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So I've agreed, nay, insisted on making a chili for everyone on new year's eve (travelling to friends tomorrow morning though). It would be easier for me to make the chili in my own kitchen today and transport it to Suffolk tomorrow for consumption on NYE. If I make it this afternoon/evening - both beef and vejumitarian - and the only time it's not refrigerated is in the car journey tomorrow (approx 4 hours), will it be ok for eatin' on Saturday? 😕
Couldn't you just put it in a cool box or something? Maybe wrap it in a down jacket?
I don't think it would "heat" up that much in four hours in a car would it? A cool box could be a good plan actually - but I'm planning on taking them in the casserole dish I've used to cook them in. Might not fit. 😕
Put extra chilli in it. No one will know if it was bad or just to much for ones bot bot.
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Now there's a plan.
it'll be fine. even if it does warm up in the car, it's not problem so long as no one eats it lukewarm.
if anything it will be very good by n.y.e as the flavours will have time to steepen.
yes, i have basic food hygiene training.
Ah, I have the one affirmation I need.
That's more or less what I thought but the encouragement of strangers on the internet helps enormously. 🙂
What would Homer do?
Extra chilli, and add a couple of tablespoons of sugar. Make sure it has cooled and been chilled in the fridge properly before you pack it in the car, seal it properly and put it in the boot not the car. You will be fine !!
It's better to make chilli a few days ahead, it seems to marinade in it's own flavours.
put it in the boot not the car
Depends if it's right above the exhaust which will keep it in the "bacteria zone", though!
can't you freeze it and stick it in the cool box for the jouney?
No problem. It will be better for the wait. If you're still dubious, freezing and defrosting on the car trip (plus a few hours) is a good idea.
If you have some freezer packs put them under the casserole dish. A freezer bag or box would however be better. You could always but the chili in a tupperware tub and transport the casserole dish separately.
If you get stuck in traffic you could end up in the car for much longer than four hours. Food poisoning is not a great way to start the new year. 🙁
I spent an interesting 7 hours with acute diahhorea and vomiting last night from eating out of date pesto......its not much fun 🙁
yes it will be fine - like asking if you left it on the side for four hours could you eat it...that's the veggie one as for the meat like I give a shit but hopefully for you they wont have to either 😉
+1 for loads more chilli, it kills bacteria.
and if anyone has a problem the next day, its not your fault they're a chilli-wuss 🙂
just keep it.cool by.packing.it with frozen peas. then recook it at boiling temp for thirty mins before serving.
I'll be making a vegenemetarian chilli for NYE too. Great minds, or something.
Given that once it's been eaten, its going to sit in a warm gut for 24 hours, I cant see the issue with 4 hours in the car.......
as for the meat like I give a shit
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Your concern for the welfare of me and my friends is, as ever, touching JY. Happy New ****ing Year to you too! 😀
Great minds, or something.
Immagonna go for Great minds. Or something is the more likely though. 😛
Ssh. No-one would ever know.
It will be fine as long as you heat it before eating.
I once made enough chilli for two nights served up the first nights portion, put the lid back on the dish and forgot about it for 36 hours!
I put it in the fridge for the rest of the day & heated it up that evening, the wife & I suffered no strange effects 😀
Now, everyone share your chilli recipes...?!
extra chillis and then keep it gently bubbling away right up until you leave the house.. then wrap it up in foil and loads of blankets and it will still be hot when you arrive..
no problemo amigo
Would it be completely effete of me to say I don't really have one? I just start with a load of stuff and go from there. For the veejumatarienne one, I'll be starting with a good base of onions, carrots, celery, chopped pepper and garlic...then a some puree, then the powder (ground coriander, cumin (lots), cayenne pepper and paprika), dry fry for a bit, then add all the beans...kidney, blacke eyed, borlotti, chickpeas and a tin of Heinz baked haricot 🙂 Then some veg stock, simmer for a while taste and adjust. Add a bit of smoky chipotle sauce and that's about it. Quantities seem to vary on how much of any one ingredient I use though.
If your Chilli has enough Chilli in, then it should be pretty much impervious to bacterial growth due to its sheer toxicity 😀
If they get poisoned, its because there's not enough chilli in it, simples!
If you have some freezer packs put them under the casserole dish.
On top of what needs chilling as cool air sinks. This goes for packing the cool box too.
If your Chilli has enough Chilli in
Amen brother. However, I have other palettes to consider - I know at least two are wusses - so I will be using moderate heat and supplying sour cream or something for the babies. 🙂
I do mine in a wok and it takes about 3 hours.
Fry a kg of mince and 3 onions + garlic, drain off the excess fat, add a tin of toms, chopped fresh toms, courgette/marrow and tomato puree, add cup of water and a sachet of chilli mix, let this bubble away for a while..... Then add some frozen veg such as peas and or runner beans, carrots etc, add some more water, oregano, chilli powder and as many chopped chillis as you can handle, 2-3 teaspoons of muscavado sugar and plenty of cinnamon powder, a few chunks of dark chocolate....add water so the wok is pretty full then keep it on the simmer and let it reduce down, add a few tins of kidney and harricot beans with about an hour to go.
You can put in whatever you want such as shrooms or different veg to bulk it up, awesome on rice and even better the next day on chippy chips and rice. I leave it in the wok untill the next day and haven't had the squits yet, fausty pumps on the other hand....
CHILLI DONE, BOSH!
DD you proper metro sexual...I dont know what surprises me most you having friends or vegetarian ones 😉
Thats sounds rather nice tbh - post me any leftovers if it was actually safe 😛
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I don't think it would "heat" up that much in four hours in a car would it?
Providing it's kept well away from fancy dan heated wing mirrors.
Bizzie ****er! 🙂
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You can rustle up an omelette for the veggies. They should be used to it by now
That'd be funny if it weren't true.
Extensive menu with a ton of different beef / chicken / fish etc dishes on, then at the bottom, "vegetarian option also available." F%$£ off.
Point the first, one dish does not constitute an "option," unless your option is "have what you're given or piss off somewhere else."
Point the second, way to make me feel like a second-class citizen; not only do I have no choice whatsoever, but I don't even get the courtesy of knowing what I'll be given. Allergic to something? Don't like something? Hell, don't feel like something today? Tough, you'll have what you're given. Tossers.
And... breathe.
Tosser[s]s[/s].
That's a bit harsh on poor binbins, but true. 🙂
vegetarian option also available = if really pushed, we'll do you an omelette
I gather you've never been to Eastern Europe Cougar? They regard asking for the veggie option in a restaurant as equivalent to asking if you can bugger their mothers in front of them
An option is 1 choice , if it said veggie options and then offered you only 1 that would be wrong .
Vegetarians have never been so well catered for as they are now .
You should try being a chef and having to deal with all the food allergies people seem to think they have these days + vegans , vegetarians , kosher etc etc + people who don't know what a medium rare steak is and send it back , + kids who have to have special menus featuring every unhealthy option under the sun , why can't they do what the French do and give their kids the same as the adults ?
Does my rant beat your rant ?
Oh and to answer the original question it will be fine , just make sure you reheat it properly . I'm not so sure that chillies have any magic anti bacterial properties .
Option 2 off me would be "just pick the meat out yourself and put it in on the side/my plate"
I gather you've never been to Eastern Europe Cougar? They regard asking for the veggie option in a restaurant as equivalent to asking if you can bugger their mothers in front of them
<nods> in a way we're lucky; the UK is quite forward-thinking these days in terms of the acceptance / awareness of vegetarianism. Shop-bought food is well labelled, and many restaurants do get it right. Plenty don't, though.
I remember once staying at a B&B, came down for breakfast and before I could say anything I got a full English stuck under my nose. I went, er, sorry, no thanks, and the owner reacted like I'd just wiped my nob on the curtains.
I'm going out for dinner tomorrow, and the menu online is a "sample" menu where the one veggie dish they list is something I can't eat. Maybe I should ask if their mother is in instead.
Can't eat or don't like ?
To be honest, I quite like a lot of veggie food (as Cuggie knows...I cook for one most of the time, so I figure I get to cut my meat intake right down, and only eat it out, in a decent restaurant where the chef/cook is invariably better at cooking it than me anyway) and would happily often choose the veggie option on a menu.
However, recently, every veggie option seems to include goats ****ing cheese which despite having gone on a massive cheese journey over the last few years, I still cannot stand. And it's not as if it's a "mild" tasting cheese either. 😐
You can rustle up an omelette for the veggies. They should be used to it by now
True that
i remember getting fish offered as a the veggie option on more thna one occasion
Try asking for a vegan option Cougar - chips and side salad usually- jacket potato at push
I once got a vegan stir fry with egg noodles - they still expected me to pay for it when I was walking out [ flounce]
the pudding is always fruit salad
Can't eat or don't like ?
Allergic to cheese.
i remember getting fish offered as a the veggie option on more thna one occasion
Yes, the obligatory tuna pasta bake. Grr argh.
*adds to list in "How to Piss Junkyard Off" section of STW black book* 🙂
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I reckon the veggie one might even be vegan!
I would need to check your stock though 😉
Kallo. I believe it's Veganistic.
Presumeably the chilli's beef based? In that case you'll be fine, I refuse to accept food poisoning is possible from beef unless it's actually green and moving under its own steam again.
I'm not an authority however so don't blame me if something goes wrong.
The veggies can fend for themselves with their pretendy dinner though, don't care about them.
oh get you [ it is ] - is the other half a health food shopping veggie then?
Jeez JY, it's akshilly me that goes and buys the Kallo stuff. 🙂
Sorry, I misunderstimated you again 😳
when mrs Ed was younger (veggie at the time) and went to italy, the veggie option was pasta rolled around in the bottom of the sauce pan after all the sauce was dished out - vegitarian is no big chunks of meat yes???? 😀
the other classic I've seen is omelettes in france for vegitarians, that have bacon in them
to be safe , cool it down to fridge temperature in under 90 minutes .
when you reheat it , it needs to be piping hot , if you have a probe , above 75C .
beef can give you food poisoning ( ecoli ) .
I cant see how out of date pesto can make you hill , it is full of oil .
I don't understand the 2 pans. Couldn't you just have claimed to have made the proper one with Quorn?
No. The meat eaters have to have some of the veggie one as well. 🙂
It'll be reet.
Still fine to eat if you'd left it on the side overnight... Way too much caution over stuff like this, no idea how so many people get food poisoning.
Just thought I'd add to the veggie/vegan comments of last night. And your disdain for omeletes. We've just watched the Dylan Moran 'Yeah, yeah' DVD, which is bloody funny!!
He's on about having a dinner party when someone announces they can't eat the main course as they're vegan
"Well here's a torch, nip out in the garden and see what you can find...."
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Gawd, that's hilarious binbins.
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Anyone else noticed the irony between the OP's name and topic?
An overdue meal of beans, mince and rice is a food hygiene caricature. Order a pizza instead!
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