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Taking any kids to Macdonalds, especially not your own just makes you a tw_t. Had this been a fine steak story it would have been funny.
Junkyard - there's a lot of pi$$-taking going on in this thread and we all love Binners cos he makes us laugh. I don't think Binners meant for it to get taken seriously, we all need a bit of light relief in these challenging times.
I understand completely the points you're making and that is obviously your right as a parent. We're all making assumptions about childrens ages, we don't know them so we don't know whether the children in Binners care are able to make an informed decision.
We all have boundaries but they won't be the same as the next person. That's just how it is.
heheh.. good work
someone did a similar thing with my mate's kids
one of them went into anaphylaxis as they were intolerant to much of the crap in the junk food, hence the family's wierd eating habits
It was ****ing hilarious.. the kid's such a spac now from the oxygen starvation so it's the joke that just keeps on giving.. hours of fun watching him stagger about bumping into thing groaning and drooling..
we all call him zombie boy.. funny as **** 😀
They trusted you to look after their kid, you deliberately did something they'd disapprove of.
I'm glad some of you are responding this way, on reading the comments after the op I was starting to wonder if I was the only one thinking it was a bit off.
Why can't said V's let their child decide too? Or is it a case of 'we know whats best for them'?
Fine, but what gives another adult the right to decide that someone elses kid should be eating meat.. (or gluten.. or dairy.. or nuts, or Enumber additives, or antibiotics, or preservatives, or carcinogens, or hormones, or questionable food products?)
If you take a diabetic kid to a sweet shop with his friends and they're all tucking in.. of course he's going to say yes please when you hold out a handful of colorful sweets. I guess you're all good as long as you deliver them home without telling the parent and before the side effects kick in..
is it more acceptable to take a five year old to slaughter a sheep with a knife if they are from a carnivore background, than a vegan one.....What? Now they're knifing stuff? Binners? You evil bastard!
This is Manchester that we are talking about. Hora Jnr is already proficient with a 9mm and three forms of lethal streetfighting.
I'm glad some of you are responding this way, on reading the comments after the op I was starting to wonder if I was the only one thinking it was a bit off.
Nope, you're not the only one. OP very disrespectful and untrustworthy.
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Binnersjnr
Obviously you are joking about this but I don't think it's funny you boasting how clever you think you are, when really all you are saying is you don't respect your friends choices. And are you not just saying to the kids, don't listen to what your parents want because I happen to think they are wrong.
And if it means eating MacDonalds, the parents are probably right and you're wrong.
I knew this would kick off!
I wouldn't take a muslim kid to have a bacon sandwich after an event. If I knew I was looking after a vegan kid, I'd probably ask the parents.
To be honest, given how hard it is to find vegan food in a takeaway/fast food context* I'd imagine the parent knew full well what was likely to happen. At a guess, they aren't that hardline and value their kid's social experiences more than the strictness of their diet.
They may even be fine with their kids making their own choices, but if you really have a problem with meat then you can hardly be expected to cook it for your kids can you? So they would not eat it at home but let it happen outside home.
* and knowing Binners 🙂
And why the big over the top thing about being Vegans (or Level 5 vegans as you call it)? Are you frightened of people who are slightly different from you? Is there a whole family of Vegans living next door?
traildog - the vegan aspect was quite important in binners' original post.
If he'd just said "I took some kids to McDonalds" then this thread would've just kicked off about the nutritional value of a happy meal rather than the ethics of feeding a kid something their parents may or may not approve of.
the children in Binners care
Doesn't sound like there was much care going on.
As a parent of a vegan kid I'm obviously biased but even if we weren't vegan and a well-meaning parent took my lad to McD's, I'd be wondering what kind of numpties he was hanging around with.
C-G I know binners I have met him many times and yet somehow none of them have ever involved public houses nor pastry shops.
I must hold some sort of record in this respect.
How old are these kids anyway?
Lighten up Junky!
Without the comma, I read this as a call to, well, take a few slices off the poor ol' bugger. Or force him on a diet or somesuch...
But I get it now.
I read this as a call to, well, take a few slices off the poor ol' bugger.
Er yeah good luck with that one 😉
[i]One day humanity will view [s]religion[/s] Vegetarianism in the same way we view possession as a suitable explanation for mental illness or the flat earth or any other variety of anachronistic superstitious intepretations of reality that have no basis in fact
If they just sat at home or their places of worship and practiced and left me alone I would not care. Not only do they want to live by their rules they think I should as well[/i]
😉
the vegan aspect was quite important in binners' original post.
I know, but he makes such a big thing about them being Vegan (level 5!) and tears of animals and shadows etc that it just shows a prejudice against someone who happens to hold slightly different views to him. That's my point, what's the big deal? They eat different food and have slightly different values. Who knows, maybe there will be more Vegan kids in school than meat eating kids if we let this carry on. Why be so arrogant that you think your way is right?
Prejudice or a literary device used to heighten the contrast between their views and the visit to Les Arches d'Or? Though TBH I'd expect binners would struggle to comprehend any dietary choice that exludes the entire Greggs menu.
They eat different food and have slightly different values
No, their parents do, and have decided that their kids must have the same.
4 pages of this and no one sees the obvious troll!!!
No one would let Binners near their kids!!!
Everytime I ride through a field of sheep and lambs I end up having a roast lamb dinner. Can't help it. Mint sauce on just carrots wouldn't be the same.
I know, but he makes such a big thing about them being Vegan (level 5!) and tears of animals and shadows etc that it just shows a prejudice against someone who happens to hold slightly different views to him. That's my point, what's the big deal? They eat different food and have slightly different values. Who knows, maybe there will be more Vegan kids in school than meat eating kids if we let this carry on.
Firstly, the "Level 5" thing is an old Simpsons joke.
Secondly, have you never read any of Binners posts on here before?
Incidentally, ever since the Caroline Aherne thread a few weeks back I've read all of his posts in the voice of Mrs Merton, maybe it would help if you do the same?
After that trip to McD's I bet she gets the shits. 😆
To deny any child the chance to have a decent burger or bacon sarnie is tantamount to abuse anyway.
No, their parents do, and have decided that their kids must have the same.
Exactly as parents who want their children to eat meat do. Funny how, when it involves a vegan diet, it is somehow "brainwashing", but wanting your kids to eat meat and dairy is not 🙄
I don't think Binners meant for it to get taken seriously
Given his subsequent absence from the thread, I'm not sure I believe it even happened. Even binbins wouldn't betray another parent's trust in this manner, would he?
bigyinn - Member
To deny any child the chance to have a decent burger or bacon sarnie is tantamount to abuse anyway.
Sadly this is not an example of a good burger.....now 2:30am outside the local nightspot the delights of not only a burger but kebab meat too.
Exactly as parents who want their children to eat meat do.
Nope, I wouldn't dream of saying to my kids 'you must have meat' if they didn't want it - nor would I dream of saying to them 'you're not allowed meat' if they did.
The key point in Binners tale is that the kid was old enough to express their own opinion about what they wanted and chose the maccy-d's - beyond that point their parents opinion doesn't matter a jot.
but it's natural innit, we've got the teeth for it and everthing. [s]God[/s] evolution built us to eat fluffy animalsbut wanting your kids to eat meat and dairy is not
Now she has consumed the flesh of dead animals she will not pass into Vegan Heaven and be forever condemned to walk the Meat & Poultry aisles of Tesco. 🙁
Think I'd be pretty pissed off is someone did that to my kids, bit of a knobbish thing to do and they would never see another Christmas card from me, MrsCat would probably be more inclined to do physical harm though.
best trolling of the year award goes to....
but it's natural innit, we've got the teeth for it and everthing. God evolution built us to eat fluffy animals
well that's only half the story innit..
we appear to be evolving to NOT eat meat physiologically speaking
Tiny canines, digestive tract to long to process meat effectively before it starts to rot etc etc
I may not have been being 100% serious in that post yunki 🙂
I do know that on saturday night after visiting bem brazil my digestive tract was definitely suggesting it wasn't made for a diet quite that rich in meat.
Tiny canines, digestive tract to long to process meat effectively before it starts to rot etc etc
Really? Seen out bite power? Why aren't we evolved then to chew soft veg?
Give over. Really. Practice your veganism in the comfort of your own home or restaurant but dont tell others what to eat I say.
The child mentioned in binners first post probably [b]ASKED FOR THE FOOD[/b]. At no point did he say he pressured or made her eat it for fun.
The parents wishes- what about a childs? Should we subdue free choice?
Thinking about it, I'd be pretty annoyed if I found out too - not so much for the meat eating, but because it shows a lack of respect and a dereliction of trust. They trusted you to look after their kid, you deliberately did something they'd disapprove of.
This pretty much nails it for me.
I'd be pissed off with myself that I let someone look after my kids who showed such a childish lack of respect both for me, and for the way I had chosen to bring them up.
The parents wishes- what about a childs? Should we subdue free choice?
Sex, Drugs and Rock and Roll for all kids. Hoorah!
Firstly, the "Level 5" thing is an old Simpsons joke.Secondly, have you never read any of Binners posts on here before?
Argh, I know! And I said he's obviously joking. There is probably a lot that he's not saying in order for the joke to work.
But the point of the joke being that he was given kids to look after and ignored parents wishes by giving them what they wanted because he thought what they wanted is daft. That's what the debating appears to be on.
Yes, they are children and have their own minds but as a parent you try and steer your children to make the right decisions in life. If you are looking after children then you should respect what the parents want for that child as well as what the child wants, it's part of being a responsible adult.
The fact that they are Vegans seems to make it all ok, though and I don't really understand the prejudice against such a lifestyle decision which is generally shown on this forum.
You lot wait till MTG gets here.
you're in a loooooot of trouble.
[i]Sex, Drugs and Rock and Roll[/i] and meat [i]for all kids[/i]
ftfy
well that's only half the story innit..we appear to be evolving to NOT eat meat physiologically speaking
Tiny canines, digestive tract to long to process meat effectively before it starts to rot etc etc
No, we evolved in tandem with that really clever uniquely human thing we do called cooking
OP, while you're in the mood for buying other people's kids things their parents don't want them to have, I'll have an Alfa Spider please
Some people need to get a grip of the real issue here - He took them to macdonalds!
Some of us clearly haven't evolved. Nice trollage OP!
hould we subdue free choice?
We don't know how old the kids in the OP are (assuming they even exist). My lad is too young to understand why he is vegan. When he is, I'll tell him how animal products arrive on the plate. If he later wants to eat McDonalds, he will make an informed choice and I will respect it. In the meantime I don't want people offering him meat.