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A moot point as the MP hasn't held a surgery for 4 years or so.
More in common with Farage than I realised!
Has anyone ever actually seen anyone wearing a full burka in the UK? I lived in a predominantly Asian/Muslim area for years and I haven’t.
So in the same spirit, from tomorrow onwards I will be refusing to have any meetings in work with anyone wearing a feather boa and cowboy boots.
I suppose I could go full Farage/Kemi and simply refuse to have any meetings at all, but unlike them that would have a very detrimental effect on my income
So in the same spirit, from tomorrow onwards I will be refusing to have any meetings in work with anyone wearing a feather boa and cowboy boots.
"Siri - cancel meeting with binners"
Pretty unusual to see, but we do occasionally see full burkas in Nottingham and Derby.
Has anyone ever actually seen anyone wearing a full burka in the UK? I lived in a predominantly Asian/Muslim area for years and I haven’t.
Yep, lots. I know it is probably not your style but pop into Harrods next time you are in London and you can tick another thing off your list.
Every day’s a school day, eh?
I wonder if many of Kemi’s constituents in North West Essex buy their burkas in Harrods’?
I wonder which will be the next Reform policy that they mention, only for Kemi to announce as Tory policy a couple of days later?
Hate to add to the prove binners wrong gang but at the start of lockdown when I was examining langleyfelach tunnel shaft I'm sure I saw some burka in a Tesco, I can't remember if it was Swansea or on my way there, but there was a burka.
If I was Keir Starmer I’d turn up for next weeks PMQ’s in a burka, just to see what she does
Has anyone ever actually seen anyone wearing a full burka in the UK? I lived in a predominantly Asian/Muslim area for years and I haven’t
Yes. I lived in Leicester until 2 years ago. It is common there.
I hate to appear to stick up for binners but i don’t recall ever seeing a burka, in Harrods or otherwise. “Burka bans” and the like are mainly performative, since the number of wearers is vanishingly small
https://www.bbc.co.uk/newsround/24118241.amp
Has anyone ever actually seen anyone wearing a full burka in the UK?
Full burka no, but you often see the niqab with just the eyes showing, around Cheetham Hill in Manchester.
Similar to Ossify; burka unusual but I have seen them; many think the burka is actually what is really a niqab and that is reasonably common around parts of Woking, near where I live, or SW London where I work.
Harrods may not be representative of 'the UK' in this respect because so many wealthy tourists / visitors from the gulf states go there - with their burka/niqab wearing wives.
Plenty in Blackburn, although as said above it's mostly the niqab
I’ve seen plenty of people wearing niqab’s but the whole burka thing was quite specific, both from Badanoch and that Reform idiot
I’m presuming this is aimed at the leafy daily mail reading suburbs, where the population is 98.5% white, but they’ve read the stuff on Twitter telling them that parts of Birmingham are ‘no go areas’ for whites
Kemi does seem to rely on social media for most of her ‘news’
“Burka bans” and the like are mainly performative, since the number of wearers is vanishingly small
Well that's obviously the point of picking on a small number of people. Nice and easy.
I’ve seen plenty of people wearing niqab’s but the whole burka thing was quite specific, both from Badanoch and that Reform idiot
I totally agree. I live in an area with a large Muslim population, I sometimes socialise with Muslims due to my support for Palestine, and I have attended meetings in my local mosque that "the sisters" have attended in large numbers. Burkas are not something which I see although I do occasionally women wearing niqabs.
But if Farage and Badenoch mean niqab then they should say niqab, not burka.
I’ve seen Niqab’s, though hardly in numbers - you do if you live in the North West of England - but I’ve never seen a full burka. Unlike Kemi apparently. Though I’d certainly question the legitimacy of that claim
I presume this is just aimed at the leafy home counties suburbs, which are 98.5% white, but where very comfortably off, gullible boomers believe the made up nonsense they read about parts of Birmingham being ‘no go areas’ for whites.
To be fair, Kemi does seem to rely on Twitter as her only ‘news’ source. Maybe she should consider changing that, she won’t, obviously.
This is obviously all part of her doomed mission to our-Farage Farage.
She’ll be booted out in a couple of months, then Honest Bob will try to do the same, and fail just the same
Don’t know why my edited post reposted as a new one there
I work in Bradford and don't see many Burka's. Niqab's are fairly common though. The Burka wearers probably aren't allowed out of the house often.
Not even for a constituency surgery with Kemi Badanoch?
Have to wonder how much longer Badenoch will when be around as Tory leader. No one's even listening to her in reality and that's her issue, she's largely irrelevant. She/the Tories have been completely outflanked by Reform. As much as I detest the Tory party I think I'd still sooner they be Labours main rival for power than Reform.
Never seen a burka/niqab but that’s nae surprise given I live in rural Galloway, I imagine the sight of one in this retirement zone for wealthy tories would lead to a mass hysteria event, and hopefully a few heart attacks
I hate to appear to stick up for binners but i don’t recall ever seeing a burka, in Harrods or otherwise.
Sorry, I was confused between burka and niqab. Also never seen a Birka but have seen many niqabs.
I work in Bradford and don't see many Burka's. Niqab's are fairly common though. The Burka wearers probably aren't allowed out of the house often.
Was a burka* wearing mum running around a play ground after her kids in sunny Buckinghamshire yesterday afternoon, not something I see every day admittedly but it's not every day that I get to go down to the park with my grandson.
* Definitely a Burka with mesh over her eyes, but I admit to having to check the correct terminology
Not even for a constituency surgery with Kemi Badanoch?
Seen it mentioned, probably on this thread tbh that she hasn't held a surgery for 4 years.
What's Kemi going to do when the inquiry into the original inquiry is a cut and paste of the original because all of the inquiring has already been done?
Ask for an inquiry into the inquiry into the original inquiry?
Anything to keep the pot boiling, obviously. Mind you, it is a rhetorical question really. She'll be long gone and a mere footnote in British politics. A pub quiz answer.
It takes some serious front to be asking for a new inquiry when you were part of the government that implemented…. *checks notes* … absolutely none of the 22 recommendations of the last inquiry.
I wonder which other groups she’ll suddenly be developing a newfound concern for that she couldn’t give a toss about when she was actually in power, as part of the government?
A quite eyebrow-raising article in the Times by Kemi. Finger on the political pulse, as ever. It’s proper, full-on, tinfoil-helmet nonsense, including this gem…
That’s why we need to be clear: supporting Israel is not just right — it is necessary for our own national security. Israelis are at the front line in the fight for the West and for our shared values.
She doesn’t specify which particular shared values? Genocide? Starving people to death? Bombing hospitals?
I haven’t seen anything yet to indicate that Iran has an effective ICBM system that can reach the U.K., and I don’t think that we would be a priority target for it, seeing as how it was Diaper Don who took it upon himself to directly bomb Iranian targets.
Although, I do have to say I’m bloody impressed that the Americans actually carried out the operation, including the dummy one, using so many aircraft, and heavy bunker-busting weapons that had never been used in action before, so accurately, and without anyone actually realising the B2’s were even on their way!
If nothing else comes out of this, it should indicate to Putin that he’s maybe not as invulnerable as perhaps he imagines.
She doesn’t specify which particular shared values? Genocide? Starving people to death? Bombing hospitals?
I'd like to see a proper interviewer take her to task on that.
She doesn’t specify which particular shared values? Genocide? Starving people to death? Bombing hospitals?
I'd like to see a proper interviewer take her to task on that.
Proper british values those. Kenya? Boer war?: Irish famine? Not sure we bombed any hospitals but we certainly used starvation as a weapon and got a bit genocidal at times. Irish population halved after the famine
We did turn Dresden into a fire ball, and carpet bombed a fair few other cities, I expect a few hospitals went up then as well.
We did turn Dresden into a fire ball, and carpet bombed a fair few other cities, I expect a few hospitals went up then as well.
Yeah WW2 was a nasty war fought between very powerful armies and all sides involved undoubtedly have moral questions to answer.
But what is specifically being discussed is what does Kemi Badenoch mean when she talks about "shared values" with Israel ?
I think TJ might be onto something when he makes the comparison between Israeli "values" today, in 2025, and British values during the colonial era when Britain was taking land from indigenous peoples to colonise.
I understand that Hamburg was specifically targeted with a higher mix of incendiaries because it was known to be a traditional port city with a higher proportion of wooden buildings.
But, as Ernie says, WW2 was a horrendously nasty war and it truly was a fight for existential survival for the majority of participants. The main exception being the US.
Badenoch just spouts whatever nasty nonsense comes into her head because she still thinks she can win back nasty voters from Reform. And she knows she's a goner in 18 months tops anyway.
Horrendous things were done in WW2 by all sides, but in a very different point in culture and attitudes to what Israel is doing now. (And the Hamas attack was also horrendous. Two wrongs etc)
I understand that Hamburg was specifically targeted with a higher mix of incendiaries because it was known to be a traditional port city with a higher proportion of wooden buildings.
See also Lübeck, my Mum's home town, which was the first to be targeted by a mass bombing raid and chosen for the same reason.
Apparently Kemi did a 45 minute interview with the BBC this week. No… I didn’t watch it either.
It seems that the only thing of note to take from it was when she proudly recalled dobbing someone in at school in for cheating in an exam, who was then expelled
Way to go Kemi! A sure-fire vote-winner as famously, everybody loves a grass. Robert Jenrick must have been dancing a little jig on hearing that
Jenrick flashing his anti-immigrant creditentials,by forcing Thought for The Day on Radio4 to apologise, Philp stalking the migrant camps of Calais like a dress down Child Catcher from chitty chitty bang bang...........
Its almost as if theres only a few months until Badenochs grace period as leader ends and the 1922 letters can start going in.
I expect a steady increase in Tory batshittery as they play to the grimmest , not least from badenoch herself
I expect a steady increase in Tory batshittery as they play to the grimmest , not least from badenoch herself
They've got nowhere else to go now. Unless they go full 180 and install a non-unhinged leader, they're stuck fishing for the nasty vote against Farage.
And, as Labour are finding, you can't out-nasty Reform.
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To be fair to Badenoch she has managed to get the Tories level pegging with Labour in the latest opinion poll out today
https://findoutnow.co.uk/blog/voting-intention-13th-14th-august-2025/
Jenrick flashing his anti-immigrant creditentials,by forcing Thought for The Day on Radio4 to apologise, Philp stalking the migrant camps of Calais like a dress down Child Catcher from chitty chitty bang bang...........
Its almost as if theres only a few months until Badenochs grace period as leader ends and the 1922 letters can start going in.
I expect a steady increase in Tory batshittery as they play to the grimmest , not least from badenoch herself
Id love to meet jenrick, my knuckles would be red raw by the time I’d finished with him
I hadn't realised that Robert Jenrick's seat had become a marginal, in fact unless the Tories fortunes change dramatically between now and the next general election he is all but certain to lose his seat.
I understand that Hamburg was specifically targeted with a higher mix of incendiaries because it was known to be a traditional port city with a higher proportion of wooden buildings
a few years ago R4 played a broadcast where a reporter went on a bombing raid- which was Hamburg.
He described the planning behind it- there was a team that researched the city and its construction using UK university archives and worked out the tactics behind the bombing.
The first wave would be larger bombs to damage gas (aid any fires) and water pipes (hamper efforts to put them out.
Then the incendiaries- the idea was they ignited the roofs as the spaces were open over many properties.
After these took hold, bigger bombs then were to help boost the flames and any shockwave destroy weakened buildings.
I found it to be an eye opener. I was aware of specialist bombs like bouncing, grand slam, tall boy, my Grandad told me about the phosphorus bombs the Germans used (ignited when water was used to put out nearby fires or uniforms were washed)
I naively thought they just loaded a load of bombs as they felt like it, rather then spent time working out how can we inflict maximum damage.
Great news for Kemi Badenoch, Labour and the Tories are now level pegging in the latest opinion poll :
https://findoutnow.co.uk/blog/voting-intention-17th-september-2025/
"Our new Voting Intention tracker shows Labour on their lowest ever share of the vote"
Obviously it is solely because Sir Keir Starmer has made Labour as unpopular with voters as Kemi Badenoch has made the Tories, but it must nevertheless be hugely reassuring for Badenoch to know that Labour are not in front of the Tories.
Btw support for Labour is now half of what it was when Corbyn was leader and the hard-right in the PLP were in open (and very public) rebellion.
the worry for badenoch is the number of (current & former) MPs defecting to reform
badenoch has 6 weeks? before her protected period is up and the 1922 letters can start being sent/counted
the worry for farage is the number of (current & former) Tory MPs defecting to reform
This too. I mean, vote reform get Tory. Again