scruff9252Full Member
Oh, was what you said an ill judged attempt ah humour.You best be off to nonce island then ?
Wow!
And on that note I'm off.
What we have now, and not just this story, is trial by social media and the press with none of this investigation and corroborating of facts that used to be the hallmark of good journalism.
I don't think this is the case at all. We have credible people, like Kirsty Wark, raising complaint, many of whom said they followed the formal procedure and nothing was done. You then have Wallace slamming the self destruct button with his ridiculous middle class women of a certain age comment, which basically backed up the suggestion that he is classic 1880's man. Media have been quick to point out that there has not been any suggestion of illegality and, as of last night, he was still on the tele.
Given the publicly funded BBC's history of poor management of these types of issues amongst its 'talent' before, it is entirely understandable that there is pubic interest.
"it is entirely understandable that there is pubic interest."
Typo of the day!
I do remember when this happened and journalists were honourable people who investigated stories and allegations. They worked hard to seek out the evidence to support or refute those allegations. They would interview those making the allegations and those who were accused and publish well thought out news stories and programmes. What we have now, and not just this story, is trial by social media and the press with none of this investigation and corroborating of facts that used to be the hallmark of good journalism.
Eh, but thats exactly what happened here. BBC News spent a number of months investigating, corroborating and then believed they had a credible story. They presented their findings to Wallace for comment / rebuttal and he "stepped aside" then went on Social Media to defend himself and made the situation worse. Following which, other claims emerge that seem to reinforce the original allegations. If the claims are entirely fabricated and maleavolant he has the resources to sue for liabel.
They would interview those making the allegations and those who were accused and publish well thought out news stories and programmes. What we have now, and not just this story, is trial by social media and the press with none of this investigation and corroborating of facts that used to be the hallmark of good journalism.
What more do you actually want? They've listed all the allegations with the who, what, where and when. A sit down interview on Newsnight where they can cross-examine the female assistant who he allegedly grabbed her bum?
He'll do a Prince Andrew style car crash interview next....
Not trying to derail the conversation, but struck by the number of column inches dedicated to GW, versus the almost total non-mention of Conor Mcgregor’s (civil) conviction for a very serious sexual assault.
I was aware of Conor McGregor's case, and it did make headlines, however until that happened I'd never heard of him and wouldn't recognise him. I suspect I'm not unusual - in contrast there won't be many people who don't recognise Gregg Wallace's mug from the telly. The McGregor story also appeared to be finite - there was a certain amount of news about it, but it seemed like only one complainer, and her story was defined in the court room. In contrast once the Wallace story broke various "me too" stories broke along with people reawakening old stories. Many of those people were (minor) celebs themselves which makes the stories more marketable. Then of course McGregor presumably had legal advice saying "don't say anything, you will ruin any hope of an appeal" and Wallace had a little voice in his head saying, "your cheeky greengrocer personality can dig you out of this" and so he made it so much worse by going on Instagram to "defend" himself.
Not defending GW in any way, but nothing so far paints him as a “nonce”.
Careful, we've exploded the servers before arguing that definition!
He’ll do a Prince Andrew style car crash interview next….
i would bloody love that. The Andrew interview was one of my all time favourite tv moments. I’d love to see Kirsty Wark, Emily Matlis or Vic Derbyshire tearing him apart.
Anyone else notice how Torode often seems to have a bit of a runny nose?
I’m convinced that Torode and Wallace film mostly separately and so I tend to spend half of an episode distracted looking for shots that they both feature in. So in my feeble mind it’s plausible that Torode didn’t see most of it and yeah when he was there he woulda been preoccupied with his runny nose.
Re the BBC, they are in the fault line now. A letter from Nestle claiming about behaviour when filming Inside the Factory on thier premises has been surfaced although GW has not been named specifically.
Very tricky for Torode – he must be right up there as someone who just stood by and watched Gregg do his stuff, and he’s hardly in a junior role where worries over his career or of being believed could have been a factor.
You could say the same for Marcus, Monica and in the past Michel Roux when he did professionals. Either none of them saw anything or are part of the problem.
A letter from Nestle claiming about behaviour
****ing hell! If Nestle are complaining about you then you must be a right bastard.
Feels like this thread is running out of steam, which is probably a blessing, but contributors might like to read an old review of GW's culinary highpoints. Didn't go looking, it turned up on my bluesky feed.
https://metro.co.uk/2024/12/05/unearthed-review-gregg-wallaces-travesty-a-restaurant-22127231/
Daily Mash:
How to avoid allegations of inappropriate behaviour at your Christmas do, with Gregg Wallace
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I saw that Strictly clip for the first time yesterday, not an avid viewer, why wasn't he told to rein it in formally then?
You could see the professional was uncomfortable with his remarks,would have saved the BBC alot of angst.
Replacement announced.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cr56v10v6yro
Food critic Grace Dent is to host the next series of Celebrity MasterChef, after Gregg Wallace stepped back from presenting the show after allegations against him.
Author and podcaster Dent has appeared regularly as a guest on MasterChef, and last year was a contestant on MasterChef: Battle Of The Critics.
Good hire; perhaps they could also get Jay Rayner to replace John Torode?
Food critic Grace Dent is to host the next series of Celebrity MasterChef
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Better.
