[Closed] Nexus 7, killed by lollipop, what next ?

Erk... I've got one of those and it hasn't updated yet.

Is it really automatic though - given the size of the downloads (500Mb IIRC) surely they're not going to force that on customers who may well have a limited monthly quota.

Have you tried clearing the cache - apparently that can help.
http://www.robschmuecker.com/fix-nexus-7-lag/

Yikes, mrs edlong's got one of those, doubtless set to automatic update if that was how it came out of the box. Will be following this thread with interest...

My 2nd gen Nexus popped up a notification, which presumably you can ignore until you are ready to do it.
Log onto free wifi somewhere and use theirs!

It wasnt fully automatic, in that it popped up as an available update on the top line, so I clicked it, as one would..... it took about half an hour to do the update and once switched back on it was, and remains slow as a slow thing. I did that cache thing too, but made chuff all difference.

Writing this on my updated 7 which seems no different than it was earlier in the week.

It messed my phone up too. A factory reset has sorted it. I lost a few settings and passwords but not much. I did have most things backed up on line and they all came back after the reset. Easy to try if you have nothing critical on there.

I have a 2013 model which is fine with Lollipop as far as I have seen so far. I suspect you will get a patch for problems with the 2012 version within a week or 2 though.

Mine's fine.

Not much help, I know. Factory reset would be my guess too; you've got everything backed up, right?

Backed up ....errrrr 😳

might just put it in drawer in hope that a patch comes soonish...

Got Lollipop on mine yesterday, a custom one via XDA not the OTA one. Working absolutely fine for me. All ROM updates will slow Android down and cane the battery initially as it self-optimises and searches your media.

Leave it going for a bit I'd say and see if it improves.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-7/development/rom-t2931064

I used the Cyanogenmod ROM before, way better than stock.

Wugfresh root toolkit may be able to roll it back to 4.44. A lot easier than not using a toolkit but you still need to know what you're doing

Updated mine a couple of nights ago and all is well (1st gen).

I've bobbed lollipop on my nexus 5 with no issues but am going to ignore the update on our nexus 7 for now, wait for 5.0.1. Our nexus 4 hasn't received the ota yet.

Edit: hmm, typing that out has triggered my ocd, maybe I'll be buying a 6 after all!

I've got the original 2012 Nexus 7 too and I am, so far, regretting the update. It is only just bearable now that I've turned off all animation using developer options but is sooooo slow.

My main bugbear is being forced to use the red envelope Gmail app; so bloated and over complicated - and I haven't worked out to force it to stop using 'priority inbox'...

I *might* backup all data and then try either a fresh install - or download 4.4.2 or whatever the latest, previous version was...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-30116319

Yes, saw that article, unfortunately after doing the upgrade.

Interestingly, using it right now and it seems a lot quicker than this am, although still not as fast as it was pre update

Not updated mine yet so cheers for the heads up.
As an aside,,, my screen has developed some annoying blue dots when it's showing blacks and dark colours on movies etc! Anyone else have this or is it just me?

Writing this on my 2012 nexus 7 running 5.0.

I initially regretted updating as it seemed to hang all the time.

Bit of googling led me to Wiping the cache and removing the google now launcher. Tablet now back to normal.

I do not know which solved it. But my opinion is that the google now launcher is a piece of junk.

Try uninstalling it. The old kit Kat launcher was still installed. You don't get a white app drawer but it seems to speed it up.

Anyone else found Skype is not playing with lollipop? Doesn't seem to want to connect any more.

How do you remove the Google now launcher?

Do you mean the thing where you drag up from the home button. Still find that fairly annoying...

Otherwise I don't mind lollipop so far. I find the notifications a bit over the top, but it's no faster/slower

Anyone else found Skype is not playing with lollipop? Doesn't seem to want to connect any more.

Yup. Working away this week and usually video call home. Freester Jr was most upset I couldn't do it this week. 🙁

petefromearth - Member
How do you remove the Google now launcher?

Install a different Launcher then use that? Nova Launcher is pretty good. Nokia's Z Launcher is also interestingly good.

Before you bin it, try a hard reset and get rid of all third party apps. In my experience, its your installed apps that aren't compatible with the new OS that causes the hang. Give it a few weeks or months and the apps will be updated to suit.

thanks for all the ideas will see how it updates over next few weeks, changing launchers and stuff is a bit beyond my simple ways !

Must admit that I cleared the cache last night and performance has been much improved. Turns out that I didn't even have Google Now launcher installed so must have been using the old KitKat version referred to above.

As an aside,,, my screen has developed some annoying blue dots when it's showing blacks and dark colours on movies etc! Anyone else have this or is it just me?

Yes, come to mention it... I notice it along the bottom of the screen whilst waiting for the three icons to appear.

Did everyone pro-actively install Lollipop?

Not been prompted to install it yet on my Nexus 7 (2013), wondering if I will get the chance to postpone the update when it does arrive.

Did everyone pro-actively install Lollipop?

I got the notification in the top window and followed the instructions.....wish I hadn't 😈

I got asked if I wanted the update about 10 mins after reading this thread! I delayed it! My 7 is still safe!

Any issues with the 4? Not been asked on that one yet!

I had too much confidence in my "Nexus is by Google so it will always be all right" mantra, and went right ahead with a Lollipop install. My N7 suffered pretty badly, limping along and hanging for a while, but no crashes.

Have just completed a factory reset/cache wipe and it's much better. I reinstalled apps from scratch rather than run a backup install. Seems to run as slickly as before which is a good thing.

Had Lollipop on my 2012 N7 for a few days after the OTA install and it's fine (I did do a factory reset straight after).

The Facebook app is laggy as hell though so a lot of issues for some could be down to non-optimised apps or something?

Hey, I'm in the BBC article! Famous!

Anyway, on that google thread there's a tip that worked for me: go into developer mode, limit background apps to 2 and turn off the 3 graphics options to do with scale. Tablet back to normal.

A day and a bit in and its slowly sorting itself. Maybe back at about 80% on all bar Facebook, which is still a bit laggy but miles better than yesterday

My n5 seems far from smooth with lolly..... Not ideal..... Not an improvement. Google, correct this please.

My N5 is flying along, very smooth. I did clear my cache out not so long back though as part of something else. Some oddities, Tasker didn't manage to auto silent mode it this evening for some reason, and I had to toggle the dialer notifications to get the screen to wake on an incoming call. All good apart from that.

I cleared my cache just the other week, and accidentally flushed app data and had to set the phone up as I like it again..... Sod t, I might factory reset, reload and rebuild.... Again. 😐

My N7 has been lagging since installing lollipop shall try some of the suggestions above...

its not that arduous to do a factory reset.
I managed it in <20mins at the end of a shonky ADSL line.

Cache wipe has to improved it a bit, reading about the forums, some seem to be suggesting it's simply due to the '12 model having a crappy memory controller. And lollipop asking a bit much from the hardware...

Not an expert so wouldn't know about such things but it sort of seems reasonable.

Oh and noddy question how do I disable all the animations, apparently some are claiming this helps, but I can't see the option to under settings...

Cookeaa you need to go into developer mode -in settings/about tablet tap the build number 7 times, then you'll find a new developer settings item appears in the main settings menu. The animation scale options are in there. Didn't make a massive difference to Mrs P's N7 though.

My 2012 model was basically unusable after the update. Cache reset didn't help. I'm typing this on it now though, after just doing a full factory reset - its a million times better now (probably better than before the upgrade).

Just do a full reset. It's restord all my apps and setting automatically anyway.

Anyway, on that google thread there's a tip that worked for me: go into developer mode, limit background apps to 2 and turn off the 3 graphics options to do with scale. Tablet back to normal.

My n7 has been slow for months, tried the cache thing but it didn't change anything. This has just instantly sped it up back to 'brand new' levels. 😀 Now to see if lollipop kills it, not come through on my 7 or 4 yet.

Just done the factory reset, it reinstalled all apps etc, took about 20 mins and now seems to be flying along !

cheers bails - just done that too after a factory reset and we are flying along too.
Nice one.

My 2013 Nexus 7 has just downloaded Android 5.0.1.

Is it safe now? Can I install?

^^ only 1 way to find out 🙂

I have ordered and am collecting a HUDL tomorrow and my Nexus has been retired as completely useless since the upgrade 👿

[url= http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/what-tablet-to-replace-nexus-7 ]story continued...[/url]

Can I have it?

Can I have it?

It's installing. It'll be fine. . . . hopefully. 😕

It's working, so far.

Any views on 'risk' of selling these ? Seem to be a lot on eBay from around £50-£75. Would need a techy person to unravel all the lollipop mess and I'd hate to sell and then get into a dispute if they couldn't sort it....

factory reset 'seems' to remove all trace of me....

But if buyer loads up their profile and it has any of the problems that I have had, do they have a comeback on me ? Much as I'd like to recoup some of the cost I really dont want an extended ebay/paypal dispute over it...

I'll let you know... sold mine yesterday on eBay for £50.

Mine's been fine since the update really. Am I just lucky?

Mine's been fine since the update really. Am I just lucky?

There does seem to be an issue with the Lollipop update on the original, first generation, 2012 Nexus 7.

If yours is fine then I suspect you have a later model?

househusband - Member
I'll let you know... sold mine yesterday on eBay for £50.

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yeah, thats what got me thinking !

There does seem to be an issue with the Lollipop update on the original, first generation, 2012 Nexus 7.

If yours is fine then I suspect you have a later model?

Mine is the newer one, so I guess that'll be why it's ok. Ha ha ha peasants 😆

Although my (1st gen) initially didnt like 5.0.0, then I cleared cache and tweaked settings and it improved, it has been slowly degrading since.

So I have just rolled it back to 4.4.4 which was stable and slick.

However, I was using Wug Fresh Nexus 7 root tool kit and somehow got within a gnat's tadger of bricking the N7. Just about managed to fluke a rom flash. I was going to recommend it as a route back to safe running, as Ive done rooting before (and even used the Wug Fresh toolkit as well before) but even though Im not an XDA god myself, I cant now recommend to anyone who doesnt have oodles of confidence to have a crack at it given how lucky I was not to brick it.

I may have been unlucky, but I got stuck with a locked bootloader and only just managed to unlock it. Others may be able to do the roll back safely enough.

If you want go, start with the You Tube video:

but you're on your own.

At least mine is back to top notch performance and ready for Stoner Jr to minecraft his butt off.

Thanks Stoner. That sounds way beyong my IT skills ! Anyway, I've bought a HUDL, which is great, just wondering whether it's worth trying to punt the Nexus as is..

Im pleased with my hudl2 as well (got it before the N7 5.0.0 fiasco). Just remember not to let the hudl do a system update to 5.0.0 until there's enough reports around of it going smoothly!

How is minecraft on android? Nem Jnr is getting a new tablet for Xmas ([url= http://www.ebuyer.com/629644-hisense-sero-8-tablet-pc-sero-8-e2281 ]Hisense Sero 8[/url] - I've installed apps on it ready for Xmas and it seems fantastic for the money) and I was thinking of splashing out the fiver for the minecraft app...

My 2012 N7 still hasn't got lollipop though I'm reckoning on getting a Hudl2 as a replacement based on Stoner's recommendation - after a positive experience getting a chromebook on his rec too 🙂

How is minecraft on android?

Like crack cocaine.

I have to ration the boys on it. Withdrawal is not a pretty sight either.
On the plus side their imagination goes into overdrive though.

Previously Jr had been using a one of my tablets with my login and so "my" bought copy of minecraft. His little brother will continue to do that, by Jr Sr now has his own google account so I briefly added my debit card and bought him his own copy of minecraft, then removed my card from his google wallet again.

Its annoying that I cant buy Play giftcards online, but in future I will let him buy his own gift cards in Morrisons with his pocket money so he can buy apps if he wants (still under supervision for now - he's only 8 this xmas)

He's well into it already on the 360 so I'm well aware how addictive it is for him (and me at times if I'm honest - you should see my underwater house 🙂 ).

Good point on the vouchers - hadn't considered how to actually pay - similar to you he has his own google account.

The 5.05.01 update downloaded onto my 2013 Nexus 7 but I ignored the installation about 5 times. I was away with work and couldn't be bothered trying to fix it, now the installation has disappeared from the notification and the whole patch can't be found. Is there a way I can force an OTA update or would I need to manually install it? Cheers

Is there a way I can force an OTA update or would I need to manually install it? Cheers

Can't you just go into the "about tablet" bit in settings and check for updates?

I've tried that DK however now it just tells me my software is upto date... The Nexus is pretty battered now so am considering a new one, I want to like the Nexus 9 but think the 7" size perfect (fnar fnar) off for a look at the Nvidia Shield on Saturday...

a look at the Nvidia Shield on Saturday...

I looked at that one a few weeks ago - it does look awesome! Ended up with Hudl2's bought with Tesco points; if it wasn't for the Tesco points I'd probably get that Shield.

If you do get one let us know what its like!

The Nexus is pretty battered now so am considering a new one,

Well... the buyer has left positive feedback so must (at this stage...) be happy with paying £50 for a barely working original spec Nexus rendered unusable by Lollipop!

(Assume he has the know-how to restore to an earlier version.)

Or he read the [url= http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/nexus-7-freezing-anyone-got-a-solution-please ]other thread[/url] and therefore knows how to fix it.

I notice that Google are going straight to 5.2 as the N7 update. My 2012 N7 has yet to receive an update but my N4 is running fine on 5.1

5.0.2. See the link in my previous post.

So this 5.0.2 has fixed the problems encountered by those of us with the original 2012 Nexus?

Anything other than an update downloaded and installed by the system would be beyond my skills; I did try and install 4.4.4 but gave up - I'm just not that technical.

Anyway - more than happy with the Hudl2!

5.0.2 came over the air at the weekend and fixed it. Works brilliantly again, if anything better than with 4.4

No idea how they got it so wrong.

yeah it's sorted mine out now, along with uninstalling facebook as that was a nightmare...

Works brilliantly again, if anything better than with 4.4

Arse! Kinda wish I'd kept mine now... more than happy with the Hudl2 though.

I'm still on 4.4.4.
Original battery was horrendous. Just spent thirty quid on a replacement from Amazon and it's still not lasting.. 👿

Mine (2012) says it's up to date... No system update available..

5.0.2 came down to my 2012 N7 overnight. Installed it earlier and far so good. Before the update it was getting a bit laggy. Seems to fly along now, hope the improvement lasts.

Not sure I like the black on white keyboard though 😐

Edit.... Just changed keyboard colour scheme.

How did you change the keyboard colour?

Just updated to 5.02. It works, but hasn't addressed the laggy problems. It's hardly an earth shattering development.

Settings > Language and input > Google Keyboard > Appearance and layouts > Theme

I changed from Material Light to Material Dark. Holo is the previous style keyboard.