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Yep, good stuff. It's all over the Covid thread at the moment.
Yep, made me smile.
I guess his exemption is based on the premise that he’s a wealthy tennis champion so he’s entitled to go anywhere he wants, and his requirements will be met.
Or not.
I guess his exemption is based on the premise that he’s a wealthy tennis champion so he’s entitled to go anywhere he wants, and his requirements will be met.
Or not.
Exactly
Chuffed of Sheffield.
I lolz'd at it.
Too right given he doesn't have a medical reason for not getting it.
Where were these immigration officials when the England cricket team flew in?
Did individuals in the England cricket team flout or attempt to flout border bio security rules? (Genuine question)
Where were these immigration officials when the England cricket team flew in?
Yep, the English squad might have been best to go straight back home 🤣
Did individuals in the England cricket team flout or attempt to flout border bio security rules? (Genuine question)
Not biosecurity per se but I'm sure border security is also interested in people entering for fraudulent purposes; specifically the pretence of contesting an Ashes series.
As has been pointed out by someone on twitter, this finally puts the argument to bed on who is the greatest player of all time
Sure he has similar number of slams to fed and Rafa, but none of them managed it whilst at the same time coping with what I can only assume to be a fairly serious underlying health condition….
^^ Ha!👍😀
Ah,that is good news
Like
Has anyone else noticed you can get COVID out of his surname?
Makes you think.
“Novax Djokovid” - stolen from Twitter
Lolz at the cricket fraud references.
This Novax business suggests (like another thread on here concerning a fella that doesn't sweat), how out of touch some of the these 'elite' tossbags are. They say and do the most ridiculous things, surrounded by lackeys, sycophants, friends in high places and equally entitled peers. Read the room, you're not welcome dude.
Needs a dose of Evusheld. One wonders the grounds for his medical exemption but there some valid reasons. Perhaps he’s hypersensitive to PEG and adenovirus. Maybe. Or not.
The main reason this feels great IMHO is that there have clearly been a lot of people playing the 'medical exemption' card, either to the vaccines or mask-wearing. It's fairly obvious that very few of these people will have a valid exemption, they're just anti-social arseholes. But until now, they've been given a free pass because, well, plausible deniability - and we're not supposed to ask about people's medical conditions.
But it's now laid bare that he clearly had no such exemption and is, as we all suspected, just an arse. It's a relief to see these people getting their comeuppance after the rest of us have been stuttering through, playing by the rules.
Gonad Gotnovax - stolen from Facebook
I don't get the anti-vaccine sport stance. There's a lot of it going on, to the extent that a mate's lad at a football academy is unwilling to get the vaccine as so many of his peers and the professional players aren't getting it.
Surely the risk of the vaccine is much less than the potential impact long covid would have on a sporting career?
Is it a sportsperson belief that they're too fit and healthy to suffer with covid if they get it?
The guy is a gold plated bell-end.
Of all the countries to piss about with though!
Happy of Salford.
Thought he had an medical exemption, but his visa was incorrect - so he isn't getting in due to a bad visa. Nothing to do with having a medical exemption card (which he did), so if his visa was in order, he'd be there and getting to play. He isn't due to a bad visa.
Or have I read a completely different news story to everyone else?
They've still not chucked him out tho... Hearing on Monday so in the Country 6 days. Presumably elite sports people train multiple times per day every day. How's that work in this case?
A lot of folk who get their visa cancelled end up with a couple of years' ban from reentering Australia, so Novax had better play nice if he wants to compete for all four grand slams any time soon.
The Guardian report it thus;
It is understood the reigning Australian Open champion was relying on a previous Covid infection as the basis for his exemption to compete – but that is not recognised by the federal government.
So slightly different take to wrong visa.
Why is Covid within 6 months a reason for a medical exemption?
Why is Covid within 6 months a reason for a medical exemption?
At a guess, you've got antibodies from the infection same as antibodies from a jab. How long they last is an interesting question.
Presumably elite sports people train multiple times per day every day. How’s that work in this case?
Not sure about the current rules but last year the BBC was regularly showing updates from a British player's hotel room. She was doing limited exercises in the room. Hitting the ball off the wall, very short running drills. Obviously far from ideal.
His wife is one of these 5G/Covid conspiracy fruit loops, perhaps he shares similar views.
Whatever, he’s a prat. Hold him in the detention hotel until after the tournament has started than pack him back off to the airport.
And If Mr & Mrs Djokovic do happen to be correct I would pay good money to watch a zombie tennis match.
Thought he had an medical exemption, but his visa was incorrect – so he isn’t getting in due to a bad visa.
No one outside of the parties involved really knows.
We can try and read between the lines. He was cleared to play in the tournament under the AO's rulebook which I believe includes a vaccine exemption if he's had Covid recently. There are a few other possibilities written into their rule book, which you can find online. The AO put out a statement basically asking Novac to publicly share his reason for exemption because the AO can't disclose medical information. He didn't.
The immigration people have a different rulebook and Novac was, apparently directly instructed by the AO that he also needed to, separately, conform to immigration rules. The immigration rules don't include an exemption for recent Covid infection, so the best guess is that he claimed he recently had Covid, which would satisfy the AO but not immigration. Again, we don't know. It's also possible that the immigration people require a higher standard of proof/documentation than the AO, or something like that.
He apparently didn't fill in the vaccine exemption form for his visa, or didn't do it correctly. Perhaps because it was overlooked (seems unlikely), or (more likely) he didn't actually have a valid exemption and just assumed he'd be let in due to his fame. Either way, it seems to have been a very popular move by Scott Morrison, so perhaps there is an element of 'playing politics' here, or at the very least sending a message to Australians that this sort of nonsense will not be tolerated.
Why is Covid within 6 months a reason for a medical exemption?
I'm not 100% sure on the length of time for the different vaccines, but you're not supposed to have a vaccine within x months of a recent infection, because you may get an exaggerated immune response to the vaccine and potentially more side effects (and also less benefit if you've already got circulating antibodies). So if he's had Covid recently, he can't subsequently get a vaccine. Of course, he's had a year to get a vaccine so I have limited sympathy for him falling foul, if that is indeed the case.
Boblo - that may well be true, but it isn’t a valid medical exemption from getting the jab. Medically he could have got vaccinated but doesn’t want to.
As I’ve read/heard it, he has entered on a class of visa that doesn’t allow medical exemptions. It’s a border issue, nothing to do with tennis.
Presumably elite sports people train multiple times per day every day.
I presume the Aussies would be happy for him to bugger off on a private jet and train elsewhere until they've sorted his appeal and the whinings of his country's government.
95% of the world today
Hitting the ball off the wall
Cue Jockyvich memes of him slamming his balls off various walls... 😀
**** me if this is what cheers you up good luck.
Boblo – that may well be true, but it isn’t a valid medical exemption from getting the jab.
Yeah I'm not defending him just responding to the question put with a speculative answer. Makes sense to me that if you've had it, you've got antibodies and if you've had the jab, you've got antibodies. Whether they're the same antibodies or one trumps the other, IDK. The non jab after Covid cos of the potential reaction is just a red herring (I think).
You've either got active qualifying antibodies or you haven't. How you get them should be irrelevant?
Cue Jockyvich memes of him slamming his balls off various walls… 😀
Well if he wants to punish himself in such a personal way thats his choice but I don't want to watch videos of it...... 😯
Jeez there are some haters on here. Lynch mob anyone?
Strong return of Serb there from the Australian...
Is a lot of the cheer all about a lot of us being sick of Covid rules being made but then not enforced? Like those who falsely say they are exept from wearing masks in shops or at work currently, but their exemption often cannot be effectively challenged.
Like those who falsely say they are exept from wearing masks in shops or at work currently, but their exemption often cannot be effectively challenged.
Definitely a bit of this from me.... Had one girl with no mask in the shop the other day say "I've had Covid so I don't need a ask and I'm not worried, I really can't be arsed with masks anymore"
I've cirtainly had an increase in 'i'm exempt' claims in the last few months - and a fair few from people who weren't claiming exemption in the 12months prior.
With the main story though I think it's also a bit of 'im vaxed and ok - why arnt you?' going on. Hoping the antivaxed will start to realise the importance and potential implications on their lives.
In other news, both the French and Italian Govts now make it mandatory to have jabs if you want to go out to play/enjoy the fruits of a civilised society.
C'mon BOJO, over to you...
Someone who actively promotes psuedo scientific nonsense, who has flouted the rules around Covid and has used his celebrity and platform to spout anti vax theories has finally found out these actions have consequences.
The Schadenfreude is delicious.
I hope they do this to Footballers to.
**** me if this is what cheers you up good luck.
Not me personally but it'll certainly put a smile on the faces of all those Australians who haven't been able to travel (sometimes even between states) whilst sports people and celebs have seemingly been able to come and go at their leisure.
In other news, both the French and Italian Govts now make it mandatory to have jabs if you want to go out to play/enjoy the fruits of a civilised society.
C’mon BOJO, over to you…
I definitely agree with this. People's individual choice to have the vaccine or not - fine but then other people should have the same choice to let you interact with them. Including Dickovich.
I hope they do this to Footballers to.
Except the myth about low vaccination rates among footballers is just that...A myth. The rate is the same as average for their age group.
Vaccines or not it's nice to see someone not manage to flout rules just because they're rich/famous
I'm sure the Australian politician who stepped in has never done anything of the sort himself
Except the myth about low vaccination rates among footballers is just that…A myth. The rate is the same as average for their age group
So low then.
Not that I'm a fan( of (china or the dopey tennis player) but I wonder if china will do the same for the *bugger there is no snow* games
I'm not sure Id want them to have my medical details.
maybe a few top sports players have some extra peds in them that won't mix with the jab.
Strong return of Serb there from the Australian…
👏
Jeez there are some haters on here. Lynch mob anyone?
Count me in, entitled d-wad acting like a moron is fair game for hating, the fact that tennis is involved handily adds to my loathing tbh.
Except the myth about low vaccination rates among footballers is just that…A myth. The rate is the same as average for their age group
So low then.
Yes, relatively low, but you singled out footballers for some reason?
Yes, relatively low, but you singled out footballers for some reason?
Alternate flavour of wealthy entitled moron perchance?
brian2
Free MemberJeez there are some haters on here. Lynch mob anyone?
I don't see much of a lynching, just a bit of satisfaction and relief that he's not going to be able to just sidestep the consequences of his own actions
(it's not just about that one person, it risked a big loss of support/compliance from the public. Kind of like letting prime ministers and their advisors off for breaking covid rules, the point isn't just to "get" them, it's to stop it setting the bad example and stop people from rightly saying "one rule for them and another for me"
Strong return of Serb there from the Australian…
Deserved more recognition.
Jokeyvich has been antivax for yonks.
Chicken, roost, etc.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/20/sports/tennis/djokovic-us-open.html
My issue here with vaccines is if someone is forcing me to put something in my body. That I don’t want. For me that’s unacceptable.
Whatevs, dude.
Their issue is not that they're being forced to do anything, because they're not - their issue is that their personsl decisions have consequences they don't like. In which case...
Whatevs, dude.
It baffles me that sports folk like Novax clearly put a lot of faith in science. Nutrition, recovery, treatment of injuries, etc. Then a vaccine comes along and suddenly they can't accept that it may be a good thing, developed by people who actually know what they are doing.
Anyway, the story definitely made me smile.
pondo
Full MemberTheir issue is not that they’re being forced to do anything, because they’re not – their issue is that their personsl decisions have consequences they don’t like.
Yup. And if you're a youngish, healthy person without underlying medical conditions there are fairly low immediate consequences for you if you don't get vaccinated- you're at low risk of serious illness compared to others. But there are probably greater consequences for others. Covid is pretty close to perfectly designed to create shitty responses to vaccine programs in many modern western humans, because it's not quite dangerous enough to the individual for it to be a no-brainer and too many people don't give much of a shit about anyone else.
So it's good- important- that people not be able to weasel their way out of the few consequences they do face.
Seems like it went down pretty much like this:
Ausie border police: eff off mate
Random sports personality: but I have a sick note from the tennis club, and an endorsement from a local council representitive
Ausie border police: Yeh, eff off mate
Novax is a whackjob into new age and pseudo-science stuff.
However, his mother and father have both spoken to the media in support of their son and have revealed the conditions he’s supposedly being kept in, with his dad even likening him to freedom fighter Spartacus.
Yeah... No. He's not Spartacus.
Novax is a whackjob into new age and pseudo-science stuff.
I'd not be surprised if it comes out in the future that he was PED'd up to the eyeballs as well, he just strikes me as that kind of loon.
There’s a clip of him talking about how you can clean dirty water with the power of positive thought, or some other whack job nonsense
Man is a total bell end, always came across as such, even more so now
Fruitcake is as fruitcake does…
“ In his book Serve to Win, Djokovic described how in 2010 he met with a nutritionist who asked him to hold a piece of bread in his left hand while he pressed down on his right arm. Djokovic claims he was much weaker while holding the bread, and cited this as evidence of gluten intolerance.”
From the BBC
PS, you need to be fully vaxxed to get into Serbia as a tourist…
But don't need to be vaxxed at all to get out...
His dad sounds like a full nut job too. Sounds like an element of Balkan stubbornness and a massive national chip on his shoulder. Sorry mate, it’s really not that complicated.
The player’s father told a press conference that he could not be defeated “by anyone, not even the Australian government”.
Djokovic was being “persecuted”, Srdjan Djokovic said. “They’re keeping him in captivity. They’re stomping all over him to stomp all over Serbia and the Serbian people. [Scott] Morrison [Australia’s prime minister] and his like have dared attack Novak to bring Serbia to its knees.”
These sort of things cheer me up. It's a similar vibe I get at LUBP, all types, all bikes having a good time.
quality wheelie action at 40:00
Yeah… No. He’s not Spartacus.
He's a very naughty boy. . .
Well this is getting interesting if the above is true. If his lawyers have lied in court papers, I'm thinking he may never be allowed back into Australia.
Isn’t he the first player to lose a grand slam after only missing 2 shots?
Isn’t he the first player to lose a grand slam after only missing 2 shots?
Bravo!👏
World tennis number one Novak Djokovic appears to have been photographed with young players the day after his lawyers said he tested positive for COVID-19
This is getting juicy deucey!