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Six slips now!
More people to drop a catch
Don't need them...... .
I’m going to keep slating the catching 😂
Six wickets now!
😁
Can’t catch for toffee
*waits*
All out for 100 Shirley ?
Close, Houns, close!
Would have been right if Broad hadn’t been bowling village. Day topped off with another Somerset win; looking forward to tomorrow.
Good morning everybodeeeeeee.
england putting india to the sword now! lead of 123 should declare now at tea and bowl 'em out before the weather sets in 😉
Nah - have a biff after Tea and then bowl a dozen overs before stumps.
I wonder who MOTM will be? Double honours board, utterly fantastic!
I have been painting my house all day today, complete joy to listen to TMS for 8 hours
that will be it for the day match will resume monday!
weather not looking quite as bad as forecast so may get some play today
So, declaration and get amongst 'em?
depends how many tickets have been sold for tomorrow 😉
No declaration.
Smash a quick 50, then?
Odd decision - would have thought it is perfect for bowling, and the forecast for today isn’t great.
Smash a quick 50, then?
need to hit it first
396-7 declared.
Vijay out for a duck.
India 0-1
the gammons in the members are currently muttering about "the lefty nonsense".
Good job they batted this morning, it made a day of it.
Win in under 2 days worth of play, favourable conditions or not, that's a thrashing.
Long post (bear with me)
So- setting aside rights and wrongs of the case (there's another thread for that) - on a purely playing basis
Should Stokes go back into the side or rather, as he's been added to the squad I'd assume they are serious about playing him as he's the best all rounder of his generation.....so who makes way?
Woakes is last man in but with 137* and 4 wickets he'd be tough to drop.
Curran is the 'weakest' player (OK, all rounder) in the team in theory but has hardly let himself or anyone else down.
Rashid has been picked for a reason, but in spite of a drought and heatwave, the weather has presented us two 'swing round corners' test matches so he hasn't really been called on so far. If Trent Bridge is the same, I think he might be the one to make way and use Root as a back up spinner if needed
But that then gives a side with 2 bowlers, and 4 all rounders (OK, Curran's a bowler who bats and Root would be a batter who bowls but you know what i mean)
Then you get to the more off the wall ideas.
Ollie Pope did nothing wrong (and can catch!!), but could go with the batters moving up one in the order.
Buttler could go ......but I see him as integral to the style England want to play in the middle order, so unlikely.
Cook needs a score but first man in can always be feast or famine, he got two jaffas in T1, and one thing about Cook is that you know he'll sooner or later come good. And who'd move up to open? Buttler? Warner style to dominate, but his technique is also pretty good, as in that ODI where he batted through to win the game rather than biff and bash.
Broad...... getting on, can't really bat any more and hasn't done anything.......ah, no, wait! hasn't done anything until the second innings at Lords when he was unplayable - he is to bowling what Cook is to batting. And because batters set up games but bowlers win them, you need Broad in case today's the day he just clicks, and it's not as if he's bad when he isn't being brilliant. And it'll swing at TB, and it's his home ground, and......
So - on balance i think Rashid.
I'd go with Rashid out for Stokes if you want him back. as was shown in the Ashes it's his attacking nature that counters Root's conservative nature to get the team in the right positions. though if it swings and it's damp no real need for any changes
Rashid would be the obvious one for Trent Bridge where it usually swings. Broad can't be dropped there, it's his home ground and he destroyed the Aussies there a few years ago.
I don't think Stokes should get back in. As you've said the others haven't done anything wrong. No point going in with 5 pace bowlers, 4 should be enough so you might as well keep Rashid in just in case. The situation Stokes got himself shouldn't be ignored or condoned, I don't think he should be banned but he's got to see that getting drunk and knocking people out isn't compatible with being a professional athlete. It's his fault he wasn't in the team so he should wait his turn to get back in. Unless he can bat at 4 or 5.
Ha! I suspect he’ll be more MIchael Vaughan than Mark Ramprakash.
TMS v Tailenders today at 1600, red button/interweb/5Live Sports Extra.
Was a giggle last year
Could be a bit spicy.
Tried to get tickets for it, looking forward to 4pm!
Could be a bit spicy.
Chuckles and wonders how many others will get said comment.
Whoever's playing, go well.
Whoever’s playing, go well.
Cheers...
It's getting tense here, run rate dropping for the TMS team
Catchin Tendulkar!
Good game! Solid umpiring and some good reviews. Not sure on the counting at times there....
Oh, it’s one of those “bowl too short “ matches from Broad.
And Stokes, perhaps?
Yes, not a great first over. Settling in though.
And then Woakes’ short ball gets the third wicket - make for a jolly England lunch,
Yes, but that was a proper intentional short ball, rather than back of a length dross on a swinging deck!
should have kept Curran in the side for a bit of variation, military medium right arm over is all a bit predicable especially when there's no swing.
just been on catch up. Don't know why Bairstow left it, clear keeper's catch, but that's a heck of a grab by Cook.
Solid end to the day there, they need to be on and mop up very quick tomorrow to get on top. Otherwise could be a long day
Imagine how sharp Broad could be if he actually had his hand behind the ball at release....
Hmmm... strikes me that the England bowling 'attack' is still flummoxed when there's no moisture in the air or wicket. On flat tracks, they seem unable to produce any variation and at what is considered as medium - fast/medium pace, once again, batsmen can pick them off with relative ease.
Trent Bridge usually throws up a moving wicket, although apart from the first couple of hours yesterday, this time around, it looks inert. With the drizzle and moisture this morning along with the new ball, there maybe something to help our bowlers, if not, this test has India win all over it.
Personally, I would have retained Sam Curran for his variation and he can hold a bat. Is Stokes really that influential? The pundits seem to think he's the contemporary Botham, I'd be more convinced if he were our equivalent to Jaques Kallis.
I’d be more convinced if he were our equivalent to Jaques Kallis.
He had a batting average of 55! One of the greatest players ever.
Along with ABdeV!
ask the umpire 🙂
That voice...
😍
dead ball already 🙂
PMSL at the clown shoe/cricket boot hybrid...
Kallis: in 166 Tests scored 13,289 runs at 55.37, took 292 wickets at 32.65 and took 200 catches! So often underrated because he just got on with it. No fuss, no shouty shouty.
He’s a better all rounder than Botham, Imran and Kapil. Probably second only to Sobers as an all rounder. Certainly the best all rounder since the mid 90s unless you sneakily allow Gilchrist a look-in and even then, Kallis is better.
wheels are coming off here!
need another 19 to save the follow on 4 wickets left
woakes reviews, muppet!
come on Jimmy just a nudge, buttler in full 20-20 mode
England have lost all 10 wickets in a session 3 times in the past 2 year. Prior to that it was 74 years since they last did it.
A telling stat.
england are being flayed to all parts now
ffs shambolic
Deary me. I go out for the day and come back to this! Just read the scoreboard, haven't bothered checking anything else. Any positives?
@dannyh, my point entirely, of the modern era, JK is supreme not least because of his consistency. You named the other two!
This series so far has actually a perfect example of how home series against subcontinent teams cover up the cracks for England.
With the ball moving extravagantly we are the best bowling side in the world, but batting wise England have been there for the taking since ball one. India have just been worse.
What on earth Kohli was doing picking the chinaman bowler for Lords and bringing Ashwin on as fifth bowler, I really don’t know.
Well, England can wave this one by and try to get their heads straight for Southampton.
The batting collapse yesterday was abject. It's like England can't envisage a situation where an opposing team can have a good session in English conditions and just keep playing the same way, no matter what.
Pandya had a very good spell - but England could have denied him two or three of those wickets by being more cautious. Pandya is a classic hot/cold player - not a lot in between. An exciting guy to watch when he's firing with bat or ball, but the kind of player that can easily be put back in his box by some obdurate play. With the amount of time left in the game, England could have blunted that attack and should still be batting now. Their best spinner is crocked!
got very dusty in here ! 🙂
Yep that was lovely
That was indeed a touching email- got repeated on brekker telly this morning.
Id like to think grit will be shown and we’ll grind out three hundred plus in the fifth day, but anticipate being bundled out for under 200 today.
It's only 6 sessions, as Vaughn said 1 wicket per session dig on and make them work for it - sounds plausible, or early tea and off clubbing which would you prefer?
that's the one for the session
FFS
still on track....
as an aside given how the bowlers have performed so well with the bat so far, would we not be better off with 7 or 8 bowlers/all rounders in the team and open with Jimmy and Broad?
see what happens when you hold your catches
FFS #2
Not that I ever want to see a player dropped, but it's hard to see how England can't drop Jennings now - left handed top order batsman who is struggling for runs and shelling catches in the slips - rings a bell from a couple of weeks ago!
I watched the highlights yesterday and England were just awful - I firmly believe the injury to Bairstow wouldn't have happened during an intense period of play where everyone was 100% up for it - his feet would have been moving better and he would have been less likely to be caught in the classic "I'll go for this fingers down, but it's getting big on me......" mess.
Is it worth England going for six or sticks now - get this over with quickly and have an extra day off before the next game? I'm not sure what good it will do investing a lot of effort in this game now - sad though it is to say it.
"the england captain wafts at a wide one"
embarassing now