About 2 years ago, the very nice elderly lady next door fell down her stairs and died. It took about a year but finally around this time last year the house was sold. The new owners never introduced themselves and even when we put notes through their door about an alarm going off for 2 days, never bothered to come and say hello or sorry. The only time I've met the owner (bloke in his 30s), he refused to speak to me and told me his dad would come and find me and neither of them was prepared to give me a contact number (they weren't always present in the house).
About 4 months back they were given planning permission for fairly huge changes including one which could have caused problems for my house. When the party wall act paperwork dropped through my letter box I went to a local surveyor with the neighbour on the other side to ensure that everything was above board. The surveyor was quite clear that the plans were not sufficient to start work and started to work with the neighbour's surveyor to get it sorted. I've personally never been rude, I've said hello to them on a couple of occasions but I wasn't prepared to have the structural integrity of my house undermined by them without getting everything checked out.
Fast forward to yesterday, there's a knock on the door and it's the son of the family. He opens with "Just to let you know, I'm cancelling the proposed building work. You've made me feel so unwelcome in this street I'm going to sell. I hope you're pleased with yourself" before turning around and walking off.
Now, for a bloke that never once spoke to me of his own accord and that never even tried to discuss the plans, I think this is a bit rich but in a Saturday early morning bout of introspection I wonder whether I should have done more to talk to them about their plans? My personal feeling is that it's their house so they should have come to us but I was interested in the STW massive's opinion.
**** them. End of thread.
Sounds like a nobber to me.
Seems a bit harsh, ESP at this time of the day.. Sounds like a dick, maybe you're better off with them selling up anyway?
They sound like drama queens. Spit on them I say.
+1 raindog
**** them. End of thread.
+1
throw a big street party to celebrate him leaving.. make sure he doesn't get an invite..
Mate some people just have no manners or social awareness.
From your side of the story you did all you could. Just remember there are an extraordinary amount of oddballs out there 😀
And if they want to move, have a party 😀
+2 Raindog; first thing we did when we started planning our extension was talk to the neighbours.
Glad you're not my neighbour!!
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only joking. 🙂
yunki's suggestion the best so far. 😆
Can I add that you should tap into his electricity for the band? And hack his wifi so everyone there can post on Facebook and twitter about what a knob he's been.
Turn up the death metal whenever they have viewings, when they complain, tell them you were very upset by their comments and you will only desist when the whole family perform a truffle shuffle for the amusement of the rest ofthe street.
Sounds like best outcome for you, and doubt he'll be happy wherever he goes by the sound of it. Ther are some funny people out there.
He may be shy,or youre not his type of person.
LOL like the above xxxxem
You seem to be by your wording a fair and descent enough chap
and considering its been all there none coming forward and not
introducing themselves.
Think there looking for a reaction and i would not even say anything to them
As above, sounds like an idiot. On the face of it, sounds like you've not been unreasonable at all, but then there's always two sides to a story.
Perhaps he got knocked back in planning app or something and he's looking for someone to blame. Don't stand down tho, if he starts playing silly buggers, he may be just trying to put you on a guilt trip or something, pending a further application.
Sadly too shy to introduce himself but perversely not shy enough to stop him coming around and being an arse. Ah well, who gives a shit, maybe next time they'll try a bit harder.
Is there any particular reason why you weren't more welcoming towards them ?
Not sure I could have been really. I tried to introduce myself a few times and as I said, the first time I managed to speak to the bloke he basically told me his dad would be in touch and closed the door on me.
Is there any particular reason why you weren't more welcoming towards them ?
This reminds me of another thread...
Do all you can to expedite the sale and hope for better neighbours next time
**** him, his dad,mum,dog... Smash his back doors in, scorched earth policy, then salt the earth afterwards.... 😈
God I want a cig.....
They're just looking for some excuse, you're it I'm afraid.
They'll get over it..
Don't take it personnaly.
he's a dick, don't lose a moments sleep over it.
Not sure I could have been really. I tried to introduce myself a few times and as I said, the first time I managed to speak to the bloke he basically told me his dad would be in touch and closed the door on me.
I was just joking mate ! 😉
Don't worry about it, which you clearly are, and which suggests that you are not an insensitive neighbour.
Easy win, count yourself lucky!
I wonder what caused the initial rift?
Did you ever go round the back of his house and try to let yourself in?
write "Haunted" on the front lawn with salt. Then buy the house for a pittance after three months!
Why not go round, state your case and ask exactly what their problem is? Make it clear you're not wanting to build bridges, mind. You just want to know how you could make the new owners more welcome.
This is 'the big society' that posh nob keeps telling us about 😆
Sounds like they were nobs, wave 'em bye bye, hope you get someone better next time.
Our very long term (about 5 years) issues with noise from next door seems to have been sorted after our last doorstep argument. She's kept the music down to a reasonable level, has been affable enough when I've seen her in the street and has even been round a couple of times to collect her avon stuff. It's quite hard seeing the TV past her huge boobs when she stands in our living room but that's a hit I'm prepared to take.
Naughty Steve Austin.
he sounds like a pen15 but in reality he's probably just a very bad communicator.
Arrange a leaving party to celebrate them leaving...for the night before they leave, at least then they will see that some good has come of them as everyone celebrates them leaving!
Failing that, chap his door and thank him for improving your day - it can't be everyday something that you have done has had such an impact on people...so thank them for allowing you to feel that sense of power!
Funny. People who shoot themselves in their own feet and then blame everyone else. Who care what they think.
Smash his back doors in,
Careful, TJ will be offended...
the first time I managed to speak to the bloke he basically told me his dad would be in touch
I don't know why you're trying to make that out as a bit weird, it's what I always say when people speak to me.
Are you his neighbour johnners ?
What was it about atlaz that bothered you most ?
Are you his neighbour johnners ?
My dad will be in touch.
What was it about atlaz that bothered you most ?
My dad will be in touch.
...but between you and me ernie, the stench was indescribable.
sounds grim 😐
the guy who bought the house next door to my parents told them he was going to demolish and rebuild, he said i know you wont like it so what i 'll do is i 'll bring my architect round one tea time and we ll sit down and draw the plans for the new house together. they did the guy built it agreeing not to start before 9 and be finished by 5 and not work at weekends
everybody all loved up, top bloke he goes on 'safari' for 3 months every year building schools digging wells etc..
i can't believe that the op actually thinks that they may have done something wrong.
it's all further proof of the mass, introspective, soul searching nightmare that the whole forum seems to have descended into.
it's the curse of cressers i reckon. we're all doomed to a life of inward looking, guilt ridden angst.
i can't believe that the op actually thinks that they may have done something wrong
Me neither. Which leaves the most likely reason for posting as a need for attention and approbation from a bunch of strangers on the internet.
it's all further proof of the mass, introspective, soul searching nightmare that the whole forum seems to have descended into.
If you ask me (and I know you didn't) there's not enough soul-searching or introspection on here. Most of the posters on that M5 crash thread (for example) seem to have gone straight from impulse to keyboard without any thought or empathy being injected into the process.
A lady moved in next door and immediately submitted plans for a hefty extension which would have cast a fair shadow on my place and seemed a bit too large. I went round had a chat explained my objections and she changed her plans to make it a little smaller and less high.
We are now good friends and she is a lovely person who I hold in high regard.
Your neighbour on the other hand sounds like a penis.
johnners - Member
Are you his neighbour johnners ?
My dad will be in touch.What was it about atlaz that bothered you most ?
My dad will be in touch.
Gold.
i have been in my present house for 14yrs. seen off 5 sets of neighbours...... 🙄
to the OP, dont worry about it man.......... 😀
The neighbour is either odd or devious. Is it possible he thinks he's letting the OP think he's 'won' (even if the OP doesn't think of it like that) with a plan to either (a) start the building anyway or (b) slip in new plans with a minor amendment.
Also, if the planning permission has been granted, won't this be relevant to the sale of the house? So any new buyer may well feel, not unreasonably, that they can move in and start building to the approved plan.
I wonder what caused the initial rift?
The Op posted a note about the alarm going off. Believe me thats all it would take with some people. 😯
you obviously haven't tried hard enough to make a connection with him,
have you thought about kicking his back door in* and then introducing yourself
*on the house that is, anything else will certainly surprise him
Petrol bomb through his window. Doing him a favour as a) He will save on removal costs if all he has left are the clothes he stands in. b) No stuff left to remind him of the unhappy period living next to you. c)Convince him he has made the right decision to ship out. Win,win,win situation IMO.
sounds like a future problem has removed itself from your life....
We have one neighbour in our street who moved in and when invited by another neighbour for a 'meet the neighbours' drink just said 'No' and closed the door. They've just done the same trick of starting an extension and then demanding their immediate neighbour sign the party wall agreement with no consent, no advanced notice, no polite chit chat.
Really don't get it - I know all my other neighbours by name, we chat, water plants / look after cats, borrow lawn mowers etc - really quite sociable (for the South East)...
neighbours on one side are ace. on the other though, from conversations overheard in the garden they seem nice, but they wont open the door to us, even if we know they are in.
We need to do some minor work, but work that is required. pointing, filling in holes in the loft space wall to meet fire regs, and rebuilding our (shared) front wall, which is literally held up by magic, but is at a bus stop, and could easily fall on someone.
we are not even asking them to chip in, but under the party wall act, if they dont respond, we cant do it! (iirc)
maybe they have a fear of other people. :s
Smithers.....Release the Bombers!!!!!!!
So, instead of shutting up and selling, he now has a neighbourhood dispute, which he'll have to reveal during the sale process, and may well cost him a significant amount of money.
Double win!
basically what this bloke has said is:
"you've made it vaguely harder for me to get what I want, so I'm now having a childish strop and blaming you for my own problem. Because I'm a child in an adults body I am taking my bat & ball and going home. Also because of my retarded mind I am actually going to tell you it's all your fault, which should make you feel bad, but me feel better. That I've given up at the 1st hurdle is definitely not a sign of my own immaturity. So there."
put in a silly low offer on the house when it goes on the market.
johnners - not really. Just sitting around in my living room in the morning got me thinking. Personally even if every single post said "You're a ****, why did you make him feel unwelcome" it wouldn't have made an impact. I was just genuinely surprised he banged on the door.
Oddly, he hasn't done the same to the other neighbour so it's obviously something I did which pissed him off. My guess is that it's probably the note as taxi said.
....it's obviously something I did which pissed him off
Piss him off properly, by as soon as the 'For Sale' sign goes up, getting an old scrap engine lump, a stained double bed mattress, and a dozen empty cans of lager, and leaving it all in your front garden.
Just a temporary measure, but well worth the effort in my opinion.
I would second what Ernie sez. For added effect, scrawl 'Facha iz a narzi' on the front of your house. Scatter some spil bin bags full of stinky rubbish about. Have at least 3 or 4 very aggressive barky dogs, preferably Pit-Bulls and Rottweilers, that sort of breed. When people come round to view the house, play really really loud DnB, and stage mock yet realistic looking rows with your family members, where you call each other all sorts of a ****. Even better, practice stage blows on your wife, that look like proper vicious ones. Bit of make-up should provide some nice black eyes for your wife and kids.
Or if all that's a bit too much hassle, just get me round....
[b]Elfinsafety: terrorising neighbours since nineteen seventy two....[/b]
Elfinsafety - Member
I would second what Ernie sez. For added effect, scrawl 'Facha iz a narzi' on the front of your house. Scatter some spil bin bags full of stinky rubbish about. Have at least 3 or 4 very aggressive barky dogs, preferably Pit-Bulls and Rottweilers, that sort of breed. When people come round to view the house, play really really loud DnB, and stage mock yet realistic looking rows with your family members, where you call each other all sorts of a ****. Even better, practice stage blows on your wife, that look like proper vicious ones. Bit of make-up should provide some nice black eyes for your wife and kids.
Or if all that's a bit too much hassle, just get me round....
Elfinsafety: terrorising neighbours since nineteen seventy two....
wouldn't do the above il play Mozart and offer the new buyers a warm welcome
If you get any shit contact me and il make things a lot easier for you and your family.
mildred - Member
basically what this bloke has said is:
"you've made it vaguely harder for me to get what I want, so I'm now having a childish strop and blaming you for my own problem. Because I'm a child in an adults body I am taking my bat & ball and going home. Also because of my retarded mind I am actually going to tell you it's all your fault, which should make you feel bad, but me feel better. That I've given up at the 1st hurdle is definitely not a sign of my own immaturity. So there."
A perfect summing up of the situation, I feel. Under the circumstances I'd be doing metaphorical backflips and inviting the rest of the neighbours to his going-away barbeque to which he wouldn't be invited. Some people are just dicks, don't lose sleep over it.
Having said that, if I learned that TJ or ernie were moving next door I'd probably behave like him...
wouldn't do the above il play Mozart and offer the new buyers a warm welcome
😆
I once got reported to the Council for Noise Nuisance, for playing Beethoven's Fifth Syphony: Ode to Joy.
Really, really loud...
Bit of the old Ludwig Van, my dear readers... 😈
Having said that, if I learned that TJ or ernie were moving next door I'd probably behave like him...
😀
If Ernie or TJ moved in next to me, I'd be very happy indeed, and probbly regularly invite them over for drinks and play Scalextrics:
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