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[i]My aunt used to work in a haunted building and it was common knowedge with security that ghosts existed. [/i]
Where I live, it's common knowledge that a witch can take away your genitals just by touching you.
Well, it would be if I live in certain parts of Africa.
Which leads to the conclusion that either the witches have a lot more power round there than locally, or despite it being 'common knowledge', people can be somewhat deluded.
My own Father, the man who created me, who nutured me, who I would trust with my life, who I would trust with my childrens lives, told me he was trapped in a submarine which was in a castle four miles from his house.
He was in Intensive Care, full of morphine, very ill.
The lesson I learnt from this is 'don't believe everything you are told'.
Well of course we don't. Parallel universes may exist they may not but ghosts don't
but the point is, a 'ghost' might not be a dead thing / spirit; it could be some an entity out of sync in some way - different dimensions etc - something scientific / based in reality - but just not yet understood.
[i]but the point is, a 'ghost' might not be a dead thing / spirit; it could be some an entity out of sync in some way - different dimensions etc - something scientific / based in reality - but just not yet understood. [/i]
Yes your right that is exactly the point we've been arguing, thanks for catching up with the thread.
If you go to [url= http://www.newscientist.com/ ]New Scientist.[/url] Search for ghosts and the report I mentioned earlier is at the top. May be others but I haven't looked through the rest.
Love those ghost stories, keep 'em coming. Wish I had some to tell.
@ CTML - N1 😆
josh1982... the best thing you can do is go in the room and quite firmly tell the presence to go away. but if you want some more advice i'll ask my father-in-law and wife for you as both are quite sensitive. my email is in my profile.
My 2 1/2 year old keeps saying he sees a lady in his room
Fast forward 13 1/2 years...
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[i]the best thing you can do is go in the room and quite firmly tell the presence to go away[/i]
Yeah see this tip.
Two nuns were driving their car through Transylvania when suddenly
Count Dracula lands on the bonnet, snarling at them through the
windscreen.
"Quick, show him your cross!" screamed one of the nuns.
The second nun leaned out the window and yelled, "Oi! Get OFF the
****ing car!"
Fair do's to drac & Crikey, plenty of deaths are normal, and dead people are just dead, its not creepy or weird. I've seen some strange things in my short career, maybe i'm just noticing things and letting my imagination get the better of me, maybe I'm a conduit to the darkside and the reason I'm so shyte on a bike is cos i refused to sell my soul to the devil. Either way, I've seen things I don't understand that made me feel uncomfortable an I'm keeping an open mind that there may be more to "paranormal" stuff than just ghosts Vs made up tosh.
Do you think we (scientists) know everything?
No. But we have a damned good understanding of a lot of stuff, like how light travels and is produced, plenty about electromagnetics etc, and while certain things are unknown, plenty of the known stuff suggests ghosts are not what people think they are, if they are anything at all.
Do you think, within physics, chemistry and biology, there is nothing left to learn?!
500 billion galaxies, each with a billion stars and we're still learning about our star!
But we're not learning that it produces photons that we need to have to see it, and we know exactly how those photons are produced. Unlike these ghosty things that are apparently entirely different to everything else known to produce or reflect photons.
Replace 'paranormal' with 'un-learnt science' and be a little open minded.
Is always the easy argument put forward by those who who want to instill doubt, fair enough, but it still doesn't make it any more likely. Considering the hundreds of years the subject has been researched, and it being possibly the single most questioned belief after religion, do you not think there might be some evidence?
As for your positive results, not seen their papers so hard to judge their methods, but publication is hardly a byword for "completely correct". Linkies please!
The thing is that when talking about "ghosts" and "spirits", if you're not talking about dead people you're on a different plane to most people. Sure we could just not be aware of another dimension that we cross with occasionally, but are there not likely to be pretty hefty penalties for that interaction etc. Leading theoretical physicists have been thinking about multiple-dimension problems like this for decades and don't seem to have announced it as a reasonable possibility.
Meehaja,
I've seen some strange things in my short career,
You can't just leave us hanging there. Please, do tell. 🙂
Leading theoretical physicists
They're will always be more along with other ideas in time. 🙂
Ghosts. Tosh.
I liked the dracula/nun joke. 🙂
Anyone heard about the 'death bed' in that hospital in South Africa?
Six weeks in a row a patient died in that bed, about 9:30 on the Friday morning. All were sick enough to be plugged into a machine of some sort I can't remeber the name of, but none of them had a life-threatening condition. All patients with similar conditions in the other beds on the ward survived, just this one bed seemed cursed. One patient dying, yes, bad luck, but six in a row? And at the same time every week?
Cleaner used to come round, 9:30 Friday, unplug the machine to put her floor polisher in, do her job then replace everything and leave.
pass me the crack pipe i feel the need to see some ghosts.....
No Drac she never mentioned it after
But i know what your saying but she never had a made up friend
I remember summer staying in a bed and breakfast and
the tall mirror on the wall was always crocked even
after putting it back.
On one night in the bed I am a woken by someone stroking my leg
and no one there. Our Golden retriver never went near the right
side of the bed
I have worked in various houses and places installing furniture we
had made and witnessed a few weired things
Worst one old victorian sweat shop in Bedfordshire where we heard
lots of people running up and down the stairs and when you look outside
there was no one there and also hearing old type of music and cant find
the source of music.
Plus taken plenty of pictures of finished work and having lots of Orbs
over the picture and re-taken in a minute later and no trace of orbs
the orbs are normally (most likely always)... dust
it's quite fun to recreate them by whacking a cushion then taking a flash photo!
Has anyone been to see a medium? No, not the precursor to a Large. But a spiritual medium?
I did, some years ago. Before that, my granddad died on my dads side I woke up during the night (always slept through) and at the foot of my bed was my granddad. The next day, my father tells me his dad had died that night.
So anyway, I go to see this medium, a lady who I have never met before, she tells me of my upbringing and events that went on, she talks to me about motorbikes (which I was seriously considering) she talks to me about certain elements of my life which only my nearest and dearest know, and she tells me about some events in the future - and those events happen.
I used to live in an old-ish house, moving in and i used to hear doors closing, people walking about and general movement downstairs.
On a '6th sense' related note. I am sure there are people who will be reading this who've taken a few tablets at a party, I remember reading somewhere that taking ecstacy heightens these tertiary senses that we have when we are a child, so, armed with this knowledge and a bit of an interesting weekend planned I invited some good friends over and we all took a few of said tablets, and we played a game i'd also read about where one person would think about something in the house e.g. a clock in the next room, and in your mind you would repeat this information and 'shout' it out using your mind (sounds weird but i'm sure you know what I mean) anyway, placing your hand on top of the persons head 'shouting' out this information (you wouldn't speak) you had to listen to what they were saying - out of the people who were at my house pretty much everyone 'heard' what was being said.
I'm not religious by any stretch but I do believe in spirituality and life after death, some people will see and hear things, some people won't.
Hope you're little one sorts things out and the "daddy telling off the ghost to not come back" sounds like a good plan.
imo of course 😉
jt
I often hear noises like people walking around upstairs at our place.
But it's usually the neighbours in the flat above, they're so inconsiderate having wooden floors & wearing clogs (i kid you not 🙁 )!
Thanks for all the replies.......last night was a spooky one again and freaked the mrs so much she wouldnt stay in with him today so went over the inlaws.
i think she has realised she is safe so all good so far........night light in room and all peaceful.
This is the biggest thread i have started!!!!!
When my nephew was 4 he used to tell my mum that a person with bright red eyes standing outside our house staring at him, it happened during the broad daylight and my mum did check it but no one was there. At that age my nephew was never shown any movie of monster etc ...
I believe children can see "things" due to their innocence but sometimes they may simply be caused by something else like nightmare or over active mind or hallucination due to high fever or eaten wrong stuff.
One of my friend once saw a big pair of hairy feet under the window inside his room and he was in his late teen. Never drank alcohol nor taken any illegal substances in his life. Scared the shite out of him. The next time I visited I noticed all the holy scriptures plastered all over the wall in his room. He also told me "something" was scratching his window at night.
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When my nephew was 4 he used to tell my mum that a person with bright red eyes standing outside our house staring at him, it happened during the broad daylight and my mum did check it but no one was there. At that age my nephew was never shown any movie of monster etc ...
I believe children can see "things" due to their innocence but sometimes they may simply be caused by something else like nightmare or over active mind or hallucination due to high fever or eaten wrong stuff.
One of my friend once saw a big pair of hairy feet under the window inside his room and he was in his late teen. Never drank alcohol nor taken any illegal substances in his life. Scared the shite out of him. The next time I visited I noticed all the holy scriptures plastered all over the wall in his room. He also told me "something" was scratching his window at night.
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p/s: if this appear the second time there must be "something" causing it ...
josh1982 - MemberThanks for all the replies.......last night was a spooky one again and freaked the mrs so much she wouldnt stay in with him today so went over the inlaws.
i think she has realised she is safe so all good so far........night light in room and all peaceful.
This is the biggest thread i have started!!!!!
Josh,
1) check the history of your house.
2) check the location/land on which your house is built on.
3) ask him nicely to describe what they look like.
4) ask him what those "two" were doing ...
5) find out what time it happened and keep a diary.
6) feel the room temperature ...
7) check the room out but try not to be scared yourself. See if you can sense your hair standing or goose pimples popping.
Remedy ... use kind words.
1) ask the "two" kindly what they want.
2) ask the "two" to "speak" to you in your dream.
3) let them know they are frightening the kid.
4) ask the "two" to go in peace if you cannot help them.
5) ask them to seek someone who can help them at the church, temple etc
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Drac,
As one of my bacon chewing rational Jewish engineering mate once said there is nothing but carbon beyond this existence.
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LOL@Drac's Link!
As my earlier post alluded to, our 3 year old has a good imagination. But, if you start talking to her about monsters or similar she'll describe them in intricate detail - she's just keen to please me so says what she thinks I want to hear, and gets a reaction.
We get the floorboards creaking as the house cools every night, and it sounds just like someone walking about (occasionally it is our three year old).
I'm with the BS camp on this one though - and I'd say that by encouraging the a child to imagine ghosts (real or not actually) will set them up for life with attitudes based on those 'encounters'.
In fact there's a whole host of child things going on around 2-3. Imagination is the big one, complete with a resurgence of separation anxiety and dreaming (in ours at least). Certainly ours 'fought' to sleep in our bed for a few nights around her starting kindergarten. we stuck through it and all good now, so any other life changes going on with your kid or you?
Perhaps something your wife and you need to consider is if you're at risk from whatever event is happening in your house. Paranormal or not, I bet you've not really had any major event other than "it's a bit spooky" - which in fairness any house can be in the right circumstances.
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Remedy ... use kind words.1) ask the "two" kindly what they want.
2) ask the "two" to "speak" to you in your dream.
3) let them know they are frightening the kid.
4) ask the "two" to go in peace if you cannot help them.
5) ask them to seek someone who can help them at the church, temple etc
So, confront your fear, analyse it and accept it or delegate to someone who will 'accept it' for you.
Sound advice, unreal as the ghost (probably) is...
If you were to put a cactus in your kid's room and tell your wife and son that it's a special one that's been blessed by the local church (perhaps holy water, cacti hold water) and therefore will totally sort the problem, would that work? It will perpetuate the issue mind.
On a '6th sense' related note. I am sure there are people who will be reading this who've taken a few tablets at a party, I remember reading somewhere that taking ecstacy heightens these tertiary senses that we have when we are a child, so, armed with this knowledge and a bit of an interesting weekend planned I invited some good friends over and we all took a few of said tablets, and we played a game i'd also read about where one person would think about something in the house e.g. a clock in the next room, and in your mind you would repeat this information and 'shout' it out using your mind (sounds weird but i'm sure you know what I mean) anyway, placing your hand on top of the persons head 'shouting' out this information (you wouldn't speak) you had to listen to what they were saying - out of the people who were at my house pretty much everyone 'heard' what was being said.
Ahhh the old druggies hand-phone. Amazing. 🙂
It really does just amaze me that a large portion of the UK arent still performing ritual killings and dancing for rain.
It was just a tangible, or if you wish a trying example that we aren't just life/dead/the end.
And the medium? Tosh? The Wicker Man? We didn't burn him!
Well dear chap, how do these things work? How was I told about fairly close and private matters - specific items, that only my parents would know?
It was all a very long time ago, but mocking still doesn't answer why.
Well dear chap, how do these things work?
It works like this: [url] http://www.skepdic.com/coldread.html [/url]
It's their profession to read your reactions and manipulate you into giving them the answer. To think that they're not that good that they could do that, or that you don't give anything away would be naive at best. They often skirt around areas in the initial chatter to get a feel for the sort of person you are and take a reasonable guess at your possible interests. If you can sit me back to back with a medium and get them to tell me SPECIFIC things no-one else can know without seeing me or getting ANY reaction from me visibly I'll be willing to admit there may be something to it.
Coffeeking, if you are in/near Sheffield I'll pass on details of the medium I went to see.
IdleJon - Member
How very egotistical of you! Do you think that humans will eventually be able to explain everything then?
Yes, given enough time. Look at all the advances we've made in the last 100-200 years, then expand that out for a couple of thousand years or more (providing we don't blow ourselves up or cause an eco-disaster etc.). It's only a matter of time before we can explain pretty much all natural phenomena. Why would you think it's not?
[i]Coffeeking, if you are in/near Sheffield I'll pass on details of the medium I went to see.[/i]
She must be pretty good; she saw you coming...
Mediums eh? As I said in my earlier post, I generally despise them, due mainly to the fact that a lot of them cynically exploit people who are grieving and desperate for comfort / answers. Then again, some of them genuinely believe they have a 'gift', but still demand money for 'helping' people. A few years ago, I got dragged along to a 'mind body and spirit fair' by my wife, who was training to be a yoga teacher at the time. There was a woman called Marion Goodfellow there, a supposed psychic medium who had made several tv appearances some years ago in what I suppose was the fore-runner of 'Most haunted'. You can imagine my unbridled joy at the prospect of much p**s taking, which didn't go down too well with the wife. Anyway, long story short, I had a 'reading' from her (the tenner it was supposed to cost seemed a small price to pay for what I presumed would be a highly amusing twenty minutes), with the express intention of keeping quiet throughout, thereby preventing her from cold reading or fishing. She then proceeded to give me, in a very direct and matter of fact manner, a list of dates and specific events, none of which I want to go into detail about here, other than to say some of them were very personal and traumatic (the deaths of my father and brother). At the end of the 'reading', she p***ed herself laughing, and stated she had 'known' I had been holding back from supplying her with details. She then refused to take any money from me, simply stating we would probably bump into one another again in the future. The wife had a reading from her shortly afterwards, however, and thought she was appalling! I still have no idea how she was able to be so specific without me actually giving her the information.
[i]I still have no idea how she was able to be so specific without me actually giving her the information. [/i]
Using Occams razor; the idea that the simplest explanation is most likely to be true, what is most likely in this case?
Is it really that this person could read your thoughts, or somehow glean the information using a paranormal technique?
...and if so, why was she charging £10 a time to demonstrate this 'special gift' rather than living a life of luxury by exploiting it for financial gain, or using her skill to help make the world a better place?
They are good at it, but it's not magic, it's basic headology as used by Granny Weatherwax in Terry Pratchetts novels.
crikey - I never suggested it was 'magic', I merely stated I couldnt understand how she had been so specific without any input from myself. Go back and read my post again, then perhaps you could reply in a less patronising manner.
She must be pretty good; she saw you coming...
LOL!



