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.....so how does a committed veggie who wants to develop or increase muscle mass do this? What are the pros and cons of whey powder like substances or increase in protien in diet via more pulses, almonds, tofu and so on?
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Posted : 21/08/2011 9:48 pm
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interested in this also.

Problem i am having is lack of iron in my diet - what iron rich foods are there apart from green vegetables? (none meat but fish is ok)


 
Posted : 21/08/2011 9:51 pm
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Try a proper diet.


 
Posted : 21/08/2011 9:52 pm
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What CFH said


 
Posted : 21/08/2011 9:53 pm
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now youve opened it you may as well tuck in probably got more iron and protein than a salad!


 
Posted : 21/08/2011 9:56 pm
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predictable, flashy.


 
Posted : 21/08/2011 9:58 pm
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Sensible, too.


 
Posted : 21/08/2011 9:59 pm
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Start on eggs and quorn in its various forms!


 
Posted : 21/08/2011 10:00 pm
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now now CFH.....veggie is a proper diet and has associated health benefits.....and so on......just for the meat eaters try this one
[url= http://paleodiet.com/ ]paleolithic diet aka cavedwellers[/url]


 
Posted : 21/08/2011 10:01 pm
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it's not a sensible answer to the OP's question at all. it's trolling/flaming.
but i'm not getting drawn into this!
goodnight.


 
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A friend of mine just placed 8th in the UK's Strongest Man (Under 105kg) finals today, so there's no reason why it can't be done.

Lots of information on www.veganfitness.net
In particular, a [url= http://www.veganfitness.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=4518 ]70 page discussion on bulking[/url]
[url= http://www.veganfitness.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=22868 ]Another one on high calorie vegan foods[/url]


 
Posted : 21/08/2011 10:02 pm
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quorn spawn of the devil sorry no


 
Posted : 21/08/2011 10:02 pm
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Please vondally,don't bite. We'll be reading his particular brand of bullshit all night otherwise.


 
Posted : 21/08/2011 10:03 pm
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8th, eh? What were 1 to 7 eating?


 
Posted : 21/08/2011 10:04 pm
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Do you eat eggs cruzh?
I've always relied on eggs and nuts but recently started using http://www.bikefood.co.uk/ their protein powder, vegan friendly which is unusual, although I'm only veggie.
I'll keep you posted on how it goes.


 
Posted : 21/08/2011 10:04 pm
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DD indeed,,,it is all good baiting.......no harm done but it is a seroius question as i need to increase the muscle mass to protect/prevent and recover from surgery.
Cheers MTG intresting start does your friend take supplements?


 
Posted : 21/08/2011 10:06 pm
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See what I mean?


 
Posted : 21/08/2011 10:07 pm
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Can a vegetarian have whey powder?


 
Posted : 21/08/2011 10:09 pm
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andrewh yes but trying to keep them to a low intake. Intrested in the protien , please let us know how you go on.


 
Posted : 21/08/2011 10:09 pm
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Never tried Quorn, as it's not vegan, but I really can't see the point of replacing meat with something that contains battery farmed eggs.


 
Posted : 21/08/2011 10:09 pm
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Can a vegetarian have whey powder?

It's milk-derived, so veggies would be fine with it, vegans wouldn't.

Try a proper diet.

If a proper diet means that my brains turn to so much mush that I start reading threads purely to troll, then I'll stick to being veggie.


 
Posted : 21/08/2011 10:15 pm
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It's milk-derived,

I was thinking about the rennet.


 
Posted : 21/08/2011 10:18 pm
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I was thinking about the rennet.

Good point, well made. Is there rennet in whey powder? I'd have to look it up.


 
Posted : 21/08/2011 10:19 pm
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If it's come from hard cheese manufacture, then yes.


 
Posted : 21/08/2011 10:20 pm
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i thought it contained rennet


 
Posted : 21/08/2011 10:23 pm
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Rennet= No,no for vegetarians then.


 
Posted : 21/08/2011 10:24 pm
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eggs - yes of course, love em


 
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does your friend take supplements?

I don't think so, not in the conventional weightlifter/bodybuilder way anyway.
There's a bit of an in joke with vegan weightlifters with "Death Shakes".
It's a sort of contest to see who can come up with the best protein shake, usually involving peanut butter, hemp or pea protein powder, flax oil and stuff like that.
Joni's diet philosophy for weightlifting is pretty much the same as mine for cycling. If you eat plenty of everything you like, you'll end up with enough of what you need.
According to my Garmin, so probably not accurate, I've used 11000 Kcal during 12 hour races and 15000Kcal during 24 hour solos as a vegan.
No supplements, just huge quantities of bread, vegetables and fruit.


 
Posted : 21/08/2011 10:26 pm
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ever heard of beans and pulses? it's not hard ffs. ๐Ÿ™„


 
Posted : 21/08/2011 10:27 pm
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There are cheeses that don't contain rennet, but again, as a vegan, I've heard of them but never bothered to find out which ones.


 
Posted : 21/08/2011 10:27 pm
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why bother though graham ? do you honestly need stuff that pretends to be something else?


 
Posted : 21/08/2011 10:29 pm
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Nuts my man and loads of em. As a youthful climber in the 80s I was vegan for 5 years (now just vegie) and couldn't have maintained my muscle build and strength without nuts. Constant snacking on them... It worked, was as fit as a butchers dog (so to speak)...


 
Posted : 21/08/2011 10:31 pm
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There are cheeses that don't contain rennet, but again, as a vegan, I've heard of them but never bothered to find out which ones.

We worked on some of the first commercially made vegetarian cheese a few years ago, it was crap. Hopefully it's come on since then.


 
Posted : 21/08/2011 10:31 pm
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MTG, as a proper vegan, goes up in my estimation most highly.


 
Posted : 21/08/2011 10:33 pm
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it's simple learn to cook beans and pulses properly and in a way that tastes good most veggies cant be arsed and end up tossing about with eggs and cheese and loads of nuts. the best protein for a veggie is beans.


 
Posted : 21/08/2011 10:33 pm
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Veggies have a lot to thank some carnies for, y'know. They're always quick to point out what they can and can't eat. ๐Ÿ™‚


 
Posted : 21/08/2011 10:34 pm
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Don't vegetarians get all the protein they need from the huge amounts of jizz they inevitably swallow?


 
Posted : 21/08/2011 10:35 pm
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Eggs, is the simple answer for a veggie, my veggie mates don't call them 'protein bombs' for nothing.

If you're a Vegan, then what MTG says is most likely to be gospel.


 
Posted : 21/08/2011 10:35 pm
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Fittest person i know is a vegan.


 
Posted : 21/08/2011 10:35 pm
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okay add in low fat to the equation is this possible?


 
Posted : 21/08/2011 10:48 pm
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why bother though graham ? do you honestly need stuff that pretends to be something else?

I don't understand this question. Are you asking about cheese ?

Nuts, yeah I forgot to mention nuts. I can easily get through a 500g bag in a day.
I don't do much cooking, most of my dinners are simple stuff like beans or spaghetti on toast. Simple food, just lots of it.

Fittest person i know is a vegan.

The only person I know who could beat me at both endurance cycling [i]and[/i] weightlifting, although he's a roadie, so it's not a direct comparison, is another vegan. ๐Ÿ˜€


 
Posted : 21/08/2011 10:51 pm
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I don't understand this question.

'Tis a strange question. ๐Ÿ˜•


 
Posted : 21/08/2011 10:56 pm
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i cant for the life of me think what i was on about graham. sorry bout that. ๐Ÿ˜€


 
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