pretty sure those nice one direction boys smoke, best get on to the fuzz...
If you must live in Marple...
it affects the taste of food
No shit. I believe it's even been known for stoners to attack takeaway pizzas. Can you imagine...
When I had my flat I never smoked (cigarettes) inside, always in the garden, just to avoid making it reek of fags - I have to say, I lived there for two years, and not until I saw this thread did I give any thought whatsoever to secondary smoke stinking out the flat above or houses next door. No-one ever said anything - I'd have been mortified if they had, and would had smoked further from the house.
Mind you, I'm very reasonable. 🙂
stole this from another forum
get the council to investigate under section 79 of the environmental protection act 1990 as they have a. legal duty of care to investigate.
[url= http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1990/43/section/79 ]here[/url]
Section 79(b) ‘smoke emitted from premises so as to be prejudicial to health or a nuisance’ is the relevant section. In this section smoke also includes the smell of smoke [Griffiths v Pembrokeshire County Council [2000] 18 LS Gaz R 36, DC per Kennedy LJ, VP].
you can also bring legal action yourself under section 83 of the act
or just phone the police on them. if it was me I would have no problem doing it as if it was affecting me. if it wasn't affecting me I wouldn't give a ****
Mikey 74, then if they ignore you, get a lawn sprinkler, set up so that the water drifts over the fence to their garden when the smoke drifts over the fence to your garden.
(A bit disappointed as originally I thought that the title was "neighbours smoking hot" and had hoped to see piccys :D)
IMO, you have two options - talk to them or report them. But not a chat and then report.
You can see from a few of the posts above just how arsey some folk can get if there's a suggestion that someone should be a bit more considerate with their smoking habits.
So there's every chance that talking to them will draw at least a similar level of response, if not worse, making reporting a more difficult future experience in the neighbourhood.
Make your choice, but if you are reporting them then don't give warning or let them know it's you. Nothing to gain, too much risk.
Nuke them from orbit, it's the only way to be sure.
(Or just have a quiet word about the smell getting in your house, which most people would agree is not on)
Sod all of this liberal crap, you want to be a borderline drug addict then toddle off somewhere else and dont make other peoples lives a misery doing it.I have nothing at all against people smoking occasionally and socially that dont inflict others with it on a constant basis, i can see why you are annoyed.
Call the police, it was illegal last time i checked...
I assume that you lot on the moral high ground will be reporting the dubious tax avoidance measures on the other thread, or is it none of your business?
Definitely have a quiet word. I like to think I'm very consciencous with my smoking, making sure away from any open windows and other people etc. as I understand it's simply not pleasant for it to be unavoidable, these people probably just don't realise that. Tell them it'd be the same if they were out smoking B&H all day.
Call the police, it was illegal last time i checked...
So is riding on footpaths....
You could start spraying cans of stella over the fence, after all it's only drinking. What's the harm in it. Live and let live guys.
[i]I assume that you lot on the moral high ground will be reporting the dubious tax avoidance measures on the other thread, or is it none of your business?[/i]
How is it the ****ing [i]moral high ground[/i]?
Did you actually read (and comprehend) this bit?
[b]She has a one and three year old and because there are so many of them smoking it fills most of our gardens and comes up through the windows.[/b]
Would you like it if you couldn't open your windows in the summer because of the stink of smoke? I certainly wouldn't. I have no opinion either way on the morality of smoking weed, but stinking people out with it needs sorting.
From poah's link it looks like the council are the best port of call.
Or find some way to make the stoners paranoia kick into action. Frighten the bastards out.
if you know that the dealer comes round every friday - this is something the police would be interested in, supply is a different matter to use
what most folk think is, we called the police and they did nowt - this usually isn't true, they will probably have an operation ongoing where they are tracking all the low-level dealers that all buy from one criminal organisation (like a rented house full of plants) that are run by a gang of committed criminals who are probably manufacturing or moving stuff a lot stronger than weed
You've been watching The Wire, haven't you? 😉
tracking all the low-level dealers that all buy from one criminal organisation (like a rented house full of plants) that are run by a gang of committed criminals who are probably manufacturing or moving stuff a lot stronger than weed
Not sure you understand how the drug supply chain works. You have to go quite a way up the tree to find any 'committed criminals'. The low level dealers buy off other low level dealers who are ever so slightly higher up the tree. At least that was the case 15 years ago, I guess it might have changed these days.
Calm down Dez, I was reefering (see what i did there?) to the whole "Well, it's illegal so you've a moral obligation to report it" crew.
If you read, and comprehended my previous post, I suggested cake and a friendly word 😉
Step outside, take a few deep breathes..........aaaannnnddddd relax!
What this all boils down to is the fact that you don't like how your neighbours are living their lives. Which really is tough luck if you won't speak to them or grass them up.
Cake...now there is a god idea. Get them to bake brownies instead.
Better for their lungs and no smoke. 🙂
kill every one within a mile or so,there probly poor or in some way lower class,its really the only way, please please think of the children 😯
I read somewhere that Jimmy Saville and Rolf Harris started off just smoking weed. Just think, If someone would have reported them back when that all started, maybe they wouldn't have made all those shit TV programmes?
Do the right thing.
one of my neighbours cooks bacon with the window open, unbelieveable really, they know damn well that my missus is pescatarian.
What this all boils down to is the fact that you don't like how your neighbours are living their lives.
Part of this is right but they are living their lives inside other people's houses. The comparison I used before is the same, if I poured beer through your windows what would you think.
[i]Calm down Dez[/i]
Ok, I'll have a smoke.
it fills most of our gardens and comes up through the windows.
That just isn't on, how [s]the potheads on here[/s] anyone can think that's acceptable is below my paygrade 🙂
The comparison I used before is the same, if I poured beer through your windows what would you think.
I'm come and chat to you about it and not complain on the internet....like I caveated my original statement with but you chose not to quote.
Also, are we sure there isn't any embellishment with regards to how much is floating in? They must really be going at it in open areas to fill at least two neighbouring houses with smoke.
Am I correct in thinking this isn't the first 'neighbour' thread the OP has created?
Edit: I am correct:
http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/just-had-row-with-next-door-neighbour
So, is this the same neighbour or just the same common denominator?
As above if your are sure the smoke is getting in through your house and not through open windows then there is a problem with your property not being properly sealed.
You hear of stories of people living next to a cannabis farm and not knowing about it, therefore there must be a problem with ventilation between yours and the smokers properties.
If they smoke enough of it, you should become immune to the smell. 😉
if you do not smoke and you have a sense of smell and someone smokes super strength skunk [ there may be a clue in the name as to the pungency of said smoking material] it is highly likely that neighbours will indeed be able to smell it
A neighbour [ teenage kid] used to smoke [ heavily] in their bedroom and you could smell that in mine FWIW.
You hear of stories of people living next to a cannabis farm and not knowing about it
they tend to grow in airtight rooms and then vent it through the roof after passing it through filters [ or recycling it] so it does not smell...its almost as if they do not want to draw attention to themselves and go to great lengths to make sure the smell does not escape
Ex-smoker and stoner and 100% with the OP - it's fricking annoying
Use a bit of quid pro quo, 'we don't mind you guys having a smoke but it is starting to make our house smell' the merest hint of insinuated threat woven into a reasonable request to create neighbourly harmony. Carrot and stick in one.
Without the illegal bit we had a young couple move in next door who smoked outside and yes it drifted in through our windows. SPoke to them, they happily agreed to smoke down the other end of the garden. If it's peeing it down we're unlikely to have our windows open and they smke nearer the house, so all's good. Most people are reasonalbe most of the time.
Step outside, take a few deep breathes..........aaaannnnddddd space outtttt!
If its against the law then you bloody well have a moral obligation to report them,
It's only a moral obligation if the law is moral.
dazh - MemberCall the police, it was illegal last time i checked...
So is riding on footpaths....
WRONG! Unless you're talking about council maintained footpaths where cycling is specifically prohibited.
Cycling on a normal unadopted footpath is generally a civil offence and not illegal as such, you just have no permission to be there riding a bike.
its almost as if they do not want to draw attention to themselves and go to great lengths to make sure the smell does not escape
Or if you're the dealer/grower who lives two doors down from me you don't bother and you carry on brazenly growing even though all the neighbours can smell it and you've been busted twice!
WRONG! Unless you're talking about council maintained footpaths where cycling is specifically prohibited.
I stand corrected. OP, grass him up! (no don't, really. It's a shitty thing to do)
I love STW!!!
Last time I checked, it was perfectly legal to 'smoke' any number of illegal narcs. Its the possession, grow, distribute or sell etc is the illegal part!!!
Talk to them, they may not be aware.
It was only after the birth of my neighbours little girl that we found out if we sparked up in the front room they could smell it in theirs.
it was perfectly legal to 'smoke' any number of illegal narcs.
Good luck with that defence in a court of law.
Last time I checked, it was perfectly legal to 'smoke' any number of illegal narcs. Its the possession, grow, distribute or sell etc is the illegal part!!!
Good luck smoking it without possessing it!
Actually.. that's what Bunnyhop is doing isn't it?
There is no defence as there is no crime Junkyard!!!!
Molgrips, yes I'll admit it would be tricky.....but still entirely feasable.
Smokers homes regularly burn to the ground,just saying like.
[url= http://www.theweedblog.com/marijuana-smoking-not-associated-with-increased-risk-of-lung-cancer/ ]Marijuana Smoking Not Associated With Increased Risk Of Lung Cancer[/url]
Can't somebody invent an e-cigarette that allows you to electronically smoke dope . Problem solved .
[quote=almightydutch said]There is no defence as there is no crime Junkyard!!!!
Molgrips, yes I'll admit it would be tricky.....but still entirely feasable.
How could you not be guilty of possession if you were caught smoking the stuff ?
So we have ...
Tough, live with it and denounce them to the authorities
The answer lies somewhere between those two extremes but you'll need to find out what their feeling is about it before figuring out which end of the spectrum you need to go.
Can't somebody invent an e-cigarette that allows you to electronically smoke dope . Problem solved .
The Magic Flight Launch Box has been around for years.
How could you not be guilty of possession if you were caught smoking the stuff ?
Because you're in the process of de-possessing it? 😉
I want to contribute something useful, but yeah, like, maybe tomorrow?
Have you thought of retaliating? Maybe by wafting over the very worst smell in the world?
You know the one. The vile, sickly sweet one that Subway waft out of their door on to the pavement. No-one could take that for more than an hour. No matter how stoned they were!
Nah the worst is that sickly sweet smell 'Lush' pump out of their artisan soap shops.
Besides the smell do they drive? If they are smoking this stuff all the time and driving under the influence, they pose a hazard to young children / anyone playing in the street.
Now I'm aware rubbish driving isn't exclusive of drinks / drugs, but anything that can be done to reduce this is surely a good thing?
I wish my neighbour was smoking, current ones a complete minger.
[quote=binners dijo]Have you thought of retaliating? Maybe by wafting over the very worst smell in the world?
You know the one. The vile, sickly sweet one that Subway waft out of their door on to the pavement. No-one could take that for more than an hour. No matter how stoned they were!
Bring me Mild. Pints and Pints and Pints of it. We'll see how they cope with that...
allthepies - Member
almightydutch said » There is no defence as there is no crime Junkyard!!!!
Molgrips, yes I'll admit it would be tricky.....but still entirely feasable.How could you not be guilty of possession if you were caught smoking the stuff ?
Quantity and timescales.
The quantity placed inside of a spliff is generally regarded as way below the limit required for prosecution.
Timescales....unless you are a moron and spark up in front of a copper, then the product has been consumed which means there would only be ash as evidence.
In both cases the CPS look at the case and laugh at whoever brought it to their attention. Wasting Police and CPS time!!!
Sorry not read all the post.
But how about buying them some baking tins, cake mix and icing sugar .
EVERYONE loves cake
Especially hash cakes
Might be a good way of letting them know they are stinking the place out.
[quote=almightydutch said]
Quantity and timescales.
The quantity placed inside of a spliff is generally regarded as way below the limit required for prosecution.
Timescales....unless you are a moron and spark up in front of a copper, then the product has been consumed which means there would only be ash as evidence.
In both cases the CPS look at the case and laugh at whoever brought it to their attention. Wasting Police and CPS time!!!
So when you said "perfectly legal" you meant "below the amount where the police can be arsed" 🙂
P.S You're not the Badger tubeless bloke are you ? 😆
Maybe the police could install "average stoned cameras" or something to see if they're over the can be arsed amount over the course of a week
Yeah, strong weed does stink. But I suspect the OP is [i]slightly[/i] exaggerating. And as for the bit about 'the dealer coming round every Friday'. [i]Really?[/i] How do you know he's a dealer? Is this him?
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Not keen on grassing people up but if affecting my life then would consider it as last resort - probably along the lines of asking the council for advice about what help dealing with the drug users next door rather than explicitly grassing. Then the next setp is up to the council - who might tell me to tell the police I suppose.
Bunnyhop - Memberthere are so many of them smoking it fills most of our gardens and comes up through the windows.
Are they throwing bricks of it into a chiminea?
Is this him?
He's 5-0, look at his shoes!
Paint your car just like police car and park it out the front
You may want to get a police uniform too for added effect
The paranoia they'll experience will be incredible - they'll stop or move out very quickly!!
He's 5-0, look at his shoes!
😆
allthepies - Member
So when you said "perfectly legal" you meant "below the amount where the police can be arsed"P.S You're not the Badger tubeless bloke are you ?
No I mean its perfectly legal. The law states that there must be sufficient quantity.....which a spliff does not contain!! (well some might well do but rather you than me smoke them regular)
No idea on badger ref
No idea on badger ref
🙂
You don't wanna be coming out with that sort of crazy talk around these parts...
Did someone say badger?
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Yeah sorry the dutch bloke shares the same name as Mr Badger.
thestabiliser - Member"Is this him?"
He's 5-0, look at his shoes!
Only one way to find out, Snoop has a full proof (NSFW) method:
The law states that there must be sufficient quantity.
Perhaps the law has changed in the past few years, i was prosecuted for having a roach in my ashtray back in 1994 (£450 fine) and again in 1998 for having a pre-rolled joint in my pocket (£400 fine) this was in Dumfries & Galloway though, the procurator fiscal and police in this area are a bit backwards and jump on any chance to exercise their powers.
This thread has really went off topic, to the original problem echo others I'd just have a friendly (if that's possible) word with them saying the smell is very obvious.
.The law states that there must be sufficient quantity
No it may have this as a practical measure but they will just caution you. Could you cite the law please - did the he Big Lebowski DUDE tell you 😉
There is no allowed amount of illegal drugs you can have.
At an extremely low level of a wee hint in an otherwise empty bag they may let you go but they still could if they wanted to.
What ths thread has demonstrated to me is one should never get legal advice from a stoner 😛
He's 5-0, look at his shoes!
😀
Not keen on grassing people up but if affecting my life then would consider it as last resort - probably along the lines of asking the council for advice about what help dealing with the drug users next door rather than explicitly grassing
I think that's unfair and misleading. They're bound to think Heroin/Crackhouse when you put it like that. Mind you, I guess the OP would prefer that as there'd be less of a smell.
What ths thread has demonstrated to me is one should never get legal advice from a stoner
If you want a list of the top 5 cover versions of all time, that's been contemplated for years though, you know where to go
No I mean its perfectly legal. The law states that there must be sufficient quantity.....which a spliff does not contain!! (well some might well do but rather you than me smoke them regular)
As others have said, total bullshit.
A mate got a arrested, night in cells + a caution for having a tiny blim of resin in a cigarette packet and another got a cavity search after being caught with a spliff as in his own words "he was treating everywhere like Amsterdam, as what can they do?", but he was being gobby and a Doctor was already on site when he was arrested.
SO what is the OP's problem?
Is it the illegal drug use?
Is it the extremely low level of exposure to potential carcinogenic substance?
Or is it just the smell?
Only could someone on STW think that this poses some kind of real health risk!
No I mean its perfectly legal. The law states that there must be sufficient quantity.....which a spliff does not contain!! (well some might well do but rather you than me smoke them regular)
I doubt this.
A friend got pulled recently at a train station. A little sniffer dog started making a big fuss of him, probably because he smokes every day and stinks of the stuff. He never takes it out of the house though so thought it'd be cool. Anyway after an extensive search of his clothes and bags a small old dog-end was found in a pocket in a bag, probably been there from some festival ages ago. Arrested and cautioned. Awesome use of police time and resources 🙄
No I mean its perfectly legal. The law states that there must be sufficient quantity.....which a spliff does not contain!! (well some might well do but rather you than me smoke them regular)
That'll just be some sort of guideline for the police, not the law
A friend got pulled recently at a train station. A little sniffer dog started making a big fuss of him, probably because he smokes every day and stinks of the stuff. He never takes it out of the house though so thought it'd be cool. Anyway after an extensive search of his clothes and bags a small old dog-end was found in a pocket in a bag, probably been there from some festival ages ago. Arrested and cautioned.
I bet that's done his paranoia wonders........ 🙂
Only could someone on STW think that this poses some kind of real health risk!
I am not sure of the impact of cannabis on young children's health or mental health....
TBH cannabis is far from risk free as *everyone* has a story about someone who has totally lost the plot due to weed.
I am not sure of the impact of cannabis on young children's health or [b]mental health[/b]
I reckon this is the most dangerous aspect to cannabis and kids smoking it. As for those effects in this instance, I wouldn't like to say - you'd have to do some sort of PPM test or something similar to assess the risk.
TBH cannabis is fair from risk free as *everyone* has a story about someone who has totally lost the plot due to weed.
I think that says more about the user than the drug.
TBH cannabis is fair from risk free
That isn't what I meant.
The tiny quantities that will be inhaled passively, from several metres away and in the open, would pose no real risk to anyone's health.
Junkyard, I think you might be surprised what the law thinks about Cannabis, even to the extent that its the only Class B drug with its own special proceedures:
Rather than bore you with the [url= http://www.drugscope.org.uk/resources/drugsearch/drugsearchpages/cannabis-laws ]Drugscope [/url] pages long winded version I'll give you the Dutch version:
Caught once: You've been a naughty boy, throw it away
Caught twice: You've been a naughty boy again, throw it away again
Caught a 3rd time: Might treat you to a drive down the cop shop. Once down there and having stewed for a while in the cells, they'll let you go with a stern word....or Police Caution as they like to call it
Caught a 4th time: Same as above, but this time Segeant Noddy reckons you need teaching a lesson and says you'll go to court. They'll let you go and warn of a court date. CPS get hold of it and tell Sergeant Noddy to stop wasting his time.
You get the picture, unless we are talking about serious quantities then they police really do nothing about it. Its not worth their time to go chasing a few smokers when there are much more serious criminal activity going on around them. Litter dropping for example!
The tiny quantities that will be inhaled passively, from several metres away and in the open, would pose no real risk to anyone's health.
and your qualifications and/or clinical experience to make that statement are?
Or is that just your layman's opinion on something you have little real knowledge about? Not that I know any better; or claim to. However I wouldn't be happy to say that its completely safe for the OP kids and don't worry about it.
Biggest risk is when the OP's kids get to uni and they smell weed and it reminds them of childhood summer days playing in the garden, so they end up loving it, and trying it...
Nah... don't be daft Molls. Unless you're a complete amateur, or have been raised in a monastery, or something, then by the time you're at uni, its [url= http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/society/happiness-linked-to-being-on-mdma-2013070174373 ]MDMA[/url] and chop.