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And, unfortunately that hasn't happened on this occasion. Best advice I can and will offer to that is move on, let it go and be very ****ing thankful you have health, two working arms legs, eyes and you can choose to conduct your life as you so desire.
Sensible first sentence, second sentence which contradicts the first.
Aracrer... Not really though.
There is a marked difference between concourse and dent free.
Dent free = dents not visible to an unsuspecting person not looking for dents
Concourse = no slight distortion even when you peer down the side of the car checking to see if it's still perfect
I think there may be some room between not caring about its condition and not using it and treating it like an ornament .you want to keep it immaculate - keep it in your house! Keeping your 'pride and joy' outside and dragging it round congested city streets and then getting stressed when it gets marked is madness to me.
Always extremes on stw and no middle ground between the two
It really is possible to own a car and try to not damage it and be annoyed if it gets damaged.
Junkyard, judging by some of the replies to this thread apparently it not.
[quote=Junkyard ]Always extremes on stw and no middle ground between the two
Well we did start with the OP where he's bothered about ripples which aren't visible unless you look for them, and now he's claiming he's not trying to keep it in concourse condition.
Looks it not what i want to do with a car nor do i want to clean and polish my bike after a ride.
However if someone does I can see why they are angered/annoyed/livid/out out/perturbed by an avoidable accident damaging their thing.
Aracrer you are just being a dick now.
I've seen and been around a few concourse cars over the years. The things are clean enough to eat your dinner off.
My car is no where near being that clean as it used everyday.
What I'm trying to do is prolong the inevitable dents and paint chips etc.
Just because I want it to be dent free doesn't mean I want it to be in showroom condition. Ive always had it preached to my by my parents that if you look after your stuff then it will look after you. What's exactly is wrong with taking a bit of pride in my car. Just because you don't it doesn't give you the right to take the piss out of someone that does.
Non of the damage on the car has been caused by my hand.
There's some weird attitudes on here.
Someone spends a lot of money on something, could be a car, could be anything else really. It's new, it's shiny, they like it, it makes them happy. Then a week later someone comes along and damages it. And this makes them upset, maybe even angry.
Now, this might not apply to you. You might not agree with it. And that's totally fair enough. But if you can't [i]understand[/i] that then either you're being wilfully obtuse or there's something wrong with your critical thinking ability.
Those who don't get it - do you have paint / wallpaper in your living room? Artwork on the walls? Would you be cross if someone spray-painted a cock & balls on your front door? Why? It's just a house, something functional to protect you from the elements. Do you have a nice watch? All it does is tell the time, my £2.99 Casio does that. An iPhone? A blinged-up bike? A designer suit? A big telly?
People like nice things. The specific objects of their interest may vary. This surely is not a difficult concept.
Your point being?
Wheaton's Law, I guess.
Personally, It's not that I don't understand that people like nice things and want to keep them like that etc etc... Fair enough, me too.
What I don't get is the masochistic thing about having the nice shiny stuff on the street and wanting it to stay that way. I just find it hard to fathom why people would put themselves through the stress of it?
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Those who don't get it - do you have paint / wallpaper in your living room? Artwork on the walls? Would you be cross if someone spray-painted a cock & balls on your front door? Why? It's just a house, something functional to protect you from the elements.
That analogy doesn't go. Yes, I do have nice stuff in my home. But a similar thing would be having lots of expensive delicate fabrics etc in a house full of kids and dogs and then getting stressed cos they're getting dirty.
And if someone painted a cock on my door? Well, after I'd stopped laughing I might paint over it. Or not if it were a good rendering. But I should imagine that would be a much more rare occurrence than getting my car dinged.
Who said anything about stress? It's just annoying.
OP: I'm cross about something.
STW: What's there to be cross about, get over it.
You might not care if it happened to you, and that's totally fair enough, but the OP has every right to be cross / upset about it. Empathy fail.
[quote=Cougar ]Those who don't get it - do you have paint / wallpaper in your living room? Artwork on the walls? Would you be cross if someone spray-painted a cock & balls on your front door? Why? It's just a house, something functional to protect you from the elements. Do you have a nice watch? All it does is tell the time, my £2.99 Casio does that. An iPhone? A blinged-up bike? A designer suit? A big telly?
Paint yes - kids in the house so none of it is immaculate. Pictures on the walls, yes - they're still fine as out of the way of the kids (actually far more precious to me I have irreplaceable trophies from races I used to do - the more delicate ones got moved). No nice watch. A functional phone which has a broken screen because it gets used - I've just got a replacement and didn't shed any tears. Several blingy bikes, all with chips and cosmetic damage, because that's what happens to bikes when you use them. Currently my most important "stuff" is rock climbing gear which I couldn't care less how it looks as long as it works.
The point isn't that it's unreasonable to enjoy having nice things, but that life is better with a bit of perspective when things predictably get damaged (to some extent I've completely got over valuing my life by how nice my things are). Because cars get dents, bikes get hit by rocks or rubbed against walls, phones get broken screens - if you actually use them, if you want them to stay immaculate hang them on your wall.
Though it's worse than that - and apparently I'm a dick for pointing this out - the remaining damage to the car renton is bothered about here isn't even visible to an ordinary person, so a sense of perspective completely solves the problem.
Though it's worse than that - and apparently I'm a dick for pointing this out - the remaining damage to the car renton is bothered about here isn't even visible to an ordinary person, so a sense of perspective completely solves the problem.
No need to twist my words fella. I said you were being a dick trying to compare a concourse car to my everyday car.
Let me ask... You say about your rock climbing gear, although tatty still functions fine. If you were to lend it to someone and they broke a bit of kit would you be like "oh well" or would you expect them to replace it.
The point a out the car is yes, the dent is less visible now ( looks a bit worse than I thought today in the bright light) but it wasn't there at all before the incident so am I being unreasonable for it to be put back as it was ? I don't feel I am ?
You say a out your rock climbing gear, although tatty still functions fine. If you were to lend it to someone and they broke a bit of kit would you be like "oh well" or would you expect them to replace it.
Your car's not broken though.
At the end of the day it's a Skoda FFS.
At the end of the day it's a Skoda FFS.
But not any old load of concours.
FWIW
Renton, I agree with you. I'd be mighty pissed off and if I know who opened their door on the wing of my car three days after I received it I'd be asking for them to repair it as well. In your particular case it also sets a precedent - if it happened again your neighbour could say "well it didn't bother you last time..."
That said, whats done is done stop stressing over it or you'll have a bloody heart attack. And stop posting on here and letting the middle classes wind you up with their different perspectives on your view.
At the end of the day it's a Skoda FFS.
What's the brand got to do with anything ?
That said, whats done is done stop stressing over it or you'll have a bloody heart attack. And stop posting on here and letting the middle classes wind you up with their different perspectives on your view.
You may have a point !!
What's the brand got to do with anything ?
It doesn't entirely. I mean if it was something s****y like a Beemer/Merc/Alfa etc. then I could sort of see your point. But a Skoda?!
What do you call a Skoda with a sunroof?
A skip!
Too on the nose, David.
I'd have thought this was beneath you, tbh. Low hanging fruit and all that.
[quote=renton ]Let me ask... You say about your rock climbing gear, although tatty still functions fine. If you were to lend it to someone and they broke a bit of kit would you be like "oh well" or would you expect them to replace it.
I lend my gear all the time and vice versa - it's what happens when you go climbing with people. I'm not sure I could even summon up enough energy to shrug at predictable wear and cosmetic "damage" due to use. Anything more than that would imply something catastrophic, in which case the gear would be the last thing I'm worried about.
Hah; well, he did ask!
[i]What do you call a Skoda with a sunroof?
A skip![/i]
Isn't the "joke" supposed to be that a convertible Skoda is a skip and a Skoda with all the windows open is a bottle bank?
What would be the point of a skip that only had a small opening in its top? How hard would it be to barrow hardcore into THAT skip? Very, that's how hard.
ah so we lent the car to the neighbour now - or are we just making odd comparisons
Car parked in the open vs physically lending equipmentto others to use.
This is one I'm not going to win so I'm bowing out and letting all of you carry on.
As you were....
Well Renton if you will post on here then you should expect the breadth of replies received. It has happened to me in the past.... all I wanted was a bit of love and sympathy and the combined forces of STW just didn't understand... You have to admit it has all been quite entertaining though and must have taken your mind off your rippled Skoda for a while!
Maybe a different way to look at this is how you would feel if your neighbour's car had fallen onto your bin. Lovely new damaged bin through no fault of your own. Neighbour replaces bin with slightly inferior version. Would you care? No. Car = stuff = bin = stuff.
I think if someone had done wanton damage to your car then you could quite rightly be p'ed off. But an accident.... oh well... these things happen. I just think the world would be a better place if there was a bit less 'car pride' around. But that's just me.
Not read most of thread but from initial post I see where your coming from OP.
I'm currently "cruising" around in my lads caste off mk2 Corsa. He's driving an Alfa.... But paying the financial cost of the honour too.
Is"only" a Corsa but it my Corsa and it's a good honest little motor. seeing a new dent in the door at Asda etc does rile me in all honestly.
Realistically I think it comes down to how much you want to risk souring relations with a neighbour. That's where things get tough. The Corsa got gently pranged by a neighbour returning from a late shift recently. Luckily just scratched the wing mirror. Was more miffed that the guy didn't let me know out of neighbourly courtesy. I know he pranged it as it set the alarm off and I checked the video footage the next morning.
Thing is, he's a good neighbour on the whole and that's not something I want to risk souring.
Anyway, yeah,I do see where your coming from renton.
This is one I'm not going to win so I'm bowing out and letting all of you carry on
All to predictable.
Renton, one of the reasons (not the only one by a long shot*) that these threads never go well for you is that you see it as a 'win or loose' situation. If you don't like people disagreeing with you, don't start the thread with a question, asking for their opinion.
* Other reasons include: asking daft questions in the first place; responding to people clearly taking the pee; and, expecting to be taken seriously with your history on here.
I’d be gutted if my car took a bin to the wing and it got dented. I genuinely feel your pain, OP.
But I also would expect to take a certain level of [i]bantz[/i] if I posted about it on here.
Beemer/Merc/Alfa
you mean s****y or a word that rhymes with s****y