[url= http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-22785282 ]Red Ed This time[/url]
Well at least he finally has a policy (well sort of)
You mean the same Red Ed as helped someone avoid £1.5 million of tax because the money was going to the (morally and financially bankrupt ) Labour Party ?
He also said those in work for under five years may not be eligible for some jobless benefits while those who had worked for longer should get more help.
Seems madness. How about making those who have been out of work for 5 years lose some eligibility? Or a sliding scale of benefits depending on how long they've been unemployed? The longer unemployed, the less they get. Does it work like this already?
I think, rather than being cynical, you applaud Ed for the visionary, creative and truly groundbreaking policy, finally unveiled in his eagerly awaited announcement. At last he has cast off the shackles. Truly revealing the bold, thrusting aspirations we've always associated him with, and his ambitious dreams for the country, and us, its citizens. He's only had two years to put this together, remember...
"We in the labour party are glad to announce our policy. On which we will appeal to the disenchanted of this great Nation. Ahem....well... you know what the other lot said they'd do. Well... that"
"Is that it Mr Milliband? Anything else you want to add?"
"Erm... errrrr.... no. I don't think so. Oh... hang on.... erm... there was something else! Yes! I remember now! If we were to be elected then we'd probably change the chairs in my office. To be honest, I've always found them a bit uncomfortable. And I don't really like the colour
Thank you!
erm....... has David phoned yet?"
Q. Why is there a Labour Party?
A. To create the illusion of choice.
So, good old, bad old, old labour, is dead, and bad old, good old, new labour is back!
Huzzah!
What is the point of Ed Miliband? Aren't Labour supposed to be the opposition?
If you ask Ed he may be able to give you an answer. Once he's had a couple of years to mull over the question, of course.
Nobody else has got a clue. Apart from Dave. Who believes, with some justification, that its all his Christmases and Birthdays come at once
Well we are bust, as he and the other Ed should know, they were there at the time.
And having no money left means there's no money to give out, as I'm sure they're only too aware...
Thursday June the 6th 2013. The day 'Labour' gave up any hope of winning the next election...
Vote for us: we won't do anything different from the incumbents, isn't going to galvanise those who have suffered the most and who are desperately crying out for change. But who can say that they are surprised?
brooess - Member
Well we are bust, as he and the other Ed should know, they were there at the time.
And having no money left means there's no money to give out, as I'm sure they're only too aware...
BS
I wonder what the shadow social security minister will say now when asked about any repeal of the Bedroom Tax?
Prior to this morning's 'policy announcement', everyone has just assumed that Ed Milliband was utterly and completely devoid of ideas, and is incapable of any independent thought process that might lead to an actual policy.
It was thoughtful of him to remove any doubt, then. Dear God. Any opposition worth the name would be running rings around this gang of self-serving incompetents. We really are ****ed!!!
[quote=binners ]We really are ****ed!!!
Well, [i]you[/i] are...
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It's OK the picture helps to take him seriously
Vote for the green party.. couldn't hurt to put some more socially and environmentally motivated mps into parliament
we need more honest to goodness down to earth folk running the place now lilly livered career politicos like nice but dim ed.. that lass Salima off question time last night spoke a lot of common sense without been nigel farange esque..
sure we have no money.. so why not reduce benifits for folk who recieve more than the living wage in benifits.... hang on.. we pay pensions of more than a grand a week to just shy of 900000 former public workers..
Christ- ill be lucky to get a pension of £1000 a month when I retire.. Mind you, that won't be for decades, and I prob won't have a pension by then, despite the tens of thousands I'll have paid into it by then..
But then, that's the way it should be eh? After all- folk in the private sector allowed themselves to be shafted so why shouldn't I be too?
Agree with the comments above though- this isn't a Labour Party any more, just a bunch of career politicians who are afraid to have any ideas different from the current government.. Opposition my arse.
cloudnine - Member
Vote for the green party.. couldn't hurt to put some more socially and environmentally motivated mps into parliament
The trouble is that they do have some good ideas, but also a lot of dubious ones.
For example:
- mandating 40% female board membership - why?
- reducing carbon emissions by 90% on 1990 levels by 2030 and somehow in doing so 'create many jobs' (as opposed to losing them in droves due to being more expensive to run business here after being punitively taxed for using energy etc)
- increasing taxes on mid to large businesses (they'll **** off abroad then and pay nothing)
- removing our nuclear and fossil fuel powerstations (and replacing with windmills?!)
- banning animal testing during development of drugs - we have a large bioscience industry in the UK and lots of small-medium businesses supporting them, this would be damaging to the economy
cloudnine - Member
Vote for the green party.. couldn't hurt to put some more socially and environmentally motivated mps into parliament
Remember the Lib Dems, they were the last lot making policy statements that sounded good but had no idea how to implement them, as they would never get into power.....
Well we are bust, as he and the other Ed should know, they were there at the time.
And having no money left means there's no money to give out, as I'm sure they're only too aware...
Yeah right, the 7th richest country in the world has no money. 😆
The greens in Germany are much more of a mainstream party and have a good contribution to make. I think more greens in the UK would do more good than harm. I agree some of their policies are a little hair shirt and lentil for the mainstream voter, but at least its a shove in a more sustainable direction .
To be fair to the Germans though they have proportional representation so in the last couple of decades the bigger parties have needed smaller ones like the greens to help form a government..
Does anyone else see the resemblance between Jason off the Apprentice and Ed Miliband? They're both about as useful as each other as well.
In most European countries you get more if you've worked for longer, and your benefits go down the longer you are unemployed, so there is more incentive to find a job quicker.
Well we are bust, as he and the other Ed should know, they were there at the time.
And having no money left means there's no money to give out, as I'm sure they're only too aware...
Well we could afford to cut the top rate of tax for people earning over £100,000 a year. Seems they can find the money somewhere when there's the will too
And hasn't George just magicked up a few billion to [s]help the rich fund second homes and buy-to-lets, artificially raise house prices, inflate another housing bubble in the South East, and re-create the perfect conditions for a sub-prime crisis the taxpayer will then be on the hook for[/s] help first time buyers
Priorities innit?
totalshell - Member
we pay pensions of more than a grand a week to just shy of 900000 former public workers..
Really? Do you have a link. Quick google turned up nothing...
But at least some green mps in parliament would help redress the imbalance of the selfish, egocentric capitalist ruling parties. They will never be able to implement their wackiest policies but they have empathy for communities and the environment. How is that a bad thing?
How is that a bad thing?
Because they'll make us all vegans, attend weekly raki massage classes, wear itchy ill-fitting hemp clothing, and have the NHS giving out dandelion seed oil to cure cancer
[i]hang on.. we pay pensions of more than a grand a week to just shy of 900000 former public workers..[/i]
Is that an actual, or just made up fact?
I'm not public sector, just curious as it feels too many.
:“The British people are sick and tired of the way this Government runs the country, and that’s why we promise to do everything exactly the same. There are so many things they’ve ruined, which is why I assure you categorically we will keep ruining the same things. THAT is the exciting prospect we will be putting to the British people in 2015.”
“To show how responsible we have become, we promise that if we win the election, for the first two years we’ll let the Tories carry on as the government."
Just a couple of pearls from Mark Steel on this mornings Independent
banning animal testing during development of drugs
If the alternative is offering up Labour policy drones as test subjects then I'm all for it. Otherwise, completely laughable.
Judging by that list, it's sounding more and more like a LibDem manifesto (ie, we're pretty much unelectable, so we can say what we like...)
Part of the problem is that the alternatives like "nice lass Salma" off question time last night are quite convincing but actually don't have a clue - this was perfectly illustrated last night by the number of facts / basis for her arguments she got spectacularly wrong.
I also noticed last night that somewhat hilariously and completely unaware of the irony, Salma did a boiler plate rant about privatisation of he NHS and the urgent need to stop it yet a few questions later told us her husband is a GP.
He (Aqil Chaudery) is actually a Principal Partner in a large practice and is therefore not only a private sector provider but is also making a very substantial income from his "private sector" involvement in the NHS although this point is clearly lost on her. Presumably it's ok for GP's to trouser anything up to £650k a year partly down to additional service contracts that aren't openly procured but any other form of private sector involvement is somehow different and wrong?
He (Aqil Chaudery) is actually a Principal Partner in a large practice and is therefore not only a private sector provider but is also making a very substantial income from his "private sector" involvement in the NHS although this point is clearly lost on her. Presumably it's ok for GP's to trouser anything up to £650k a year partly down to additional service contracts that aren't openly procured but any other form of private sector involvement is somehow different and wrong?
Are you claiming that a woman should hold the same political views as her husband ?
The greens in Germany are much more of a mainstream party and have a good contribution to make.
So mainstream that one of their policies was to allow adults to have sex with children.