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Entirely due to me being an idiot I spent 3 hours this morning doing a speed awareness course online. Was well delivered, only 8 of us on the course, no idiots, we were all just getting it done.
As expected, I learnt a few things. The video on residual speeds when exceeding a speed limit were really eye opening. I'm a fan of the idea of retesting drivers if we ever had the infrastructure to do so, but even attending something based on this course would probably "be good" for a lot of drivers.
I don't have any first hand experience because i am a good boy.
But i 100 agree with some can CDD continuous driver development would be ace.
Surprised insurance companies don't offer them for reduced premium.
How is anyone expected to be judgy if the specifics of the crime haven’t been mentioned?!
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Surprised insurance companies don't offer them for reduced premium.
That is quite a good point - not sure how ready or enthusiastic insurers would be to offer reduced premiums of course.
I'm on the fence about the whole re-testing thing though - speed in particular is a contributory factor to accidents involving young (usually male) drivers who of course will only recently have been tested. A lot of poor driver behaviour isn't ignorance but arrogance.
After suffering some nerve damage I had to take a test to prove my ability to continue driving at that was a bit of an eye-opener as the testing procedure for that is much more stringent that the test to get your licence in the first place - reaction speed tests, periferal vision tests and braking pedal speed and force tests in a simulator for instance as well as a physical and cognitive testing before I could even go out on the road with an examiner. Who'd be up for volunteering for that for a tenner off you premium?
More broadly though speeding convictions are the result of either the driver not knowing the speed limit on a particular stretch of road or not knowing their own speed at that moment and thats due to attention and circumstances in that moment - its not becuase they don't know they should obey the speed limit - so testing or awareness activities maybe don't impact that.
Where I do wonder if there should be some sort of re-evaluation for drivers is when there are Highway Code changes and updates. The updates to pedestrian priorities and shared spaces recently for instance - it's quite important that drivers have a handle on that. But at present theres no mechanism for the DVLA or insurers to know whether drivers are aware of, or have acknowledged ,those changes. Even though it could be as simple its just having to acknowledge receipt of an email
But i 100 agree with some can CDD continuous driver development would be ace.
Surprised insurance companies don't offer them for reduced premium.
My old neighbour (Les) was an advanced motorist, a member for many a year and never tired of telling us about it - he was a shit driver though. Dints and scrapes all over his car and even managed to run over himself in a car park once. Rubbish at parking too and even now any wonking parking in our family is met by a sarky 'Les parking!' photo and piss take.
Anyone can train to pass a test.
I did one (ahem, my third...) last month. I'd be in favour of everyone having to do one every five years or so.
But i 100 agree with some can CDD continuous driver development would be ace.
Surprised insurance companies don't offer them for reduced premium.
My old neighbour (Les) was an advanced motorist, a member for many a year and never tired of telling us about it - he was a shit driver though. Dints and scrapes all over his car and even managed to run over himself in a car park once. Rubbish at parking too and even now any wonking parking in our family is met by a sarky 'Les parking!' photo and piss take.
Anyone can train to pass a test.
I didn't say anything about passing a test? Attend an in person or teams call, interact, get monies off. Some things will stick.
They already use black boxes to reduce premiums (or put them up depending on where they start from i guess)
I would also take a black box because as mentioned above... i am a good boy.
How is anyone expected to be judgy if the specifics of the crime haven’t been mentioned?!
Not just "old" old drivers - this muppet is expecting an invite to a speed awareness course after not braking hard enough on a steep 30mph descent the other day at a mobile camera hotspot.
I think this was the error 🤔
How is anyone expected to be judgy if the specifics of the crime haven’t been mentioned?!
Not just "old" old drivers - this muppet is expecting an invite to a speed awareness course after not braking hard enough on a steep 30mph descent the other day at a mobile camera hotspot.
I think this was the error 🤔
Jeez, even by STW standards that's some A grade stalkery!
Yeah, 35 in a 30.
As for speed being a young persons issue, based on our sample of 8, I'd be surprised if any of us were under 25.
That's exactly what happened to me. I was braking (downhill also, if that matters to anything) from a 50 to a 30 zone and hadn't slowed enough when I passed the sign. If they'd pinged me a couple of seconds later I'd have been doing 30.
It's a fair cop of course, it was my own fault. But I can't help wonder about the motivation for their positioning, if they were genuinely there to improve road safety then it'd be more effective to send habitual speeders on courses rather than getting as many collars as possible. It's little wonder that people accuse them of it being a money-making racket.
How is anyone expected to be judgy if the specifics of the crime haven’t been mentioned?!
Not just "old" old drivers - this muppet is expecting an invite to a speed awareness course after not braking hard enough on a steep 30mph descent the other day at a mobile camera hotspot.
I think this was the error 🤔
Jeez, even by STW standards that's some A grade stalkery!
Yeah, 35 in a 30.
As for speed being a young persons issue, based on our sample of 8, I'd be surprised if any of us were under 25.
To be fair if they were under 25 they probably don't need a speed awareness course.
That's exactly what happened to me. I was braking (downhill also, if that matters to anything) from a 50 to a 30 zone and hadn't slowed enough when I passed the sign. If they'd pinged me a couple of seconds later I'd have been doing 30.
It's a fair cop of course, it was my own fault. But I can't help wonder about the motivation for their positioning, if they were genuinely there to improve road safety then it'd be more effective to send habitual speeders on courses rather than getting as many collars as possible. It's little wonder that people accuse them of it being a money-making racket.
Not money making but meeting targets. I have no idea how widespread it is but at one time Strathclyde traffic had unofficial targets to meet.
A former traffic cop I know criticised some of his colleagues for going for quantity rather than quality. For example doing a speed trap on a 30mph motorway exit road where there is no danger to anyone.
In fairness that seems to be history. Local traffic department numbers have been cut. I can't recall the last police speed trap I have seen locally.
Did you have the obligatory argumentative tit in your group, the kind whose continuing driving education and attitude to other road users has been provided exclusively by the Mail and Facebook?
But I can't help wonder about the motivation for their positioning, if they were genuinely there to improve road safety then it'd be more effective to send habitual speeders on courses rather than getting as many collars as possible.
I was done for much the same - not slowing down quickly enough entering Jedburgh. There are now "countdown" markers leading up to and around the corner where the 30 mph sign was so perhaps that one was a safety issue after all.
As for speed being a young persons issue, based on our sample of 8, I'd be surprised if any of us were under 25.
You're confusing the people who speed with the people who get caught speeding. The young person issue is with people involved in accidents because of speed. People who intend to speed know thats what they're doing and are especially alert to speed cameras and the like. Young drivers in particular are particularly aware of the risks of getting caught because they face double the penalty. The people who get caught speeding tend to get caught because they didn't intend to speed, didn't notice they were speeding and also didn't notice that there were cameras.
Jeez, even by STW standards that's some A grade stalkery!
Yep, I didn't even know it was that easy to search through another forumites previous posts!
I went initially to look if you had posted on the EV thread to see if you had a car which might be deemed modern with some intelligent features such as a speed limiter or cruise control. I couldn't find that thread but spotted your reply on another thread about your mishap so copied that instead.
We recently changed our car and now if you accidentally 🤔exceed the speed limit you get a wagging finger in the form of beeping which apparently you can't turn off 🙄
Sounds useful.
I have my third course coming up. Spread over 10 years. All three were down to getting the speed limit wrong. “Pay more attention” is the obvious cry… but “BEEP, you’re not in the forty zone you and the other drivers in your queue think you are” would be welcome.
