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I never said I was a big fan of Kearse but I quite enjoyed his joke about single-use plastics.
The one about turtles? Yawn.
The one about turtles? Yawn.
Stop virtue signalling 😉
You seem quite familiar with his work for someone who dislikes him that much.
Here's Andrew Neil's level of comedy
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-politics-13808361
I always thought Mash Report was cringey at worst and meh at best.
John Oliver done badly IMO.
But my opinion has nothing to do with Gov sanctioned broadcasting supported by millions of Brits for whom ‘cancel culture’ means disagreeing with them on Twitter, while literally cancelling comedy critical of the Trump or the Tories is ‘something something freedom of speech something something lefty brainwashing boring good riddance’
Oh, you've gone back and edited your posts grum. Well at least people now don't have to guess what the turtles joke is about. Not exactly a gem, is it? The rest of his material is just as second rate, if not worse. If your mate was delivering that material, you'd tell them not to give up the day job. And it's nothing to do with being right wing.
Ellie Taylor on The Now Show… does that make it the next likely target?
I just found it meh and it tried to hard.
But occasionally it managed to land one.
Cheers
Utterly predictable.
Welcome to Putin's Britain.
Tedious leftist toss. Glad it's gone. The only time I've laughed at that fool above was when he got bread rolls thrown at him and boo'ed off stage.
You were there? Was it you?
Tedious leftist toss. Glad it’s gone. The only time I’ve laughed at that fool above was when he got bread rolls thrown at him and boo’ed off stage.
Tedious rightist toss.
Edited to say that tories aren't idiots.
Edited to say tories are great
Tedious rightist toss.
Tedious leftists toss. See where this is going? Tit for tat. how do we come to some sort of end to the monotonous drivel? Left cancels right.....right cancels left....etc.
Good point wobbliscott, there's little point trying to reason with Tories, so I have deleted my comments.
They do like their safe spaces though don't they, these snowflakes.
For a bit of balance
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The only time I’ve laughed at that fool above was when he got bread rolls thrown at him and boo’ed off stage.
That must have been barmy.
Tedious leftists toss. See where this is going? Tit for tat.
how do we come to some sort of end to the monotonous drivel? Left cancels right…..right cancels left….etc.
By not starting down that road in the first place?
Cant say i'll miss it, I prefer comedy
I do enjoy how the 'right' can simultaneously complain about PC gone mad and you can't say anything these days but also equally complain about anyone saying anything they disagree with is left won't and should go. Being self aware seems to be a rarity these days.
I think the reason there aren't many right wing comedians is because it's almost impossible to joke about most right wing ideals and policies without just coming across as insensitive and a bit evil.
Being self aware seems to be a rarity these days
I think that's very much the nub of it. Supporting the axing of a "leftie" show but shouting about their own right to be heard, telling people to do their own research and then kicking off if it doesn't agree with their beliefs.
Not just a right wing thing, people on all sides can be guilty of it.
Is it a social media led thing? Does the lack of instant non-verbal reaction when we say or do something dumb remove that self awareness filter? And maybe the isolation of lockdown may have compounded it.
The weird thing is that on social media many “leftist” posters are cheering the end of the Mash Report as well. They were a centrist government mouthpiece apparently. Don’t assume it’s just the right who don’t like satire. And by “don’t like”, I don’t mean “don’t find funny”, I mean feel that those they follow and support shouldn’t be criticised, or challenged, or made fun of.
I think the reason there aren’t many right wing comedians is because it’s almost impossible to joke about most right wing ideals and policies without just coming across as insensitive and a bit evil.
I don't agree. There's absolutely nothing inherently "evil" about right of centre views; that's just an Internet comments thing.
As for the lack of right wing comedians, I've seen that debated a few times. My own view is that (and this is a very broad generalisation) if you split society into roughly right and left, the right will tend to be conservative with a small "c" whereas the left tend to be more radical or rebellious, certainly among the younger ones. That stand point is a far easier one to make humour from.
Political comedy came mainly to prominence back in the 1980 led to a large extent by left leaning students. It's far easier to make jokes against something than in favour of something. You see a very similar thing with music, there are very few right wing bands around. Protest music is very much a left wing thing.
I said earlier that my own views are mostly right of centre. However I love loads of left wing comedy (and music). The very left wing Jeremy Hardy was one of my all time favourite comics and is sadly missed. I also have plenty left wing music in my CD collection.
Political comedy came mainly to prominence back in the 1980 led to a large extent by left leaning students.
More like the early 1960s.
More like the early 1960s.
There were political comics around then but (in Britain at least) political comedy became a big thing alongside the rise of "alternative comedy" in the early 80s. A counter to the Thatcher government it's generally thought.
Alexi Style tells a good story (based to a large extent on truth I think) of going on stage at student unions and all he had to do was put a microphone to his mouth and say "Thatcher's a bastard" and getting a huge laugh. Apologies for my language.
Kennyp I think in a broad way you're right, but I was more thinking about what is thought of as right wing currently and is most represented by those shouting loudest, the racism etc.
but I was more thinking about what is thought of as right wing currently and is most represented by those shouting loudest, the racism etc.
Yes, they are not pleasant people, to put it mildly.
There were political comics around then but (in Britain at least) political comedy became a big thing alongside the rise of “alternative comedy” in the early 80s. A counter to the Thatcher government it’s generally thought.
It became a big thing with the launch of That Was The Week That Was in 1962. It was wildly popular perhaps because it was the first time people had seen comedy used to critique the establishment.
was it not cancelled because it wasn't actually that funny? I'm sure you could crop all the good bits down in to maybe 45mins of TV.
If we ever had a left wing government in the UK I suppose right wing comics could appear mocking the crazy stuff the left wing government is doing and saying. Could be in for a long wait...
If we ever had a left wing government in the UK I suppose right wing comics could appear mocking the crazy stuff the left wing government is doing and saying. Could be in for a long wait…
They didn't wait - David Baddiel and Frankie Boyle had a good go putting the boot in on Corbyun with Baddiel's usual fake victim act.
Baddiel’s usual fake victim act.
Oh dear, DrJ is one of them.
one of them.
Meaning?
Someone who thinks Baddiel isn’t acting in good faith when he talks and writes about the blind spot some people have as regards antisemitism.
Dunno about good faith - I just find someone with his own history of racism (Jason Lee sketches) and inventing evidence of antisemitism (poll finds "25% of labour members believe in worldwide Jewish conspiracy ") to be eminently ignorable on the subject.
It became a big thing with the launch of That Was The Week That Was in 1962. It was wildly popular perhaps because it was the first time people had seen comedy used to critique the establishment.
It did but then died away again, with only a few exceptions eg Private Eye etc. You had the forerunner of alternative comedy with Python, Goodies etc but it wasn't really political. And by the 70s just about the only political comedy was Yarwood impersonating Wilson, "I think I said this at the Brighton conference".
We probably need to agree to disagree.
Two distinct waves of satire on British TV? The second informed very much by the first? Perhaps you’re both right.
(Jason Lee sketches)
Racist at the time (and scarily popular with football fans), and the lack of a modern day acknowledgment and apology shows that Baddiel also has a horrific blind spot, his is as regards comedy and racism. His points about the blind spot as regards antisemitism, that is sadly a feature of many people who are otherwise very attuned to how minorities are let down by wider society, doesn’t make him a “fake victim” though.
Was he ever on the Mash Report? How on earth did we get here?
It's not a left vs right thing, it is more a not being a **** thing. Problem is that the more extreme your politics the more chance you are an insecure little person. Generally these people don't make good comedians.
. His points about the blind spot as regards antisemitism, that is sadly a feature of many people who are otherwise very attuned to how minorities are let down by wider society, doesn’t make him a “fake victim” though.
I'd say his invention of "facts" suggests he is, but I doubt we'll agree.
Two distinct waves of satire on British TV? The second informed very much by the first?
Absolutely. 80s satire was a revival rather than something new. I think it's difficult for us to appreciate how shocking it was for comedians to lampoon the government nearly 60 years ago. Notably, the show disappeared before the 1964 general election: plus ca change...
Hopefully channel 4 will pick it up. V funny show.
Hopefully channel 4 will pick it up.
Arguably it's more natural home maybe?
yeah, tbh if you'd asked me I would have said it was on C4.
Curious to what was right wing comedy I youtubed Leo Kearse. Quite funny in bits but still very tame. Is he not playing at being a “right wing comedian” ?
His bit on the modern SNP was actually pretty accurate.
And was Jerry Sadowitz a right wing comedian??