[Closed] No kids & Having the snip

I don't know what age you are Houns but do you really need to do this?

Surely DIY is easy, couple of bricks and a stiff drink.

36 and yes.

If you go with Footflaps idea (and why not) mind you thumbs or you will not get the desired effect but half flattened nads and sore thumbsI had to convince them it was a good idea as i looked young back then and 3rd daughter on route!even the cats are female ... i look a lot older now 🙁

I had heard that you need some sort of counselling if you're under 40.

Poor fella

I'm just wondering if they'll refuse to refer me as I don't have (and don't chuffin' well want) kids

Hmm, I need counselling for many things but not for this 😆

Could you not just put it off for a few years? It's a huge decision and, in this life, one never knows what's around the corner.

I wouldn't do it. I nearly backed out of mine, despite having 2 kids. The guy says to me: "are you sure about this", and I'm "yeah, of course, the wife and I have discussed it and-"

"Wait a minute" he says. "Your wife? What does your wife have to do with it?"

"How do you mean?", I said.

"Well", he says, "she might not always be here, despite what you think. What if, for example, 2 years from now she dies, and you meet someone else younger. How would that person and you feel about your inability to have a child?"

It really sat me back, and meant I had to go and think about it for half an hour. In the end I went through with it. But with no kids- why?

I've known 20+ years that I don't want children. My mind is certainly made up. You're right that you don't know what's around the corner, and by having the snip I'm ruling out one nasty surprise

I'll get my shears...

I wouldn't progress any relationship with anyone that wants kids. If they did then they certainly wouldn't be the one for me (and I certainly not the one for them)

*unzips*

(You're fine with just a pair of nail scissors)

That's a pretty strongly-worded statement, why so anti?

cinnamon_girl - Member

Could you not just pull it off for a few years?

it would keep him occupied, certainly 😉

sorry CG my modification of your post was how I read it at first

You can get it done privately if the NHS are insistent on counselling etc. ~£400 at Marie Stopes for instance

yeah had it done about age 35, no questions from the doc, referred me to the local NHS hospital and all was straightforward. the wife and I always knew we didn't want kids so it wasn't a tough decision, certainly easier than my wife going through the whole sterilization procedure.

cinnamon_girl - Member
That's a pretty strongly-worded statement, why so anti?

Where shall I start?! Actually I won't, I'll leave it at that

Thank you Oz, just what I wanted to hear (thanks woody for mentioning that option too)

That's a pretty strongly-worded statement, why so anti?

Why so pro? Let the man hack his junk.

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we've no kids and have no plans to have any. It's a bit late for us anyway. Mrs DD not keen on me having the snip, although I'm happy to. I've left it up to her...
I understand the OP's thinking 100% regarding kids.

yup done it at 40, GP was fine, few questions and on the day surgeon asked again, never want/wanted kids, and not thought about it since really.

same boat houns, as im sure we discussed before, always knew i didnt want kids (now stuck with two steps (19/20) after getting married a couple of years back i decided to take the plunge and was generally made aware that the GP might be a little cautious, but that with the wifes backing, it wouldnt be a NO, I was the same age you are now.

eventual stumbling block was the wife - no idea why, but shes dead against it? bought shares in durex instead which is my pension plan.

Reassuring, again thanks

That's a pretty strongly-worded statement, why so anti?

Have you see children in the flesh? Horribly snotty little things making a noise and messing everything up.

Yeah, my wife and I don't want kids.
Not gone as far as getting the snip though - in our early 30s, so things ...could.. change.

When you tell people you don't want kids - have no interest in kids even, they just don't get it. Some people get really annoyed actually! Not like I'm asking them not to have any...?

The look on their faces when I tell them must be the same look on my face when they tell me they want kids

Kids are for skids ...

It would be like having a gun and only firing blanks, no danger no point!

Don't do it!

It'll not be an issue they'll ask you are you sure they do anyway, because they should after all it's a procedure and they do get people coming back for a reversal, then they'll let you choose and book a date.

houns - sorry, I wasn't prying. Kids obviously don't suit everybody but such finality?

i wish you good luck houns.

i also have no desire to have children either (am 39).

just never had the desire to be a father tbh.

Yeah, I don't want any little accidents

I had the snip in my 20's for various reasons.
My GP was fine and didn't have any reason not to let me have it done.....in fact he did it himself.

They say you can have it reversed though not a 100% success rate.

You could always bash a few out and keep them in the freezer anyway, just in case, any excuse for a tommy......

There's no reason why I'd want it reversed/keep a stash. Want the room in my freezer for chicken dippers

I had it done at 33, after my third was born.

If you are married/relationship then your GP will require her to agree.

Paid less than £100 at a local GP's.

But single and under 40, why would you?

If you are married/relationship then your GP will require her to agree.

Had it done in my 20's. No hassle, no problems and certainly no counselling.

Me 'I want the snip, I have 3 kids don't want any more'
Doc 'What if something happens'
Me 'They are kids not animals, if one of them dies I won't be replacing them and if me and the mrs split up I will be crippled by the CSA so won't be able to afford any more anyway'
Doc 'fair enough'

Job done inside 6 weeks and I even got to choose if I had a general or local anaesthetic. General FTW!!

Good luck.

Voluntarily having any sort of surgery let alone on my bits is something I can't comprehend.
It doesn't sound as if the OP is in a stable relationship so perhaps should be using precautions.
There's a lot worse things than babies out there.

Houns, just do it. Dunno why people say 'are you sure, what if, I can't understand why people don't want kids' etc etc. I know how you feel, I've even told my kids NOT to have kids ffs!
Fekin hate kids me.

[i]There's a lot worse things than babies out there.[/i]

NO THERE ISN'T.

I'm 34 and if I could have the snip without surgery, i'd do it at the drop of a hat 😀 Don't have kids, never plan to have them, same with the missus 😆

Never bought into the whole you must get married and have kids lark!

I'm 100% with Houns on this, 38 & I've known since 17 that I don't want kids - I have absolutely no paternal instinct/desire.

There's a lot of people who want & have kids who possibly shouldn't but people who don't want them definitely shouldn't.

Never needed permission from my ex at the time
GP "Why?"
Me "2 kids, dont want anymore and I;m sick of the mood swings of her on the pill"
GP "Good call 😉 "

Hmm. Given the amount of people wanting to get the snip....I'm thinking, group buy?

Never bought into the whole you must get married and have kids lark!

Yeah the human race would be really successful if everyone just gave up on the idea of having kids 😉

I know it's just a personal choice, I'm in my 20's and off to the docs next week to try and get it arranged I do have (what seems like) 30000000000 kids though

Want the room in my freezer for chicken dippers

It's a good question, and a tough one at that...
Your GP won't require the 'input' from the opposite partner in any situation, but of course will be raised in the consultation.
It's not 'usual' for a nullip male (no kids) not in a long term relationship to ask for it, but it's not beyond the scope of reasonable request...
You'll try to be convinced out of it, but ultimately if you want it, then you'll be allowed to go for it.

RE:

It'll not be an issue they'll ask you are you sure they do anyway, because they should after all it's a procedure and they do get people coming back for a reversal, then they'll let you choose and book a date.

Interestingly, the implant (for laydeez) is more effective than the snip...

DrP

You are in your 20's and you know you don't want kids...so surprised by this statement...

The only thing I was certain of in my 20's is I liked bikes, beer and shagging.

If I look back to my 20's and now, 39, I'm so different I wonder whether I should change my name!

I............actually "we" popped 3 of the little blighters out from 34 to 36 (twins involved)....

They drive me crazy sometimes, but you watch how they pick things up and remind you how bloody great it was to be a kid and you wouldn't change anything.

Seriously....putting on a rain hat is that difficult?

Interestingly, the implant (for laydeez) is more effective than the snip...

That's made me hyperventilate.

I didn't want kids at 36 either.

I do at 40.

Don't think I want kids right now (same age) but if Mrs 10 gets rich I may need an anchor baby.

[i]You are in your 20's and you know you don't want kids...so surprised by this statement...[/i]

Yet earlier, Houns says he's 36.
I wish people would stop being so surprised that some people don't want kids.

Guy I know had the snips after kid number 2. Number 3 due next month! So be aware, it's not 100%!

Yet earlier, Houns says he's 36.
I wish people would stop being so surprised that some people don't want kids

I was actually replying to someone else's post.

36 really isn't that long in the tooth. I would consider having a tattoo quite permanent even though laser treatment is quite good now days (so I hear)....unless there is some reversal treatment out there...having the snip is a pretty big decision.

If we are all to believe that we will live into out 80's and 90's perhaps further, we still have a long way in front of us even at 36.....hopefully.

I think 2orangey4crows has it. I was skiing with a 70 year old at the weekend, his daughter is 15, they get on great. I'm quite happy using condoms as needed but know some aren't.

The NHS won't reverse any vasectomies.

They used to, because I've gassed for reversals before, and I've never worked outside the Nash.

However, even the urologist doing the operating was pessimistic about the chances of a reversal being successful.

Kids are awesome. Having the snip is not. IMHO of course.

If you or anyone feel the polar opposite then so be it.

Both me and the wife didn't want kids. I got the snip at about 40. I've not regretted it once (I'm now 54).
Go for it, if it's what you want.

[i]Kids are awesome[/i]

No they aren't. (IMO) Even my (step)granddaughter gives me the heebie jeebies. Rather have a pet rat. & I've shot lots of rats.

I hate kids me, but I think I've said that before.

Go for it if you are sure.

A mate had 3 kids, divorced, remarried, snip reversal, 3 more kids, then another snip. I think he just has a weird fetish.

I hate kids me, but I think I've said that before.

You'd love mine* 😉

*this is what every dog owner tells me when they decide to cure me of my dislike of dogs.

Do it. I wish I did but it's too late for me. When you know, you know.

I'll have it done in the next year or so. I'm 30.

My wife and I have a 2 year old and another's brewing at the moment (due in October). We're both 100% sure that 2's our magic number! Don't want "a wee late one"

I'm loving all these people in their twenties and thirties saying that they're sure they don't want children. That may be true, but there is a very high chance that view will change in the next 10 years.

I have never wanted any kids, always found them foul, annoying, irritating. Had much better things to do with my life and didn't see any need to compromise any of that. Most of my friends were the same. Some much more so, to the extent that they nearly got the snip years ago.

At this point all of us bar two pairs have kids and love it. One of the ones that doesn't wishes they had tried much earlier.

To the 40+ year olds saying they don't want kids and never will... I can respect that decision and credit to you for making it and sticking to it. To the younger ones, just wait a bit.

There are people who don't want kids, and there are old people. I know very very few people in both those groups. Very few.

I've never wanted kids, right from the age of 18 when I'd made my mind up, I'm a few years older and still just as wise but never chosen to have the snip, I just can't be bothered with surgery.
There is no " what if one day? " rattling in my head, end of.

If the snips the way you want to manage this, then do it.

That may be true, but there is a very high chance that view will change in the next 10 years.

Why "very high"? What is that based on? If it's just the experience of you and your friends then it's pretty arrogant (and kind of insulting to be honest) to assume that everyone elses experience will mirror that of you and your friends.

For those of you who are of the mindset of "I can't believe you want to do this", imagine if someone tells me they want a child or a planning to have one, I have the exact "I can't believe you want to do this" thought

So what if your partner or future partner wants kids? The desire can suddenly kick in you know.

It can (and does) split couples up when one partner wants children and the other partner can produce the sperm (or eggs).

My partners desire to have kids was zip, negative, narda until she hit 80 then it was I WANT KIDS. She'd have been knocked up/probably with someone else by now if I had refused (well being cynical).

TBH I never wanted kids either. I'm kinda glad hora junior came along though. I still cant stand other peoples kids (and dont want another).

And 😆 @ Jaffa Cake!

If a partner wants kids then she's not right for me/I'm not right for her. We would have to split as if we stayed together and either chose to have them or not then one of us would be miserable for the rest of our lives

If a partner wants kids then she's not right for me/I'm not right for her. We would have to split as if we stayed together and either chose to have them or not then one of us would be miserable for the rest of our lives

You're on to a loser on here, people do find it exceptionally hard to believe that some people really just don't want kids.

You'll get the "you'll love it the second you see it" line next.

Yeah I'm surprised that one hasn't come out yet!

What if you fall for someone and one year in she does/you do?

BANG 'I wish I could turn back the clock'.

Just leave it as is- you've gone 36yrs without an accident.

gonefishin - Member
Why "very high"? What is that based on? If it's just the experience of you and your friends then it's pretty arrogant (and kind of insulting to be honest) to assume that everyone elses experience will mirror that of you and your friends.

Yes, I can see where you're coming from. It's also pretty naive (sp) and a little arrogant for people on the other hand to think they're special in not wanting kids. I'm not saying everyone else will be the same; I'm saying the vast majority will be.

Then in the very extreme chance of that ever happening (more chance of winning a euro million multi rollover jackpot without actually buying a ticket) then I'd want to adopt.

The world is far too over populated without adding to it

So, as a few still can't comprehend it, going to state it once again

I DO NOT, NOR WILL I EVER WANT CHILDREN

I DO NOT, NOR WILL I EVER WANT CHILDREN

I said the samething dude. I said the samething.

I had a really bad childhood which kinda really put me against the idea.

I don't want to be selfish etc but I'd never ever want to adopt someone elses genes/DNA.