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Just reserved a sprocker puppy. Pick it up on Sunday. Can any sprocker owners offer any advice on, well, everything really. As a puppy and adult.

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Cute! But shouldn't you have asked for advice before reserving? 😀


 
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I have absolutely nothing useful to add to this thread but yay! puppy pictures 🙂


 
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Food goes in the bitey end. You need to defecate in the place where it will be sleeping and really smear it in. Call it Dave.


 
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I'm amazed it sat still long enough for an in focus picture 🙂


 
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don't let it sit on the sofa


 
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That end is the front. It's name (as already pointed out) is Dave


 
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Your kids are lucky! New Kittens & Now a puppy!


 
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Just the usual things loddrik, get them vaccinated and then get them socialised.. the early weeks in a new home are the time when they learn about cars, people, kids, other dogs, cats, the hoover etc etc. The more they experience and file into the "not scary" category the less issues you'll have later.
My springer was a little biter as a pup, but thankfully that totally stopped once her puppy teeth fell out.
Get a crate, make it comfy and get puppy used to it as a safe house.. not somewhere to go as a punishment.

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What to feed it as a puppy? How much exercise for they need as a puppy and adult? How often do they need to be wormed?

What is the best type of collar and lead for a sprocker?


 
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Not gonna be a dull moment I'm sure as little Stampy (yes, the girls named her!!!) is 5 months old and crazy at the minute!!

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plus one for the cage.. get it dog will love its own safe place.. you shouldnt use it a prison.. give it 9 months and he ll grow out of it and find its own placde in your home.. NOT UPSTAIRS!! anywhere else is living space.. Molly loves the back of the sofa so she can see out of the window all the time.. she esp likes barking at the postman..


 
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Get a puppy training book. Best £5 I ever spent.

Not much exercise as a pup, limit walks to a few minutes a day at the start and slowly increase.

Socialise, socialise, socialise. We introduced ours to everything. Nosy trains, bikes. Stopped chaps with beards in the street to say hello just to get it used to strangers.

Reward training. When ever it's eating/playing say its name. Will link food/fun to it's name and always come a running. Lots of fuss/rewards when it does it's business outside (or on paper in the house).

We were lucky, lab/springer cross so would do anything for food so very easy to train. Taught it paw, role over, lay down, stay etc all in a week.

Don't forget about defecating in the corner. Really smear it up the walls, go on, do it now less you forget.

You have chosen the wrong name.


 
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here you go loddrik, these will help you loads
https://www.dogstrust.org.uk/help-advice/training-videos/

and for worms and fleas try the Natural (no harmful chemical) way of Diatomaceous earth! put some in his/her foods to get rid of worms and put it on his/her fur for getting rid of fleas (amazingly quickly too)
enjoy yer new friend 🙂


 
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Beautiful, totally beautiful.

I is jellus. 😐

I say that because I had two Springers a few years ago, such a beautiful creature.

As said, socialise the Puppy, again a cage for it to relax in. Minimal walks early on, never let it go upstairs.

Mine came from a Farm, the Farmer used them for seek and fetch for Hunting so both had that in their DNA. I was told and trained them to continue doing what the Dog was supposed to do and both just adored seeking and fetching.

Bloody lovely, loving animals.

I is seriously jelus.


 
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Not all Spaniels are crackers; we've two and the Springer is so laid back he's horizontal, and never barks unless he sees fur-based quarry.

The Cocker on the overhand isn't, he chases feather-based quarry.


 
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why never upstairs. i never let the dog on the beds but my dog liked to sleep on the landing, never had a problem


 
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cute! Our Cocker loved clicker training as a pup (any reward based training is good). She loved rolling in the smelliest stuff she could find e.g. hedgehog poo and rotting salmon. She loved stealing socks and gloves. She was happy on walks in filthy weather, but always found the warmest, comfiest place in the house to settle down. She didn't fetch balls (often), or swim (ever).
Just remember, they have been bred to work with a just bit of human input (unlike some working dogs) so they can be quite independently minded - stubborn even.
Also, your home, your rules. Some folks allow their dogs to sleep next to them on the bed without a problem, that's not how we do it though.


 
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We used one of these when training our spaniels: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Decoy-Dog-Training-Dummy-Canvas/dp/B00FSD1J68
They are dogs that like fetching things and being rewarded for bringing them back. Cute looking pup BTW. Would love another but small child and another coming in the next couple of weeks mean we'll have to wait a bit 🙁


 
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Ace pup. An excuse for a nell update

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Taken during lunch today.

Be prepared to have your house chewed. We have got a sacrificial rug in our living room (8 quid at aldi) so that our decent one didn't get trashed.

Also very very time consuming and hard work. Much easier with the three rescues we have had before. But feels good when hard work starts to show.

All advice above is good.

Nell for sit and wait really quickly. Will come for treats and recall is good. But just started noticing her getting more interested in smells and not being as fast to respond every time.

She is now 14 weeks.

Have fun.

Another with her big brothers -

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Ziggy the Working Cocker is now 17 weeks, and we have had him from 8 weeks. What a little star he is. Very trainable, fully house trained, and great with the kids.

Things I have learnt:

Spaniels need mental stimulation as well as physical.
As puppy's, they are happy to run all day, but you should restrict them to protect their joints when older.
Get them off the lead ASAP. Recall comes naturally when young - keep at it to make it really solid or it can lapse.
They will eat ANTHING. So far I have taken from him on walks: tampons, nails, plastic bags, beer bottle tops.
He will ADORE you.
Don't bother trying to keep him off the sofa - I wasted 2 weeks of my life trying. He us much calmer in the evenings now we just let him nestle with us.


 
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[b]be warned[/b]

I have (kind of) a Sprocker. [b]THEY ARE MENTAL[/b] when young they will [b]CHEW EVERYTHING[/b], get the training going now, you will not tire a Sprocker by physical activity alone, you need to mentally stimulate the things. Try and get into an agility class. They are clever dogs, but will develop (i promise you this) selective hearing syndrome. They go through phases of obedience as they mature, just accept it, but be stern.

[b]THEY LOVE MUD[/b]

[b]THEY ARE BAT SHIT CRAZY[/b]

good fun though.. 😆


 
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supersessions9-2

how have you got un-chewed lego in your house?


 
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Please stop posting such gorgeous pics.

Thanks

😐


 
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Yep....they have relentless energy, you're going to be busy!

My advice is take the training seriously and you'll be rewarded for the rest of its life. Also...remember its a dog. To get the best out of these dogs you have to treat them like one. (in the nicest possible way of course!)


 
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Make the most of them in the puppy stage as it goes in a flash!

Mine is now 6 months old has just had her first season and is settling down brilliantly!

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She loves to cuddle upto her Dad, he is not bothered by her in the slightest, (until she came into season that was)!

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They do get on well with the cats if introduced at a young age, my big old cat loves going for walks as a pack.

She also isn't as quite into mud as her Dad!

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They spent the day running round the field together and look who stayed cleaner!


 
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Very tempted to get a sprocker in the next few months. My parents have a springer-collie and he seems to have a bit of the 'springer rage' problem - he'll flip between being super-soppy and affectionate to growling and grumpy, sometimes all at once. Also can't be let off the lead very often because he vanishes off hunting - there don't have to be any animals in sight, he'll go and find them - and can't be motivated to come back with food/treats/toys/shouting/anything - it's like a red mist descends and he can't hear anything else, until he knackers himself out.
I haven't heard of sprockers having any of these issues. Perhaps hadn't realised they're as much work as some of these comments suggest, however.


 
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Spaniel rage can happen, and mainly in darker coloured dogs, (black is the worst.)

My new bitch is a Spangle, 1/2 pedigree English springer (my dog) and a half springer, half Beagle!

Seems so far to have made for a very stable mix that isn't too nutty!


 
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To expand a little on my two (from my post above) Both were Brothers, came from the same litter at the same time. I did absolutely no research at the time into what the Springers would be like but my Vet (who looked after my Horses) recommended them to me as I had both home/lifestyle and willingness to own a Dog.
So I went up to see the Farmer (as mentioned) and 7 weeks later took both home with me in the back of the car.
During Puppy stage it was clear one of them was more alert than the other, so after naming them Banger and Mash it turned out Banger was the more alert and bouncy one, Mash was calmer and very relaxed.
After training it was clear to me that Banger needed to work, he was always into something and became restless quite early on, Mash was happy and not bothered by his bouncing Brother.
9mths into ownership and 5 moths into structured Farmer training (he bread them for Hunting, as mentioned) and all was working out well. Out family life revolved around me running with them in the Woods across the road for best part of an hour then they'd be alone for 3 hours in an adjacent outbuilding attached to my home that had the washing machine/tumble dryer/fridge/freezer and was carpeted and had two cages for the Dogs.
Lunchtime meant an hour gentle pootle in the woods and a feed by my then Fiance' and when I came home I'd take them back into the woods with them running alongside me on my MTB.
Life couldn't have been more perfect.
2 years in and Banger became so restless that he chewed the sofa/curtains/carpet/banister rail/shoes/clothing/towels you name it he'd chew it. Mashie on the other hand was happy to sit in front of the Aga keeping warm. Banger became so restless that I had to take him back tot he Farmer for some pretty structure re training and I was told not to go back for 6weeks whilst this went on. Mashie stayed with me, wasn't bothered by his brothers disappearance in the slightest. 6weeks later and I collected Banger form my mate the Farmer and home we went. For about 6mths all was fine, both happy Dogs. Then Banger became restless again, despite my attention I gave him he just seemed happier in a pack with other Springers Hunting, Farmer said this may happen and true enough it did. Banger did a couple of things, he'd run around the garden in loops, if the back door was open he'd make the loop from out in the garden into the house and back out again, just running flat-out and creating havoc.. He'd then exhaust himself and crash in front of the fire panting like mad and then fall asleep. Still unsure if this behavour was a symptom or if he actually wanted to do it..
So heartbreaking and another 9mths later we eventually took him back to Mr Farmer and boy did Banger like it. Fitted right back in, happier than I'd ever seen him and Farmer happier to have him back and working. Mashie stayed with me, we made a lot of effort to go see Banger and got quite into our visits Hunting and the like and you know what, whilst he did recognise me and pretty sure he loved me for it he was happier where he was. Heartbreaking as it was to leave him there it was really what he wanted and over time I got used to having Mashie on his own.
Well a couple of years later I lost Mashie to a Truck/wall interface behind our house (very steep hill, truck lost his breaking and crashed into the wall, Mash had jumped the woods boundary into the road and hey.. was in the wrong place at the wrong time... and Mashie came off the worst.

Devastated we both were, tragic ending to Mashie, but happy to have given Banger a home he was much happier in. Farmer said he'd settled perfectly, gone were the symptums and madness and being in a pack with 11 other Springers he and we enjoyed that for him.

Things moved on in our lives and I've never had the guts to get another Springer, not that I don't know what/how to look after them but I always have a lump in my throat when at least 4 times a year I think about getting another. When I do, and I surely will, I'll have one only and it'll be either a working Cocker ow Sussex or a water Spaniel. I've done a lot of research since having my two so I know the breads well enough..

Just got to pick up the courage to get one.. 😐 😀 😐


 
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Help!!!! The wife and kids want to call it squid...


 
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Help!!!! The wife and kids want to call it squid...

It's important that the dog knows you're the alpha male. This looks like a good opportunity.


 
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Nope. Looks like a Jarvis to me.

Jarvis Sprocker


 
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I'd go with Zippy: Short, cute, and suits the livelier nature of the pooch. Plus it can be shortened/adapted well i.e. zip, zipster, zippedy-doo-dah etc.


 
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Good name. I like it. Well probably suit him.

We have been really trying to make sure we take the kids toys off nell straight away and swap them for her own toys, and then praising. Bloody hard work.

Also keeping her off the sofa is a full time job.

Spoke to the trainer at puppy class she is starting at tomorrow and she said we should be keeping her on the lead all the time. Problem is that I think we'll drive her stir crazy and we will not be practising recall. Seems odd to me. Any opinions?

Another more typical pic from today's lunch time play

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Our Sprocker is now 11 months old, first ever dog and he's totally awesome. Currently curled up next to me asleep. I think we have bee relatively lucky. No damage to the house, only my lawn! Had one scare and that was Wednesday's walk when he took off and I found him a mile away sat with some other dogs. You'll absolutely love a sprocker, such characters!


 
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Give up on the sofa rule - made our life much more pleasant.


 
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Sorry for another dog-related post...picking our new sprocker up in just over 3 weeks, can't wait.

Just wondering if anyone can recommend a puppy book/website etc? Not sure if it's worth reading up on the latest dog psychology, training advice etc or just getting on with it. And did anyone bother with puppy classes and were they worthwhile?


 
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Well, the new pup is here and settling in well. I'd forgotten how much work a puppy is - we are knackered.
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On our third working cocker. If you'd like my single piece of grown up advice: [url= http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/like/151678970333?limghlpsr=true&hlpv=2&ops=true&viphx=1&hlpht=true&lpid=108&chn=ps&device=c&rlsatarget=&adtype=pla&crdt=0&ff3=1&ff11=ICEP3.0.0-L&ff12=67&ff13=80&ff14=108&ff19=0 ]buy a couple of these[/url] and train it to come to the whistle ASAP (within 3 months of getting him/her) - makes you're life so much easier.


 
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On our third working cocker. If you'd like my single piece of grown up advice: buy a couple of these and train it to come to the whistle ASAP (within 3 months of getting him/her) - makes you're life so much easier.

Thanks for the advice - done.


 
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Ask your vet if they run puppy parties , ours charge about £10.00 for 3 x 1 hr sessions . You get good advice , early socialising and more than a tenners worth of goodies plus your pup is given a good vheck over by the vet .
We did the puppy training with all ours over the years and again graat for socialising and a good foundation for basic training .
Great looking pup 😀


 
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