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Merge in turn should be at the cones, but common courtesy says you should do what everyone else in the queue is doing so if everyone merges a mile up, it's polite to do so yourself.
However, I don't give a flying fu(k about politeness. If someone is blocking the right hand lane, to force people to queue with them, I'll undertake them and flick them the Vees.
If nobody is blocking the lane I'll hurtle up to the cones, pulling the old 'one hand shank' at all those idiots who are queing before they have to.... suckers.
Merge in turn should be at the cones, but common courtesy says you should do what everyone else in the queue is doing so if everyone merges a mile up, it's polite to do so yourself.
Not sure its common courtesy, more like sheep mentality ๐
but common courtesy says you should do what everyone else in the queue is doing so if everyone merges a mile up, it's polite to do so yourself.
Baaaaaa! Baaaaaa!
& just how much thanks do you think the lorry driver would have got if they'd trundled up to the head of the queue & "merged" just before the cones?
That happened to me earlier this week. I didn't really think anything of it to be honest and just let him/her in.
OK on my way home theres a section of dual carriageway which ends at a roundabout, then single carriageway after.
Theres often a long queue in the inside lane before the roundabout.
Using the theory above, people should drive up the outside lane too and merge on the roundabout? This sometimes happens and means the roundabout becomes blocked with merging cars, no-one can enter it from the left and everyone gets cross.
What is teh forum advice in this instance?
Using the theory above, people should drive up the outside lane too and merge on the roundabout?
The theory above only applies to the situation above. You have a completely different situation.
Drive up the right hand lane signalling to turn right, one complete lap of the roundabout and voila, you're merging correctly.
LOL @ the if you see a queue then join it mentality ๐ Must be a British thing
& just how much thanks do you think the lorry driver would have got if they'd trundled up to the head of the queue & "merged" just before the cones?
Ahh I see, so we dictate traffic laws by how much thanks people give now, rather than the best way of working? How odd. I personally have absolutely no problem with letting a wagon merge. In fact I'd have sod all chance of stopping it even if I wanted. If I was a child I might want to.
Using the theory above, people should drive up the outside lane too and merge on the roundabout? This sometimes happens and means the roundabout becomes blocked with merging cars, no-one can enter it from the left and everyone gets cross.What is teh forum advice in this instance?
Use whichever lanes serve the exit (hard to tell without seeing it!). If it has 1 lane exit there is only one correct lane to be in on the roundabout, and likely only one lane before the roundabout. This is just a natural pinchpoint, queueing in other lanes would create restrictions to other directions, and stopping on the roundabout is bad driving anyway as you shouldnt enter a junction without seeing the exit is clear. It is an entirely different situation to the original one I posed.
aracer - Memberbut common courtesy says you should do what everyone else in the queue is doing so if everyone merges a mile up, it's polite to do so yourself.
Baaaaaa! Baaaaaa!
If you are stuck in a line of traffic you can have fun with this by slowly going from side to side in your lane and watch the cars behind do the same ๐
you don't really see many merge in turn signs - despite those multimillion pound reminders to check you've button yr pants
and anyway its should be [i]maintain distance[/i] and merge in turn
like most traffic problems its all the tailgating that causes the problem
a couple of 2 lane to single lane sections near me with signs counting down the merge that you can see from 2 miles away they are that big but some cars will insist on passing someone driving 2miles an hour slower than they are and then force into the car length gap that smallbrained people think is an appropriate distance to drive behind the car in front
hey hoh everyone has to brake
as to roundabouts that merge to one lane wshat really gets me is when people use the right turn lane and then stop dead somewhere short of the roundabout as they try to force their way into the left lane and no its not ignorance of the lane markings/local knowledge
think there was a guy who was banned from using the tyne tunnel because he constantly did it and it showed on the cameras and being a private road he was made an example of
Sorry I wasn't here to answer earlier I have been doing manual labour all day. I know how you guys need my wisdom on driving issues
IMO merge in turn means as you are near or at the coned off area - not half a mile before. sheep all going into the single lane a mile early increases congestion.
Damn - shouldn't have nailed my colours to the mast so early. Now TJ's agreed with me I can't argue with him!
You must have been right for once ๐
So why the M4 bus lane, the theory was that displacing the issue of merging from the flyover to a junction back (J3) up the road, where traffic leaves the motorway would alleviate congestion. It doesn't seem to work though it just moved the problem to junction 3!
Doesn't matter how many instructions you put up. The morons that queue forever can't see past the end of their bonnet anyway. Now if their satnavs told them to merge in turn....
or to move over from the middle lane...
or even better drive off a cliff.
My cousin is a traffic cop, I called him about this last night, apparently people regularly get done for obstructing the highway or something like that for blocking the outside lane on the motorway. They catch them on the CCTV and send a patrol car as it causes much longer tailbacks than the system is designed to cope with.
You must have been right for once
Exactly the words I was thinking of using ๐