[Closed] My 11yo daughters are size 14 and my son is 20 stone - what am I doing wrong?

given the western worlds obsession with voyeuristic "reality tv" cack for the brain deficient such as big brother all we need to do is round up all the tubsters and put them in a replica of the Cretan Labyrinth. Then release some rabid honey badgers and film the results on live TV.....

"day 3, big Nige is still running, getting slimmer and has stopped for high protein aktins and paleo diet acceptable snak from the gnawed corpse of Mandy......she was too big to get around that corner and got taken out by a swift pincer manoeuvre by bill and ben the top scoring bagders of doom this week, and now for the highlights"

[i]@Solo

You were getting pissy with Junkyard and calling him a troll for disagreeing with you
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Well, you are wrong, I won't hold my breath for the apology though.
I warned JY for this:
[i]are you rejecting it then - that would be me and everyone else leaning on it then - [b]have you re written it? can I see your working?[/b][/i]
It seemed needlessly combative.

Which is why thanks to JY, I'm inclined to agree with...
[i]descending into all this... again[/i]

Not that you care, but I still think DD's post about eating better and moving about a bit, sums it up very well.

I'm off now. Ta, ta.
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all we need to do is round up all the tubsters and put them in a replica of the Cretan Labyrinth.

I misread that as Cretin Labyrinth at first. I'm not entirely sure I should've been wrong.

bad man cougar! but funny

There are a lot of people who are over weight yet who are very active.

Yes there are a lot, as in the number may be a big number, in the same way that 1000 is a big number and 10 is not, BUT it is not a statistically significant proportion of the whole.

Hmm. The whole of what? Out of all the people who are active, there are a fair few around who aren't particularly skinny. Ok so they're not super athletes, but go MTBing (or road cycling for that matter) and the proportion of people who ride regularly and are chubby is quite high. Or Sunday football, after work squash etc.

Conversely, there are quite a lot of people who eat lots of goodies and don't do exercise, and are skinny. I work with a few, and am related to quite a few.

So I think that it IS a statistically significant portion of the whole.

On the question of stupidity - the human mind is a strange place, and a good amount of it is in your belly. Seriously. If someone on crack does stupid things, you blame the drug they've taken. Sugary (or something else) foods aren't much different. It really messes with your brain.

Halcyon days and do kids today even know what 'kerbie' is? I remember having to stop mid game for the odd car......damned inconvenient

Mate and I were kerbie experts. Maximum points were achieved by throwing the ball backwards over your head, bouncing off his kerb, then yours, then his!

As an adult I'm not even sure how that physically possible!

how come its acceptable for random strangers to comment on my smoking...'that will kill you that will' ....but when i have a go at a fatty stuffing pizza into her overflowing trolley in tesco it is apparently out of order ?

how come its acceptable for random strangers to comment on my smoking...'that will kill you that will' ....but when i have a go at a fatty stuffing pizza into her overflowing trolley in tesco it is apparently out of order ?

because someone stuffing a pasty in their face won't give you passive obesity ?

because someone stuffing a pasty in their face won't give you passive obesity ?

because someone stuffing a pasty in their face won't give you passive obesity ?

I dunno. It plants the stodgy seed that usually diverts me into the nearest Greggs.

cant we start rendering fatties down to make green fuels ?
would be more beneficial to society as a whole,

OK Mr Smartey Arsey, please explain how I got so lardy then?

that's the fat fairy. it visits you at night when you sleep and deposits a high calorie creamy deposit of carbs and protein in your mouth.

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it visits you at night when you sleep and deposits a high calorie creamy deposit of carbs and protein in your mouth.

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Amedias. [i]If that were the case then there would have to have been a massive shift in our biology/external biological influence over recent years to account for such a large change in population weight distribution, and it would not be limited to the so-called developed world.[/i]

Unless that external influence was a foodstuff almost exclusively limited to the developed world, like fructose in - well, most processed foods. It supposedly alters your insulin balance, changing the tendency to put down fat.

http://www.forbes.com/2008/12/21/fat-fuel-biodiesel-tech-sciences-cz_pcb_1222fatfuel.html

hang on a minute... the women who accosted me today, crossed the road to the wall i was sitting on to tell me off. she was fat, but i restrained myself from mentioning that. if passive smoke is so bad stay the **** away from me while i am smoking

in fact you may have helped her, that detour across the road was extra calories used. Keep smoking that man and for every fatty that goes out of their way to tell you off, think "yep that's a quarter of a kitkat I've saved you, no need to thank me it's a public service"

Have you looked to see how much HFCC is in UK food? Not much that I've seen. Yop was the first thing I saw that had it, it's labeled as glucose-fructose syrup here.

in fact you may have helped her, that detour across the road was extra calories used. Keep smoking that man and for every fatty that goes out of their way to tell you off, think "yep that's a quarter of a kitkat I've saved you, no need to thank me it's a public service"

Problem is, they will think those few extra steps has earned them a twix.

...it's labeled as glucose-fructose syrup here.

[url= http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/my-11yo-daughters-are-size-14-and-my-son-is-20-stone-what-am-i-doing-wrong/page/4#post-4214172 ]Discussed[/url] a few pages back, Molgrips.

ha ha ha love it tazzy

imo , main reason so many people are obese is that food and drinks are everywhere .
fill car with petrol = food to buy
Boots the chemist probably sell more meal deal than tablets
high streets are filled with takeaway .
tv is full of food programs .

edit; sorry. that was too much

edit; sorry. that was too much

It was a leap...even for STW 8)

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Ooooh... It doesn't matter i can have lyposuction...
Not to offend anyone but I am disgusted by fat parents with fat kids. Surely thay have been told by their GP about heath effects for them in later life but the still allow their children to grow up to have the same lifestyle and heath issues that they do. (I used fat beacause overweight implies that there is a point where its ok and Due to the notorious misinterpretability of obese i didn't use that either) Last year my school took a small group to the top of mt. Toubkal in Morocco. before the trip everyone sat a bleep test. the minimum you had to achive was 7.0 not that hard at our age. But 2 member failed so miserably (2.2 and 1.6) that they were given lessons in diet and physical exersise after school. they are both obviously fat but not to the point where you would expect that kind of result, my point is that there was a sheer unwillingness to exert any effort. The annoying thing is that both have returned to the same weight they were before the trip! Both want to be racing car drivers, a job requiring physical fitness, no? but still in light of this show no inclination towards doing anything about it. I want to be a fighter pilot and I looked up the reccomended fitness for my age and have not just met it but exeeded it to become the most outstanding candidate I can be. <END RANT>

It's probably been said, (I skipped forward from page 2) but portion size.

People eat too much. Straight up.
Section in that link, mentioning the son went to a fat camp and lost 3 stone. He's still at least 7 overweight!!

As said since most of the public is overweight, people's perceptions on what is acceptable change, your "average" 14/15st person is seen as normal. Which is wrong.

Did anyone watch the hairy bikers weight loss thing? When they get on the scales and don't realise just how big they are!!

Ooh also GP's, I'm sure plenty of them are overweight too!
I know mine is.

Last year my school took a small group to the top of mt. Toubkal in Morocco

You are far too middle class to be anywhere close to understanding these issues. Red card.

"Eat food. Not too much. Mostly plants."

Also cycle everywhere.

I want to be a fighter pilot and I looked up the reccomended fitness for my age and have not just met it but exeeded it to become the most outstanding candidate I can be

*scientology bump*

bump thingy

*superflous bump*

...which would be a great name for a blues singer.

You talked about HFCC but you didn't mention any foods that actually contain it in the UK.

I still think it's pretty rare. Yop is the only thing I found that contains it.

You talked about HFCC but you didn't mention any foods that actually contain it in the UK.

I still think it's pretty rare. Yop is the only thing I found that contains it.

I don't think it is that rare in the UK, it's just called different things (isoglucose, maize syrup, and glucose-fructose syrup).

This article lists some UK foods: http://www.katearnoldnutrition.co.uk/Common_Sense_Nutrition/2010/06/28/june-newsletter-the-campaign-against-corn-syrup/

The bad news for the forum dwellers is that it includes [b]Jaffa Cakes[/b] and [b]Hob Nobs[/b]! 🙁

which would be a great name for a blues singer.

[i]Another diet thread gone the same way as normal, can't even have a discussion about the changing attitudes to body shape in the western world without it descending into all this... again[/i]

I agree with philly, there are a few people that post on these threads that are looking for an excuse/in denial about their own weight/exersize/eating habits.

I struggle with long sentences. I'm off to the pub for a pie

*burps*

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[i] I'm off to the pub for a pie[/i]

really? I'm off to the pub to get utterly ****ed after the day I've had.

Surely the simple answer to the problem is a legal limit to the width of doors to supermarkets and fast food restaurants.

If you can't fit through the doors it's time to stop buying food...

I hate threads like this. There are many people in the UK. Its not just education. It can also be a question of IQ levels. Look at many council estates, as with any society those born bright rise up and climb out whilst those with issues, borderline learning difficulties etc steadily slip down at school etc. Alcohol abuse also affects a childs intelligence in the womb etc etc. Yes its cruel saying this but in a society we arent all (100% of pop) able to make cognitive choices. The woman probably cant connect that she is doing wrong.

Wow! People really are trying to say fat people are stupid. 😯

FWIW I work with degree-educated people and many of them are overweight. As am I.
And I know a few people way smarter than me (including medical consultants) that are overweight or obese.

You actively know WHY you are overweight.

As am I