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Not exactly like arms dealers, as most punched card machines were sold for civilian purposes and not killing people purposes. But yes it would appear that someone taking that position is likely to be simply making excuses for making money.
FWIW I've always preferred the taste of Diet Coke to the sugar-laden stuff. Same with Irn Bru etc.
Re IBM in Nazi Germany, it’s not that IBM were pro-Nazi. The IBM guy (Tom Watson Jr I think?) was a free-market guy and wanted business to be separate from politics. He apparently even went to talk to Hitler to talk him out of his course of action, which was a bit hubristic really. They simply sold punched card machines apolitically, which meant of course the US and German governments were free to use them for whatever purpose they wanted.
Yeah, just like all the soldiers who were 'just following orders' eh?
It was so nice I’m making a bunch more tonight to use up the rest of the Fanta. Gone down very well with everyone who tried it.
Singapore noodles rock too.
Shakshuka With Feta was great for breakfast too.
I think you misunderstand.
It's a case of not doing the right thing, rather than actively doing the wrong thing. There is a difference, but that does not exonerate either and I of course do not condone working with Nazis. I have refused to work in countries on human rights grounds before however I am lucky enough to have the choice.
And of course, common soldiers refusing to follow orders would've been shot, so your comment isn't really about the same thing.
There’s a lot of that going about on this forum. (-:
Hopefully not of the intense stomach cramps and explosive diarrhea type... It hits me like Picolax.
I tend not to drink a lot of squashes and sodas - more often iced water, but every now and again - I love one.
Enjoy your nazi 'chinese' chicken eddiebaby!
molgrips it was a ref to the Nuremberg trials where it was established that only following orders isn't a valid excuse for war crimes. Not really a valid comparison but hey, this is the internet.
And I think carrying on selling them stuff even after its been established they were nasty pasties (IIRC we didn't know the camps were extermination centres but we did know they existed and that they were rounding up jews and other undesirables) counts as 'doing the wrong thing' in my book.
Ok a couple of things:
I’m pretty sure squash was always made with sweeteners, at least since I was a kid. If you want it without, get the ‘high juice’ versions, which are widely available and don’t have artificial sweeteners. I think Robinson’s do it but Asda definitely do their own.
Maybe some of the lower sugar ones did but now literally all except the posh very expensive ones have sweetners. I always shop at Asda and maybe yours is different but you can't buy basic squash without sweetners now. Even the high juice ones have sweetners if you're lucky you can buy a bottle of branded lime cordial without sweetners at £3ish.
I am all for encouraging healthy eating but i also believe in choice.
There are studies that show sweetners are not good for blood sugar responses and also gut bacteria but also i know that it's incredibly difficult and expensive to run long term trials looking at the effects of diet as it's really hard to control that over a period of years in humans. Our knowledge is constantly being updated. It was only recently that we altered our perspective that sugar was bad and not fat so much so personally i would like to be able to avoid sweetners if i choose and have an occasional sweet drink without having to make it from scratch (which i have done in the past btw. Elderflower and redcurrant absolutely delicious 😋)
If you want it without, get the ‘high juice’ versions, which are widely available and don’t have artificial sweeteners. I think Robinson’s do it but Asda definitely do their own.
All the high juice has gone with sweetener too. When the sugar tax came in most of the flavours were replaced with sugar-free ones but I've noticed that many of them have now also been discontinued at the same time as new sub-brands of posh adult squash have been launched.
Enjoy your nazi ‘chinese’ chicken eddiebaby!
And you enjoy your VAG car, food grown with German developed pesticides and opera. 👍🏼
🙂
It’s a case of not doing the right thing, rather than actively doing the wrong thing. There is a difference, but that does not exonerate either and I of course do not condone working with Nazis. I have refused to work in countries on human rights grounds before however I am lucky enough to have the choice.
It was also 80 years ago.
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If you want to discuss the Nazi influence on VW And IBM in a thread about artificial sweeteners, can we start a new thread please? Ta.
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