[Closed] Machine gunning large groups of ramblers? Justifiable homicide?

Miserable git 😐

Miserable gitS FIFY

They'd probably complain about the smoke and litter

Large groups of ANYONE are a nightmare. I hate MTBing or road riding in large groups. And have you ever seen a group of lost Sportive riders milling round aimlessly at a junction all fiddling with Garmins? Like a bunch of bloody sheep but with less common sense. 🙄

I'm sure most drivers would consider machine gunning them as justifiable homicide.

I take it you didn't pass the time of day while they sorted themselves out 😕

just dont stop and scream i have no brakes i have no brakes
IME the faster you are going the quicker they scatter
As they are quite slow at walking you can usually turn round cycle past them then have another go if you failed to get a full strike

HTH

They have taken to walking up the down hill sections at trail centers as well, GT was hotching with them yesterday.

We give way to pedestrians, don't we?

of course we do but that does not mean they can stand in the middle of the BW doing nothing to get out of the way.
Like roads and many other circumstances a little bit of consideration from both sides would do wonders.

higgo - Member
We give way to pedestrians, don't we?

Yes, but walkers have to give way to bullets so it is their own fault if they get shot.

Exactly!!! Now where can I buy an SA80?

Noticed yesterday, all the walkers we 'met' around the bottom of Jacob's Ladder and into Edale were the most sour-faced, miserable looking bunch of red-anoraked gimps this side of the retirement home - not one smile or acknowledgement from anyone, just blank faces and bemused expressions as we said hello. Even my mate commented, and he's a walker himself!

Weds afternoon at Gisburn, At the top of the rise after Simons Swamp and waiting for MsD, heard voices coming towards me..

..Two retired types wandering UP the downhill section on the red route!
Asked them if they were aware that they were going the wrong way on a BIKE ONLY route and they said "we were slowly coming to that conclusion, yes.." Told them they would cause a bad accident and be liable for it if someone couldn't avoid them as riders would be heading down fairly fast not expecting to see people walking the other way, fortunately they both agreed and asked for directions off the trail.

Has anyone been hit due to walkers on the bike trails at Glentress etc?

Hooray finally a non PC attitude

They are utilising all of the available trail in order to minimise the erosion caused by their vibram soled jackboots. You should afford them the same consideration that they will show you when they try to squeeze past you riding two abreast as they drive home at 35mph back to their suburban bungalows and gated apartment communities.

[url= http://www.yorkpress.co.uk/news/9703399.Pedestrian_injured_in_collision_with_cyclist/?ref=la ]Pavements are for pedestrians[/url] and the problem is, if you hit the buggers, even if you're in the right, they get hurt and you get grilled.

Why would yo want to kill people out enjoying themselves??

You'd a bit odd.

Glad I don;t ride near you.

This is the sort of post that makes you want to flounce.... and be free!

Regarding mrdestructo's link, why does anybody riding a bike get classed as a cyclist? Yes he may have been on a bike but he's not someone I'd want in my "club".
I also drive a car, cycle on and off road, walk down pavements and hike. I like to think I have a well balanced attitude to all users and will move out of the way of mountain bikers if I can -they are soon gone anyway, but I would be peeved if somebody was treating a bridleway like a trail centre downhill course. But saying that, I also get annoyed when people(ramblers) stare at you with disbelief that you're riding a bike down "those rocks", and no I'm not going too fast, you are standing still. So what I'm saying is my perspective changes depending on whatever cap(or helmet) I'm wearing that day, so try not to get too upset with other users, and leave the gun at home eh?

Biners, just think of them as poor or not gifted enough to ride a bike,where they have to travel round in groups, all carrying enough provisions to feed themselves for a week should the local brewers fayre be closed, where they all dress the same, big shinny boots,gaiters,and red or blue anoraks, some even cary sticks to fend off wayward animals and cyclists they may encounter,then there is the limited speech they have,along with the usual conversation,which usually begins with "YOU KNOW THIS IS A FOOTPATH",spoken in a slow drawl, just like you may address a child.

If your lucky you may even experience the phenomenom of foot stamping, and the head turning a very strange colour of red, while they gesticulate widely, and bounce up and down.

Feel sorry for them and sympathise with them that they have many social problems we as cyclists cannot imagine, just wave them a cheery HELLO, and be on your way.

Must be a weekend / group riding thing. I ride mainly in the week and on my own. Can't say I have had a single problem yet. I am cheery to them and vica versa.

Maybe I am just lucky

Machine gunning large groups of ramblers? Justifiable homicide?

[u][b]Hell yeah![/b][/u] 🙂

[url= http://www.****/news/article-2143745/Moment-woman-driver-attacks-cyclist-holds-traffic-country-lane.html ]Road Rage on a country lane[/url]

Two cycling incidents in the news today!

Not sure about the anomaly with a woman reporting an assault here. Maybe the despatch officer wrote it down wrong?

When I go past ramblers who block me and stamp their feat...I stamp my back wheel....in a puddle of mud....or cow shit.....and splash it in their faces. Ahhh the joys of being an immature ****.

walk in the country walk in the country walk in the country walk in the country walk in the country walk in the country walk in the country walk in the country walk in the country walk in the country walk in the country walk in the country......stop me if I'm rambling..

poor rant - poor taste

suggust we all live and let live - be nice out on the trail - it confuses the miserable types - plus ROW TRAILS are for everyone

want to go silly fast race / go a trailcentre...

paul

The Highway Code states that we have to give way to people on foot...

I was out today and in thirty miles almost everyone was nice and let me through, the least I could so was to say "thank you" and smile. Nearly gave me an aching jaw...

The only issue was one old giffer walking down some stairs next to the bridleway I was on and just stepped out in front of me and dawdled. His wife gave a nervous smile and rolled her eyes at him though. I can only assume that either his prescription was out of date or that he was a retired council official.

He had an epic combover, so I put that down as a tactical victory.

other people out enjoying the trails that are put there solely for you and no one else, how dare they 🙄

To be fair, anyone sporting such an epic combover on the trails deserves ridicule and persecution.

Nothing compares to the mum's mafia.
Big shiny prams 5 abreast, they don't move for no one.

5 prams abreast on singletrack ?

What tyres did they have ?

anyone sporting such an epic comb-over any were deserves ridicule and persecution+1 😀

Met some ramblers yesterday. I stopped, they stopped, we chatted then parted company. Nothing more, pretty boring really. No abuse, no guns, no bombs.
It must be because I'm such a nice guy when in the company of decent folks...

As above: Collective intelligence of any group diminishes with the number of people contained within it (cf: football). Coming up behind a large group of ramblers (even cooperative ones..."[i]Cyclists.!!?![/i]") is like herding sheep...

I find you get the odd grumpy one (why are you doing it if you don't enjoy it?) but mostly they're a very nice bunch, usually helpful with the gates if you can time it right too.

only time i've been significantly delayed by a large group of ramblers was descending the narrow walled section below Whinstone Lee Tor - about 30 off them - very odd people all pushing bikes up the hill - seemed to be slowing them down - yes a hand grenade would have sorted it

The Highway Code states that we have to give way to people on foot...

I wish the Highway Code stated something like "Cyclists MUST give way to pedestrians, except ones who are clearly complete bell-ends with some weird sense of entitlement or grievance who deliberately engage in games of chicken with knackered mountain-bikers slowly pottering home up the edge of a nice wide towpath after riding thirty-odd miles flat out, also he had a stupid hat and a silly beard, thanks for putting a crimp in the end of an otherwise lovely day you pompous nobber."

Walkers are 99.9% OK so long as you give them space and act nicely. 0.1% of them need pre-emptively chucking in the canal but they're very hard to spot until it's too late.

Has anyone else had teenagers on school trips in the hills shouting at you?
That's always fun. Especially when your chain snaps midway through the compulsory wheelie.

The last time I experienced this on any noticeable scale, I was climbing a forest fireroad, and there was about 7 or 8 MTBers taking up the entire width having a conversation. I literally had to drop off the fireroad, which is like 10 feet wide or something, just to get round them. I gave them a begrudged smile anyways, they carried on their conversation and failed to acknowledge my presence in any way.

I passed them again twice. Second time I smiled and once again they never acknowledged me. Third time I thought sod it, no pleasantries from me and one of them had the audacity to sarcastically shout 'Hello!' after I had passed suggesting that it's ME that's the ignorant one. Had to restrain myself from sharing a few choice words that day.

That's not the first time I've experienced this level of hostility from a bunch of meatheads on expensive bikes either. Yet I've never experienced it from Ramblers. So there's my experience to readdress the balance 🙂

Descending the rangers path a couple of weeks ago on a busy saturday and all, but one were polite and friendly. It's give and take surely, you can't expect people to dive out of your way, although it would be nice and entertaining.

The Highway Code [s]states that we have to give way to people on foot...[/s] applies to highways (although yes, cyclists should give way on bridleways too).

So, you came flying down your favourite trail, and other people made you slow down, just because they were also using the countryside? 0/10 for rant.

Final descent on a Welsh Trail Centre some years ago (can't remember which one) had to stop for an old Granny with a walking stick being helped up the track by what I took to be her middle-aged daughter with bloke in attendance. As I edged past, I mentioned that they were in danger due to it being a Mountain Bike Trail.

I got told that "It's our country and we'll walk where we like".

At that point, I sensed a Darwin Award being unpacked in readiness...

Final descent on a Welsh Trail Centre some years ago (can't remember which one) had to stop for an old Granny with a walking stick being helped up the track by what I took to be her middle-aged daughter with bloke in attendance. As I edged past, I mentioned that they were in danger due to it being a Mountain Bike Trail.

I got told that "It's our country and we'll walk where we like".

At that point, I sensed a Darwin Award being unpacked in readiness...

I had this at the Marin a few years back. As they were in the process of being pious knobbers, a DH hero came flying past and nearly took us all out. I think they got the point at that stage...

United Fan Binners?

Surprising how sociable large groups of any sort can be if one can interrupt one's oh-so-important [i]bicycle[/i] ride for just a minute and make some sort of attempt at communicating.

Ramblers, horse riders - even fricken cyclists. See it from both sides instead of being an arse on a bike all the time.

You have to admit that packs of pedestrians develop a whole mob mentality though.

It's seen in their faithful rendition of The Right Stuff:

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As they refuse to give room for anyone else coming towards or from behind them, even so much in the cities as the outrider walking in the road because vanity and self loathing means they cannot possibly walk behind the rest of the mob.

This psychological issue affects groups wherever they are.

It must be because I'm such a nice guy when in the company of decent folks..

THe only worry I have riding trails is dogs, or dogs on leads.

Often the dog walker hears you (or sees you) but can't get pooch in/under control quick enough. Now I slow down to less than walking pace when overtaking/passing anyone regardless, but often pooch is meandering all over the place on the lead so you can't pass.

But it's a minor irritation really, no need for guns.

See it from both sides instead of being an arse on a bike all the time.

I'm an arse irrespective of whether I'm on a bike or not, I'm afraid.

When I was back off my jaunt yesterday, I saw the same group of old giffers. They were stood, en masse, completely blocking the pavement like a herd of sheep, forcing everyone, including 2 women pushing prams to go out into the road to get around them. Idiots!!!

including 2 women pushing prams

Oh the horror!

*weeps for a minute for the babies*
*weeps for another minute for binbins*

I had a very traumatic day yesterday Bravisimo 🙁

You had a trauma in bravisimo? Were you riding your bike there as well? LOL

I got told that "It's our country and we'll walk where we like".

Love that, especially the thinly veiled racism.

The motorway is also "your country" love, but I bet you'd think twice about walking along that!

The problem is that the general public is made up of morons

Take the bike off of binners and he'd blend right into the group!

Take the bike off of binners and he'd blend right into the group!

I thought the pair of you were a right couple of ramblers myself...quite sexy ones though. 🙂

While the tone of the OP is a bit OTT, I must confess to a similar rant of FB this weekend (more supporting mass suicide over murder) after abandoning a ride around my local loop this weekend, in 5 miles I encountered over 70 walkers, I greeted all with my standard warm cheeriness but the insular, soulless, joyless cold way many (not all) responded (if indeed they responded at all) did defeat me, I knew there would only be more around the second half of my loop, four abreast on a double track and making no effort narrow out (it was a tough climb where often i receive a greeting and some encouraging comments, or cheeky requests for a croggy or something). I decided that it must just have been Miserable king ting Walker day, chalked it up to badluck, went home and played batman instead...

Something about this last weekend did seem to bring them all out, on the flipside a friend of mine was out near Settle and didn't see a soul.

DD, me and binners are DILF's. 😯