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I'd quite like WI to win. If i could do a deal, it'd be for the Aussies to lose to Bangladesh in return for England losing to WI - after the Aussies were less than complimentary about their host's test win ratio.
(I really don't like Steve Smith basically and will jump on any perceived indiscretion on his part as a means to like him / them even less)
(I really don't like Steve Smith basically and will jump on any perceived indiscretion on his part as a means to like him / them even less)
I'd agree with that
it also helps that I'm going to Lords next Friday to watch D2 of the final test and it'd be nice to not be a dead rubber.
How bad does our declaration look now!
It now looks like it will provide an easy way for Root to get the press off his back if they ever criticise him for being too cowardly with a declaration!
I was chuffed at the time when we declared.
Yes, it looked good at the time and nobody criticised it then - though it was obviously always a gamble because a draw seemed unlikely. You can't judge these things by hindsight.
Agreed mate.
What a game this is now.
Blackwoods trying to score as many as he can before new ball here. Brave, maybe rash, maybe genius.
Test match cricket.
Nothing else like it!
Is the light an issue? Did Root have that in mind when he asked for the review which took a bit of time? Will the new ball make it easier to score (not that I think the WI will have any trouble knocking them off anyway if they bowl all the overs, but they might not bowl all the overs...)?
Don't think light will be an issue, sunset isn't for a couple of hours. Think he reviewed it because he gets 2 more reviews with new ball. RUns will come a lot quicker now, but wickets should come too, and neither of these are openers, it's a 5 day old pitch, cloudy and under lights.
Lines have to be perfect from Anderson and Braod now.
Ballsy 6 off the new ball
This mons a maniac!
Drinks and a stocktake for root. I can see a cruse to victory for the wi here
oof..... not easy but they need to be held
We are going to get murdered in the Ashes.
The inability of the bowlers to get wickets today is a concern. Hell of a match though!
Not really, Was a fairly poor test all round ( how many dropped catches) I really wouldn't read too much into it. Well done WI and all to play for .
Well played West Indies
The inability of the bowlers to get wickets today is a concern.
It's worse when you consider Broad and Anderson have never moved the Kookaburra off of straight!
We need some pace and/or height into the attack for Aus. A reliable go-to spinner as well, although Moeen is getting there.
Well done windies but it was a lack lustre ending or maybe I'm biased as an England supporter. We can't keep letting broad and co throw themselves down the wicket in Australia they will be broken. We need a rip snorting fast bowler.
Absolutely nothing wrong with our bowlers but they will fizzle out if they don't have the right support.
[quote=dannyh ]It's worse when you consider Broad and Anderson have never moved the Kookaburra off of straight!
That's quite clearly not true
http://www.espncricinfo.com/series/13062/commentary/428750/Australia-vs-England-2nd-Test-The-Ashes
Maybe we should stop worrying about the Ashes & worry about WI first!
yossarian - Member
We are going to get murdered in the Ashes.
Don't worry Australia are attempting exactly the same thing at the moment
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-08-29/australia-chasing-unlikely-win-against-bangladesh-in-dhaka/8853756?section=sport
oh and if any one is interested
4 down 79 to win
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-08-30/bangladesh-v-australia-first-test-day-four-live-blog/8855738
I'm still questioning Root's decision to declare rather than just making the game safe.
We only had to draw this match to win the series - why risk defeat chasing a win that wasn't ultimately needed?
If it was a must-win game then go for the result but in this case I think it was a poor decision.
so he should have done exactly what generations of past captains have been criticised for?
England should have won, despite being 'behind' for 3 2/3 days. 322 should have been plenty, it was a good declaration, and it made for an exciting test match. We didn't bowl or catch well; Hope had a worldy (no-one's EVER made 100 in each innings of a FC game at Headingley, in 130-odd years of the game there) and Brathwaite nearly did the same too. Just accept it, that if we want to learn how to win test matches sometimes you have to risk losing them.
Aus vs Bangladesh bubbling up now - 66 to get, 3 wickets and Shakib is ragging it.
2 wickets Maxwell gone
and I agree they should have won from there, a later declaration would have been a nod to a draw.
From the stuff I watched it looked like the pitch settled down and had less or the bowling went downhill
I'm still questioning Root's decision to declare rather than just making the game safe.
Well yes, he could have done that, but I'd rather he didn't automatically take a negative option that completely neutralises the final day. And you could see the argument for the declaration - the possibility of removing one of the openers that evening, then slightly damp conditions in the morning for your swing bowlers to pick up a few more.
WI had to take significant risks to make the total, wouldn't have taken much to push the result the other way, in which case we'd be lauding Root for winning from a big first innings deficit.
I would also say that you want to take the chance to win the game and the series. That was , as everyone agrees really, the most likely outcome, to win from that position.
But a draw would have won us the series - now we could lose it which is why I'm questioning the decision.
Root gave the Windies an achievable total to tempt them to go for it. If it was a game we needed to win then a bold and applaudable decision - but not in this circumstance I don't feel.
But a draw would have won us the series
Nope. It's a three test series. Would have ensured we couldn't lose it, only draw at worst.
I could understand ensuring a drawn series where it meant we retained the Ashes, but not against WI.
GlennQuagmire - Member
But a draw would have won us the series - now we could lose it which is why I'm questioning the decision.
Well best make sure we win.
it is hotting up in Bangladesh - Aussies need 30 with no wickets left, 6 just dispatched
Never mind, Mike!
Good on Bangladesh, I was hanging around at work until the Aussies were done for, certainly not cheering for them
the bogans are not exactly flourishing, i wonder if this will put a lid on their ‘chat’ and bigging themselves up before an ashes series and who they are going to ‘target’ etc?
i always see that a sign of weakness but then they are a funny lot and their boorish mentality does obviously give them self belief. fun to watch when it all implodes though (Ricky Ponting 😆 )
the bogans are not exactly flourishing, i wonder if this will put a lid on their ‘chat’ and bigging themselves up before an ashes series and who they are going to ‘target’ etc?
not much of that going on here!!
And the commentator at one point suggested it might be a meteor!
Easy mistake to make I guess, they look very similar 🙂
Crossbow bolts don't travel that far do they? I've seen the walking dead
Anyway back to the cricket, it seems Westley gets another chance and the selectors don't get to try out anybody else for that number 3 position. Does that mean he gets on the plane this winter even if he fails again, or will they recall somebody else who has already failed (Ballance is looking better and better every time somebody else plays)?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/41145541
Not impressed!
Met a fair few old cricket hands in Barbados over the years, and I can almost hear their rage at this from all the way over here.
Just not cricket.
Video available [url= http://www.timesnownews.com/sports/article/watch-kieron-pollard-bowls-deliberate-no-ball-to-deny-evin-lewis-well-deserved-century-in-cpl/84991 ]here [/url].
129 in seven overs - the other 40 balls can't have been that good...
ASK THE UMPIRE
a nearly incident on the T20 finals at the weekend, got me thinking.
The batsman hit the ball into the ground, onto a pad, maybe a foot, trying a huge slog in the last couple of overs. The ball bounced up with backspin, and nearly rolled back onto the stumps. Meanwhile the non-striker had come through for a run and was close enough that if the ball had looked like hitting the stumps could have intercepted it.
The batter could legitimately have done that but could the non-striker? Is it obstructing the field when there wasn't a fielder within probably 10 yards of the ball (was right at the end where a single is a good result for the fielding side so no major attempt for a fielder to charge in to try a run out). So he wouldn't be obstructing anyone. Couldn't be handled ball because he'd have used a foot.
It would be obstructing the field, once the batsman has played the ball (including a double hit to protect his wicket), neither batsman may deliberately strike the ball with his bat or person (Law 37). As a point of interest, from October I think, handled ball will also be obstructing the field and officially there will one less way to get out.
All set for Blowers' last test 😥
Will be a shame to hear his final musings.
Cricket needs characters like Blowers.
All things must pass. Very sad, also might mean we hear more of Swann, also sad
Just on my way, weather set fair, looking forward to a good day.
First time in ages that I haven't been able to get to the Lord's test. 🙁
Still, means I can WFH and listen to TMS all day, so it's not all bad.
Got ticket for tomorrow when weather not set fair. Grrrr.....been looking forward to it all year.
Rather than sit in the rain waiting for it to be called off mid afternoon, any (good) suggestions for how i should spend my afternoon once i've sacked off the cricket.
WI batting first.
Blowers at 1140.
I hope the test is a fitting send off for Blowers
Geoffrey at 12. Do what you will with that information
Geoffrey at 12. Do what you will with that information
I'll turn off TMS for a bit then
Well quite...!
Blowers brings the first wicket!
Enjoyed blowers saying the head groundsman's proper name, not his 'nickname'
😉
And a rain break with Blowers
Bliss
And a rain break with BlowersBliss
Grinning from ear to ear here!
499...
I'm most upset that Blowers is retiring. Does anyone know if today is his last day, or this is his last test? I really don't want to miss his final call...
Last test, Si.
What are great lunch break this is. I have my Trent Bridge 04lbw24w..... T-shirt on 8)
It's glorious, isn't it?
Boycott is on typical miserabilist form today
urgh
" The amber liquid begins to talk"
Game is picking up the pace now....
Boycott is on typical miserabilist form today
I do wish they would give him the boot.
Ha typical that i turn off TMS for a bit and two wickets go down i quick succession. I've listened to 90% of the coverage today and not heard any of the four so far! 😀
I missed the fifth as well whilst the work wifi was dicking me about. Shall I just stop trying to listen today?
Shall I just stop trying to listen today?
Please tell us you just nipped to the kitchen.....!
Twice?
😆
101-7!
Ha no i actually heard these two. Was enjoying Blowers talking about getting a taste for Jaegerbombs as the last one went as well
Having him talk about jargerbombs and women in red dresses, this is public service broadcasting in the literal sense. He cannot retire!
Stokes 5-22. Good work big fella
EDIT: 6-22 and another of those suspended hat trick opportunities.
Make that 6 for!!!