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haha. life's a ****in bitch no sh*t. isn't the above stuff just normal life crap that people get on with? interesting mumsnetstw..


 
Posted : 15/07/2011 1:13 am
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Our lad had 2 and a half weeks of mornings or afternoons, his seemed to be the only school locally that had this amount. To be honest it was a right pain covering the difference. Thank god for granparents


 
Posted : 15/07/2011 6:43 am
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I do pity the staff and head when someone who thinks that children spending a couple of weeks with 15 kids (albeit half days) so the teacher can do proper assessments of each childs development (and thus ensure that they develop a plan for that child which is appropriate to their development and prior learning) whilst introducing them to school in a controlled manner is a waste of time becomes a school governor.


 
Posted : 15/07/2011 7:47 am
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I do pity the staff and head when someone who thinks that children spending a couple of weeks with 15 kids (albeit half days) so the teacher can do proper assessments of each childs development (and thus ensure that they develop a plan for that child which is appropriate to their development and prior learning) whilst introducing them to school in a controlled manner is a waste of time [b]becomes a school governor.[/b]

I've had several of these types in my time as a teacher. They're usually the same folk as those who, after you've excluded their offspring for something serious, walk in to school with all guns blazing demanding to know [i]what you or your staff have done to make their precious defenceless little one react that way[/i]...

Clowns.


 
Posted : 15/07/2011 8:09 am
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Surprise surprise, OP makes a point and gets shot down in flames. Welcome to STW.


 
Posted : 15/07/2011 8:11 am
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Surprise surprise, OP [s]makes a point[/s][b]comes on here whining about everyday issues, blames the wrong people because he hasn't thought it through, then gives it billy big-balls about how he's effected change through intellectual superiority and then[/b] gets shot down in flames. Welcome to STW.

FTFY

EDIT: Come to think of it, he's the average STWer! 😀


 
Posted : 15/07/2011 8:21 am
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[i]OP makes a point[/i]

[i]My son's primary school is run by idiots[/i]

I think the point is that that the OP hasn't bothered to find out why the school works this way and has assumed it's so the reception class teachers get a gentle start to the new school year.

Posting;

"[i]Why is my son only doing half days for the first fortnight?[/i]"

Might have gained a less critical response?


 
Posted : 15/07/2011 8:23 am
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armchairbiker, you were doing ok until point 3 🙂 That just showed you to be a bit silly 🙂


 
Posted : 15/07/2011 8:26 am
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I agree with everyone who has posted on this thread..
Wholeheartedly..
and I would fight to the death to have their ideas implemented in our local primary school..

that is all..


 
Posted : 15/07/2011 8:39 am
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Bullheart, you are a wee bit too smart for a drillie 😀


 
Posted : 15/07/2011 8:40 am
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my sister is an idiot, so the following information is most likely completely wrong. i'm in no way interested in checking out if this is remotely true as i dont have kids, and i dont own a school... more importantly its friday so screw you hippies.

doesnt a child have some kinda legal right to a full time education?

*backs quietly out of the thread'*

(as i said, she's an idiot.. but when she was told her kids had to do half days she started a mini twitter campaign amongst local parents and as a result no more half days i've been told)


 
Posted : 15/07/2011 8:42 am
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(as i said, she's an idiot.. but when she was told her kids had to do half days she started a mini twitter campaign amongst local parents and as a result no more half days i've been told)

Lord, I'm so glad I'm secondary not primary. By the time they get to me the parents have had a chance to stop giving a ****, mellowed a bit and maybe learnt that they don't automatically know what is best for everything to do with their offspring just because it fell from between their legs.


 
Posted : 15/07/2011 8:51 am
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they don't automatically know best about everything to do with their offspring just because it fell from between their legs.

convert wins the coffee/keyboard interface award for most salient point made with comedy effect...


 
Posted : 15/07/2011 8:54 am
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It's like this for all the purveyors of urban myths on here; hard as it is to get your heads round. A school has a duty to educate you child a certain number of days a term (key err...term there)Some very clever people get together and decide when those will be, based on the needs of pupils and schools. Schools do not add days to term just because somebody starts a twitter campaign,that would mean they have to cut the days elsewhere.So please stop prattling about how you did this and that,and a school had to do what you wanted.Some of the posters above actually crow about it,is that your attitude?
One last wee q,then I am off on holiday. I take it nobody going on about the half days would ever take a kid on holiday during term time?

Look on these half days as a warm up to next winters strikes.


 
Posted : 15/07/2011 8:54 am
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Bullheart, you are a wee bit too smart for a drillie

Just faking it... 😉


 
Posted : 15/07/2011 8:59 am
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philconsequence - your sister is right but as has been pointed out elsewhere, this only applies after a child has reached the age of 5. The vast majority of children starting school have yet to reach this age.


 
Posted : 15/07/2011 9:31 am
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we expected her to have a couple of half days before doing a full day, so we've planned some leave from work so we can work round it ... last night, at the new starters parents night, we were informed that the half days thing will run for two whole weeks

Some might argue that you're the idiots for making plans based on an assumption that turned out to be incorrect ...

😈

But I do agree, 2 weeks to get used to going to a new school = ridiculous & unnecessary ...


 
Posted : 15/07/2011 9:34 am
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But I do agree, 2 weeks to get used to going to a new school = ridiculous & unnecessary ...

For the record, so do I.


 
Posted : 15/07/2011 9:35 am
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[i]to get used to going to a new school[/i]

It's partly that but mostly it allows the teachers to spend 1 to 1 time with each child and establish a relationship and do an assesment of them.

By splitting the class it allows the teaching assistent (which all reception classes have) to manage the rest of the pupils whilst the teacher is doing this.


 
Posted : 15/07/2011 9:37 am
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it allows the teachers to spend 1 to 1 time with each child and establish a relationship and do an assesment of them.

That sounds like the sort of nonsense they do in private schools. If MoreCashThanDash had wanted that I'm sure he would have paid for his kid's education.


 
Posted : 15/07/2011 9:40 am
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philconsequence - your sister is right but as has been pointed out elsewhere, this only applies after a child has reached the age of 5. The vast majority of children starting school have yet to reach this age.

Meanwhile, on the continent.....
My youngest starts school in September and we have been told that for the first few days it would be better for her to come home for lunch to allow her to adjust.

She is 3 years old.


 
Posted : 15/07/2011 9:43 am
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It's partly that but mostly it allows the teachers to spend 1 to 1 time with each child and establish a relationship and do an assesment of them

yeh, that's what my sons school said... but that's just posh waffle for "we must spend two weeks delicately tip-toeing around your precious bundles of joy, generally namby-pambying around the poor ickle darlings otherwise they absolutely definitely will be traumatised for the rest of eternity and grow up to be axe-murdering psychopaths."

followed up by "now, please can someone come and help me wrap these children in cotton wool"


 
Posted : 15/07/2011 9:44 am
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Whoah, some right b*stards on this thread! Glad you lot are not in charge!


 
Posted : 15/07/2011 9:47 am
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"posh waffle" - you should get that published as you seem to be on to something here that these highly trained educational professionals have not realised...after all you have children what do they know about education that you dont eh.
It is terrible when people are concerned and try and help your children settle in and adapt to change in a positive way. Like you I wish they would just not care and just throw them in the deep end and see if they can swim ...can I just say it must be PC gone mad as I feel it is time we discussed this in this context


 
Posted : 15/07/2011 9:49 am
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Why aren't the children tending looms or up chimneys? What do they need education for anyway?


 
Posted : 15/07/2011 9:52 am
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[i]tending looms or up chimneys[/i]

surely you need to drop the 'or' 😉


 
Posted : 15/07/2011 9:54 am
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so i strode up to HM told him every school day was preciuos and that my kid would be there all day.. and she was..

gosh you sound soooo tough I think I am in love


 
Posted : 15/07/2011 9:55 am
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yes lefty liberals eh limiting our kids free choice to work two jobs at aged 5 🙄


 
Posted : 15/07/2011 10:01 am
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Kids ability/level of development varies dramatically between individuals when they first start school, hopefully a responsible school will ensure that they'll all progress at a simular rate. Just as an example, 40% of children in London schools speak English as a second language, this will have serious implications for their reading ability. Plenty of other issues have to be considered - personal ability, home environment, etc. Without a pro-active attempt to identify issues, kids can and do fall behind. Whilst others might be held back.


 
Posted : 15/07/2011 10:04 am
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an ex-gf taught reception for quite a few years in a school where that term's starters did a half day.
A lot of them could barely stay awake in the afternoon when they moved to a full day.

Mind, that was an inner London primary with kids that understood just about every language except English.
It's probably a lot different in middle England.

The wee dears start school too young anyway imo- our oldest will be 6 and a bit when she starts, and will probably be the better for it. Just means we made a different set of compromises in life to morecash..


 
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