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Think it's fair to say Reform put a line in the sand with the MPs comments and the Chairman's departure. Its gone down well with the faithful to say the least. 

 
Posted : 05/06/2025 8:54 pm
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personality cults dont have room for anyone else at the top, Ysuuf has been credited with overseeing reforms expansion, and his professionalism has put them in a much better place than ukip ever managed. so it some ways Farage can discard him happily as that job is now done.  

the ban the burqua comments were very popular with many of reforms core supporters.

im not sure ysufs exit will slow their momentum much, but Farage cant keep losing people who are halfway competent without some effect.

 
Posted : 05/06/2025 9:16 pm
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Posted by: Oakwood

It didn't come as much of a surprise, to be honest, but it seems to have done for Mr Yusuf. He's probably got a nice little nest egg for his period as window dressing for the racists, though, so sympathy is in short supply.

🤔 Yusuf is Reform's largest donor, he hasn't made any money out of being their chairman. He's given them at least £200k

 

 
Posted : 05/06/2025 9:56 pm
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Going so well. IMG_1906.jpeg 

 
Posted : 05/06/2025 10:14 pm
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Meanwhile, the plot thickens over at Reform...

BBC News - Zia Yusuf returning to Reform UK two days after quitting

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cwyv040rnqzo

 
Posted : 07/06/2025 9:06 pm
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He's coming back to me the public face of and head of DOGE ... Which seems to be a bit of a poisoned chalice!

 
Posted : 07/06/2025 9:51 pm
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This made me chuckle 

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Posted : 08/06/2025 7:02 pm
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I did find it ironic that he'd been the victim of racial abuse. 

Who'd have thought it . . . 

 
Posted : 09/06/2025 11:49 am
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I'm so confused I thought Zia was back - but now Dr David Bull ex presenter or Newsround is the chairman?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3v54d60y6vo

 
Posted : 10/06/2025 3:28 pm
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Zia is back but not as chairman. He is going to be heading Reform's "DOGE team".

 
Posted : 10/06/2025 6:23 pm
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Kent's new Reform led county council is in a bit of an ongoing mess. 

The latest revelation to hit the news today, a Reform councillor has been suspended due to an ongoing police investigation.

 

Can you imagine this lot if they ever do form a government? It'll be a bloody cluster fudge.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0eq3dxe28go

 

 
Posted : 11/06/2025 12:13 am
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I’m absolutely certain that Reform creating a department called DOGE is going to inspire millions up and down the country to throw aside their current political allegiances and vote for them. 🫢😏

 
Posted : 11/06/2025 1:15 am
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I’m absolutely certain that Reform creating a department called DOGE is going to inspire millions up and down the country to throw aside their current political allegiances and vote for them. 🫢😏

Yeah, despite the Tories and the LibDems successfully selling austerity to the British electorate in 2010 austerity has now become a dirty word in UK politics.

Reform publicising the fact that they are going to create a whole department commited to austerity makes no sense, especially at a time when they are riding high in the opinion polls.

 

 
Posted : 11/06/2025 9:40 am
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I don't think that most of the public see the connection between austerity and cost cutting imaginary government waste, the centrists certainly don't, it has been their main argument in supporting the Starmer Government that apparently the government is still hugely wasteful despite 15 years of tory austerity and in continuing announcing cost cutting while working out how afterwards.

The whole narrative is that government is "inherently wasteful" and cuts are needed no matter what. We need leaders to start challenging that narrative, reforms DOGE is just a couple of percent more than Starmers policies, they are really not at all different to any large degree.

 
Posted : 11/06/2025 9:51 am
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Just though I would post this to show how effecient or not they are at Kent CC.

Have canceled a lot of important meetings so very little can be done at the moment.

https://democracy.kent.gov.uk/mgCalendarMonthView.aspx?GL=1&bcr=1

 
Posted : 11/06/2025 10:43 am
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The whole narrative is that government is "inherently wasteful" and cuts are needed no matter what.

I would imagine it is.  I think all large corporations / organisations are wasteful due to their size and not really knowing exactly what people are doing all day long (how many people posting on this forum in the day time are 'working'?

I would however just accept that is how people work and given the chance to do less for same money they will.

 
Posted : 11/06/2025 11:43 am
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Just though I would post this to show how effecient or not they are at Kent CC.

Have canceled a lot of important meetings so very little can be done at the moment.

https://democracy.kent.gov.uk/mgCalendarMonthView.aspx?GL=1&bcr=1

Similar here in Derbyshire 

 

 
Posted : 11/06/2025 11:52 am
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I would however just accept that is how people work and given the chance to do less for same money they will.

I think in the case of large organisations it's largely a response to all the banal drivel tacked onto the "actual" work that pisses people off and makes them less productive.

 
Posted : 11/06/2025 12:38 pm
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I would imagine it is.

 

A lot of people "imagine" it is, thats the problem. Take the NHS for example, it is actually rather well regarded as a highly efficient organisation, far more efficient than most other countries health systems. I used to work in the NHS and my memory was actually working rather hard to deliver far better services than were actually realistically achievable within the budget. In fact I would say where I was working the biggest problem was burnout due to a general belief in its founding mission statement.

The problem with believing the myth of inefficiency is that every current political party talks about savings, it creates an atmosphere of never ending cuts, by rhetoric, intent  and policy.

Government should be about providing the services that are essential and working out how to deliver them, not just assuming that cutting the budget is good and hey if life just keeps getting worse well **** it, we cut the budget so the oligarchs can horde even more money.

 
Posted : 11/06/2025 1:11 pm
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A lot of people "imagine" it is, thats the problem. Take the NHS for example, it is actually rather well regarded as a highly efficient organisation, far more efficient than most other countries health systems. I used to work in the NHS and my memory was actually working rather hard to deliver far better services than were actually realistically achievable within the budget.

When it comes to NHS I don't have to imagine it.  I know people who work in NHS who do even less than I do.

People are not efficient and any excuse to not work they will find it, are you at 'work' now while spending time on this forum for example?

 
Posted : 11/06/2025 1:20 pm
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Posted by: kerley

are you at 'work' now while spending time on this forum for example?

I mean, it is lunch time, here at least. And who cares what time it is if the job gets done when its supposed to be done. 

 
Posted : 11/06/2025 1:36 pm
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And who cares what time it is if the job gets done when its supposed to be done. 

Let's say I can get my job done in 5 hours a day leaving the other 3 not really doing much.  And let's also say there are loads of people in that position in an organisation.  Is that an efficient organisation from a cost perspective?

 

 
Posted : 11/06/2025 2:12 pm
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Posted by: kerley

And who cares what time it is if the job gets done when its supposed to be done. 

Let's say I can get my job done in 5 hours a day leaving the other 3 not really doing much.  And let's also say there are loads of people in that position in an organisation.  Is that an efficient organisation from a cost perspective?

 

I absolutely agree, but I can assure you that is not just a public sector issue.

 

 
Posted : 11/06/2025 5:34 pm
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Posted by: kerley

When it comes to NHS I don't have to imagine it.  I know people who work in NHS who do even less than I do.

Its still a highly efficient organisation and I think real knowledge of folk who work or have worked in it rather trumps your opinion

 
Posted : 11/06/2025 6:00 pm
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