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She's just over 100 days in and less popular than ever with her own party
With Farages stale breath down her neck, I suspect her bonkers statements will only get worse, the only thing keeping her safe is the absolutely dire state of the alternatives... Honest Bob Jenrick is the most preferred, hilariously Chris Philp is in 3rd
With Farages stale breath down her neck
I wish that was true, unfortunately Reform UK is in front in almost all recent polls. Including the latest YouGov poll out today which puts them 6% in front of the Tories.
https://yougov.co.uk/politics/articles/51638-voting-intention-lab-25-ref-27-con-21-16-17-feb-2025
Laura Trott is straight after him. Just… WOW! A woman who is out of her depth on a damp pavement. On that score, at least Kemi is presently above Helen Whately, but only just
I've not been following this thread to keep up to date with all of her nonsense, but heard her on the news this afternoon backing Israel on its banning of 2 labour MPs from entering the country.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/czjn3071yv3o
Well she manages to completely undermine her own argument in just a couple of sentences. She says that the Israeli government were worried that the MPs wouldn't comply with Israeli law (never mind the irony that it's a government which holds international law with so much contempt on a daily basis) and in the same sentence emphases that "MPs do not have diplomatic immunity".
So what's the problem then? If they were to break the law they would be held responsible.
And Badenoch has managed to draw criticism not just from Labour and the LibDems but also from within her own party:
Badenoch was also contradicted by Tory MP Fuller, who told LBC that Conservative MPs had experienced similar issues in China and he wanted to support the right to travel to other countries.
"I want to support my colleagues," said Fuller. "This isn't a partisan thing, as a parliamentarian, we live in a difficult world at the moment.
"Democracies are under threat, we should support them in those circumstances, whether China, Israel, or anywhere...
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/czjn3071yv3o
Kemi Badenoch says ‘western civilisation will be lost’ if Tory party fails
That sort of hysteria could result in a visit from the Home Office and deportation as it's decidely not British!
Apparently, criticising the Israeli government is now ‘Hate Speech’ and Kemi is making it clear that she’s fine with that
Fair point. There’s something strangely compelling about watching her try to ape Farage, or in this case Tommy Robinson
That sort of hysteria could result in a visit from the Home Office and deportation......
The Shamima Begum principle eh........tell her that she is entitled to Nigerian nationality so her British citizenship has been withdrawn due to her anti-british activity?
I like it and not least because it is a principle established by the Tories.
I'm somewhat reassured that all shades of politics, including some of her own, are calling her out on this and talking about the wider threat to freedoms and democracy.
We need those voices to be more vocal.
watching her try to ape Farage, or in this case Tommy Robinson
The problem is that I am starting to see Nigel Farage as increasingly more moderate than Kemi Badenoch, and that's quite something. Even if in the case of Farage it is purely for pragmatic reasons. He probably recognises how toxic Tommy Robinson is better than Badenoch. And I think she would probably be slower to criticise Trump than Farage.
I never thought we would get to a stage where the worst high profile politician wasn't necessarily Farage.
It’s very odd watching a woman of colour repeatedly demonstrate some kind of weird Stockholm Syndrome where she seems to be getting more and more extreme in agreement with the rabidly far right who, as you noted Ernesto, even Farage has good sense enough to distance himself from
Where she thinks she’s going with this, in terms of making the Tory party more electable, which is her job, is absolutely unfathomable
I cant decide if shes genuinely agreeing with Israel to make the Yaxley Lenon demographic happy or shes just reflexively agreeing because theyre labour MPs, maybe a bit of both
Tory Criticism of her came from one of Strides shadow jr ministers
Itll be Stride vs Jenrick at the next leadership election and i think itll be before the next GE, theyre all on manauvers
less than 4 weeks to the locals, i suppose she'll lean into the extreme even harder untill them
Any sign of badenoch yet?
results as bad or even worse than expected for the Tories
honest Bob will be getting excited....
The thing about the Tory party is that they’re always so predictable.
I’m sure the plans to unseat her are now gathering pace after yesterday’s results. No doubt they’ll completely ignore the seats they lost to the Lib Dems and set off chasing Reform even more than they have been.
A doomed exercise if ever there was one, but one which Honest Bob, with his Poundland Farage tribute act, will no doubt relish. All the nastiness, but not even hidden behind a pint and a smile
I've always predicted that Reform and Farage would end up occupying the hollowed out skin of the Tory Party to have a serious stab at getting elected, but that relies on there still being a Tory party, or a need for it.
At the moment I can't see that a merger with the Conservative brand is necessarily required for Reform to win power. They have managed to toxify themselves to such an extent that it might be better off staying away from them. Especially with Labour offering nothing except diet Reform policies.
I'm hoping they are all in a bunker considering their options.
Pray for rain, perhaps a flood….lets see if the rats can swim
weve all seen honest bobs new weirdly staged video where he goes after the fare dodger for £3.90 (well all ignore that he had to hand back the £12k bribe the Tory donor paid to dodge millions in tax)?
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cvg9r40p749o
i suspect we will see more brand building between now and when the leadership challenge comes after badenochs protected period is up in November
TfL were not happy about that ^^ at all.
I just came here to say that whoever coined the term 'honest bob' is an absolute genius... it never fails to crack me up. good work.
Does the conservative party even really exist any more? they just seem like a basket case. They've been out biggoted by farrages lot, and labour are brining it up the rear with their 'diet reform' rhetoric...that's another corker... I'm stealing that too. 😎
well all ignore that he had to hand back the £12k bribe the Tory donor paid to dodge millions in tax
Dont you mean entirely innocent political donation? The thing that always amazes me is how cheap they are. It was worth 40 million and the "donation" was just 12k. I mean FFS at least go for a proper bribe of a million or so.
Also dont forget his interesting expenses claims around which home was the official one or not and how that relates to him dodging those boring covid rules and regulations.
well all ignore that he had to hand back the £12k bribe the Tory donor paid to dodge millions in tax
Dont you mean entirely innocent political donation? The thing that always amazes me is how cheap they are. It was worth 40 million and the "donation" was just 12k. I mean FFS at least go for a proper bribe of a million or so.
Also dont forget his interesting expenses claims around which home was the official one or not and how that relates to him dodging those boring covid rules and regulations.
I actually thought that myself... £12k is cheap..
I wonder what he'd do for £50k?!
In fact, don't answer that!
What’s the tax situation on bribes? In my head £12k is SFA after tax.
What’s the tax situation on bribes? In my head £12k is SFA after tax.
To be fair to him it wasn't a bribe he benefited from personally, but a donation to the Tory party. The thing I find most offensive is how blatant it was. Tories used to at least have the decency to try and hide their corruption.
More lunacy from Kemi this morning. In a ‘speech’ that just came across as the ramblings of that weird bloke who’s always sat at the bar, it seems its (somewhat inevitably) now official Tory policy to withdraw from the ECHR.
She actually referred to Reform as ‘a left wing party’ 😂
More lunacy from Kemi this morning. In a ‘speech’ that just came across as the ramblings of that weird bloke who’s always sat at the bar, it seems its (somewhat inevitably) now official Tory policy to withdraw from the UCHR.
She actually referred to Reform as ‘a left wing party’ 😂
The main rules of the European Convention on Human Rights (ECHR) encompass fundamental rights like:
- the right to life
- freedom from torture and inhuman treatment
- freedom from slavery
- the right to liberty and security
- the right to a fair trial
I mean, who would want any of that!? 😶
The ECHR also protects our right to worship a Christian God.
Madenoch and Ni Jal Farage want us out so that they can impose Sharia law on hard working British patriots.
They are all part of the muslamic conspiracy.
Be sure to mention this on a regular basis when dealing with Barry Brexit.
Badenoch is basically trying to keep her job more than any pretence of leading an opposition. I'm guessing the Tories will sack her off soon - maybe after conference season the autumn
Lets face it she's been a placeholder from the start. They're just holding out for Boris to come back so they can relive the glory days.
I think a a little bit of sick just came out.
TBF the return of Johnson would probably be hilarious. Watching people like my Auntie explode when they have to choose between 'Boris' and 'Nigel' would be a sight worth seeing. Saying that, Fartage would bottle it I'd imagine, handing the keys to Johnson, which wouldn't be hilarious at all!
I'm guessing the Tories will sack her off soon - maybe after conference season the autumn
The new rules say she can’t be challenged for a year. She’s been in place 7 or 8 months.
I’m sure Honest Bob is ticking off the days on his calendar. He started his campaign ages ago, including his latest hilarious fare-dodger accosting hardman routine
Kemi who?
She's just a stopgap for an irrelevant party - a party which will only regain relevance when it merges with Reform - which will be Jenrick's role.
It won't stop her enjoying the limelight, but she's playing to a very scarcely populated room. Let her have her bit of fun pissing in the wind then she can **** off back under whatever rock she crawled out from.
She's just a stopgap for an irrelevant party - a party which will only regain relevance when it merges with Reform - which will be Jenrick's role.
the farage ego vehicle has no room for other leaders, while hes still around there can be no merger
It's all a bit academic though, isn't it? The center right voters have gone to labour and the extreme right have gone to reform.
That makes the Conservatives politically homeless as far as I can see?
Well, according to Kemi, Nige and co are lefties.
Her speech before was absolutely hilarious. She ran off a roll call of everything she deems wrong with the country then asked, with a straight face “how on earth did we get here?”
To which everyone immediately thought, and the journalists later vocalised the obvious answer… “erm… is it because of 14 years of failed Tory government, of which you were a significant member?”
She’s so clueless, she even sets up the punchlines
Nige hasn’t had the best of weeks, so I’m sure this cheered him up no end
the farage ego vehicle has no room for other leaders, while hes still around there can be no merger
There is no chance of any merger between Reform and the Tories whoever the leaders are.
Reform's entire selling point is that they are right-wing but not Tories. Along with other major parties the Tories are seen as discredited and central to Reform's appeal is the claim that they are not an established party.
Agreeing to a merger with the Tories, which they don't even need, would be highly toxic to Reform and would very likely seriously diminish their support.
Indeed Ernesto. Any possible agreement between the two went right out of the window when Boris (shock, horror….) stitched Nige up to get the Brexit party tanks off his lawn, then immediately renaged on the deal once in power.
Nobody saw that one coming, eh? Boris lying? Whatever next?
Farage won’t be making that mistake again, and why should he?
The only issue seems to be that Kemi seems to recognise the Reform threat (though is clearly incapable of doing anything about it) whereas Honest Bob (who’ll be Tory leader in a few months) has clearly been making noises to suggest he sees some kind of ‘deal’ with Farage being possible.
Good look with that, Bob
Nige hasn’t had the best of weeks, so I’m sure this cheered him up no end
Relative to what.....all the fantastic weeks he has had the last few months?
Yesterday came proof that Reform UK is now a major political party in Scotland. Today the latest opinion poll gives Reform an 8 point lead over Labour, which I believe is the 37th consecutive national opinion poll that puts reform UK in the lead.
Then also this today:
Even a bad week for Farage is very good compared to the other major parties.
I’m not disagreeing with you Ernesto. Everything’s relative, after all
But his party chairman just resigned and the result of the by election proved that the polling was a mile out, hugely exaggerating his support. The prediction from the polling was a reform win with labour in third. The reverse of what actually happened.
Back on topic though, the Tories were nowhere and it does make you wonder about the wisdom of calling the countries media together for a press conference the morning after you’ve just been trounced in a byelection. Especially when it was just to pull a third rate Reform tribute act
The prediction from the polling was a reform win with labour in third.
Where did you see that? All I heard was the claim that although unlikely Reform could win the by-election, which given the result was a perfectly reasonable assessment.
https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/polling/2025/06/who-will-win-the-hamilton-by-election
Britain Predicts anticipates an SNP hold “by around one thousand votes”. Labour should come second. Reform should come third with a large 23 per cent.
Reform actually got 26% of the vote so they did better than the opinion poll predicted.
26% of the vote in a Scottish constituency sounds like something which Farage should be very pleased about.
Yesterday came proof that Reform UK is now a major political party in Scotland.
No it didn't. with a discredited SNP and an unpopular labour 26% ie a similar vote to the tories is the best they can do, It shows that reform may steal tory votes but that it is not capable of winning a seat even when all the stars align. Reform have never won any election in Scotland at any level
Today we have the sound of a mad opposition leader claiming that they will not see any constituent wearing a burka at surgery. A moot point as the MP hasn't held a surgery for 4 years or so.