you disrespectfully.
Not sure about popclip tbh based on the brummies video. I'll check it out though, rude not to.
Seriously. You will wonder how you got on before using it. Highlighting text and being able to send it to Evernote, a postcode to Google Maps, define a word, search in google, spellchecker etc etc.
Looking at your spaces link had me confused for a while. These are the desktops, right?
Yeah, spaces are what Apple called desktops for a bit. Maybe they stopped being planks, and went back to calling them desktops again?
I cant work out how to assign apps though as the instructions on the clicky you provided don't seem relevant to 10.8?
Right/ctrl click the app icon and select the 'desktop' you want it assigned to:
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If you want your desktops arranged in a different order, just enter Mission Control and drag the windows at the top into the appropriate order. You can also add extra desktops here.
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If any of this is obvious to you, or you know it already, then I regret nothing and Grum is still wrong.
alright - you persuaded me, thanks again Jamie.:)
Just installing mine now. How come its free? The cynic in me is struggling to understand such a move....
Downloaded and installed on a 2009 Mac Mini running Lion (10.7), all trouble free. Like the new features in Finder and Safari especially
Doesn't look like I am seeing free upgrades to numbers, pages, iPhoto - all quite ancient though from iLife 08/09 - have a link (via MacRumours forum) for a free iWork9 trial which is then upgradable for free, will keep you posted if that works
thekingisdead - Member
Just installing mine now. How come its free? The cynic in me is struggling to understand such a move....
Free because there's not much shiny stuff. Joe Bloggs Public don't understand improvements they can't see. So all the performance and power stuff just by-passes most. Apple have obviously decided they'd rather give it away, and therefore get maximum adoption, and then reap the benefits of people having fast(er), and more efficient Macs, rather than making a few more quid.
The next release will probably cost, because it's likely to be a shiny chrome-filled redesign of the UI in keeping with iOS7.
Just installing mine now. How come its free? The cynic in me is struggling to understand such a move....
It's been coming...
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Just installing mine now. How come its free? The cynic in me is struggling to understand such a move....
Few years ago Apple dropped the prices of their machines in an attempt to take market share off Microsoft, and succeeded to a degree.
People new to Mac's then moaned about the high price of software too.
Apple crept the prices of machines back up, and reduced the software costs. Nobody noticed the additional £100 per machine, but everyone was ecstatic they can now update to the new OS for very little money.
The release of 10.9 onto the world for "free" comes only a few weeks after Apple put the prices of some of its base machines up by £50 (or more) again... To be fair, I know I sound cynical right now, but I understand why they do it. If you want to buy a shiny new iMac, the fact that a month ago it was £1099 and now it's £1149 isn't going to concern you in the slightest, but if you had to pay £20 for the latest OS only a few months after you'd bought the machine you'd be annoyed!
This way, as stated above, everyone will adopt quicker meaning they can drop support for older OS's much sooner. I've been running 10.6.8 on my hack, and 10.7.5 on my laptop cos I didn't want to pay to upgrade to mountain lion when I saw (for me) no benefit. As 10.9 is free, providing its stable then I'll be on it pretty soon.
Upgraded from the one before last with no issues. Seems a mite slow right now, but I have a feeling it's still tidying up after the reboot. I'll give a few more minutes and see what it does.
Spotlight is probably reindexing your file system after the update, which would be why it feels slow.
Finally, Alfred. It's an App launcher at heart. I use it to replace spotlight. Can be used as it is for free, or extra functionality can be opened up when you buy the powerpack.
I would recommend Alfred endlessly, I've been using it since Beta, and been a Mega Supporter from the start. Love it, love it, love it!
I much prefer Quicksilver to Alfred. Maybe just because it looks so much better.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I though Quicksilver was no longer in development, and thus is no longer supported? Either way, I must also disagree with you here.