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Check this out:

[url= http://www.simondale.net/house/ ]Woodland Home[/url]


 
Posted : 28/03/2010 7:34 am
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Nice roof, although I am extremely unconvinced about his understanding of moisture transfer through the building envelope. I would be very concerned about the longevity of the straw/ straw bales in the roof and floor.
There's some very nice round houses at Findhorn if they're your thing.


 
Posted : 28/03/2010 7:54 am
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That is a truly inspiring looking home... very errr.... gnomic


 
Posted : 28/03/2010 8:17 am
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+1 AP.
This will be prone to damp & rot and infestations. It's a fine idea but will cause a lot of heartache through needing constant maintenance I reckon.


 
Posted : 28/03/2010 9:09 am
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lord of the rings Hobbit house !


 
Posted : 28/03/2010 9:20 am
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Hehe, I loved their "plans" haha, oh how I laughed. Still, better than some architects drawings I get to see.


 
Posted : 28/03/2010 9:50 am
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Straw doesn't retain moisture/attract vermin like hay.

Thatched roofs last upto 50 years and they're in direct contact with the elements.


 
Posted : 28/03/2010 9:57 am
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Seen it before, and really like it. Would love to live somewhere like that, also really like the one [url= http://www.channel4.com/4homes/on-tv/grand-designs/episode-guides/sussex-the-woodmans-cottage-08-05-15_p_1.html ]Ben Law made on Grand Designs[/url].
KT1972 do you think they need a gap and something breathable to keep it dry (well, not too damp)? You get modern houses with subterranean living spaces don't you?


 
Posted : 28/03/2010 9:59 am
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I can't understand why anyone would want to build anything so ugly, inconvenient, damp, and old-fashioned. There are some amazing modern buildings these days, and maybe if he'd employed an architect he could have had a beautiful glass, steel and concrete structure.


 
Posted : 28/03/2010 10:02 am
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I can't understand why anyone would want to build anything so ugly, inconvenient, damp, and old-fashioned. There are some amazing modern buildings these days, and maybe if he'd employed an architect he could have had a beautiful glass, steel and concrete structure.

For 3 grand!


 
Posted : 28/03/2010 10:06 am
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Well if you only spend 3 grand then no wonder you get just a dump that no-one in their right mind would live in.


 
Posted : 28/03/2010 10:11 am
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Well if you only spend 3 grand then no wonder you get just a dump that no-one in their right mind would live in.

Beauty = Eye of beholder.

This will be prone to damp & rot and infestations. It's a fine idea but will cause a lot of heartache through needing constant maintenance I reckon.

I guess living in a place like this is all about maintenance and upkeep - it's a lifestyle rather than simply a house. For us, with regular jobs means that we are short on time and therefore we want minimum fuss/maintenance. If you've got a lifestyle where you are to a large extent self sufficient (would any of us do our jobs if we didn't have to pay rent/mortgage - I'd certainly reconsider)

FWIW I like it - especially their new project.


 
Posted : 28/03/2010 10:20 am
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FWIW I like it - especially their new project.

+1


 
Posted : 28/03/2010 10:40 am
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I'm sure Lady Gresley is being sarcastic ;-D

I think it looks great!


 
Posted : 28/03/2010 10:41 am
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FFS why does everyone think living in old fashioned buildings is a good thing - move on people we're in the 21st century!


 
Posted : 28/03/2010 10:44 am
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FFS why does everyone think living in old fashioned buildings is a good thing - move on people we're in the 21st century!

Some people find older properties aesthetically pleasing and restoring or renovating older properties lessens the massive carbon footprint of the property development industry. Added to this is the statistic that 40% of UK landfill is builders waste making it a highly unsustainable enterprise to boot.
Old is nicer, old is greener, old is for the future.


 
Posted : 28/03/2010 10:59 am
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didnt even know about this new eco development and its only about 30 mins from where I live!


 
Posted : 28/03/2010 11:03 am
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FFS why can't some people understand that some people might want something different to themselves?


 
Posted : 28/03/2010 11:06 am
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[i]FFS why can't some people understand that some people might want something different to themselves?[/i]
That's my point exactly - everyone thinks old and twee is good - be brave and build something modern!!


 
Posted : 28/03/2010 11:12 am
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Good grief what a stupid idea, building something that wouldnt work for societies needs, probably done by some old hobbit living on mine and yours taxes. Who can claim it's cheap if I had to put in 1500 hours it would take me years of spare time. 1500 hours in fact is more hours than the average persons working year.
If everyone was to disapear into the hills and dig holes to live in the countryside would soon be ****ed.


 
Posted : 28/03/2010 11:37 am
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Dales_rider, I agree with all you say!! And yes, I bet they are living on our taxes. It's a complete load of bollocks.


 
Posted : 28/03/2010 11:43 am
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If everyone was to disapear into the hills and dig holes to live in the countryside would soon be ****.

Maybe. Not seen too many of these myself though 😉 If you read the page, I believe the bloke building it wanted time out to raise his kids when they were young. Perhaps they'll grow up to be very well adjusted people, ergo something definitely in societies interests. Of course, they might just grow up to be hobbitses... I met some people doing a similar thing in Australia. Their kids were extremely confident, happy and independent, go figure...


 
Posted : 28/03/2010 11:46 am
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[i]Their kids were extremely confident, happy and independent[/i]
Otherwise translated as arrogant little shits - I know that sort 🙄


 
Posted : 28/03/2010 11:50 am
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I love it ! ....... it's ****ing gorgeous ! 8)

Although sod going for walks near where he lives.....

[i]"It was built by myself and my father in law with help from passers by "[/i]


 
Posted : 28/03/2010 11:57 am
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Jeez..take a chill pill lady gaga....


 
Posted : 28/03/2010 12:12 pm
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I met some people doing a similar thing in Australia. Their kids were extremely confident, happy and independent, go figure...

Well as far as trusting an Aussie as to the state of hapiness of anyone and especialy their treatment of people [Aborigines] who just want to live in a natural low energy environment.
Gobby kids from parents with attitude


 
Posted : 28/03/2010 12:18 pm
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Wow I thought I was angry and bitter. God there are some weird people on internet forums.


 
Posted : 28/03/2010 12:23 pm
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No idea how practical it is, but it looks fantastic to me.


 
Posted : 28/03/2010 12:28 pm
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Dalesrider, you are perhaps not aware that Australians are no homogenised mass. Some are backward idiots, some not. And as a brit making a statement blaming all Aussies for government actions, you're on EXTREMELY shaky ground 🙄

Gobby, no, arrogant no, just well adjusted kids enjoying more freedom than most.


 
Posted : 28/03/2010 1:14 pm
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So the goverment of Australia are not australian or voted for by the Australians ?
Most are descendants of convicts or ones who couldnt make it in there own country. The Genes will out.


 
Posted : 28/03/2010 1:23 pm
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Why is the sofa pointing to the fire & not the telly?


 
Posted : 28/03/2010 1:24 pm
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Three grand?

You could have a couple of shipping containers for that! 😀


 
Posted : 28/03/2010 1:44 pm
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I like their new house
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Posted : 28/03/2010 1:45 pm
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Dales_rider, I agree with all you say!! And yes, I bet they are living on our taxes. It's a complete load of bollocks.

How much?

Otherwise translated as arrogant little shits - I know that sort

You're either a genius troll or a f***wit.


 
Posted : 28/03/2010 2:06 pm
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he could have had a beautiful glass, steel and concrete structure.

Yes, he could, complete with all the carcinogens that are in modern buildings.

Lady G - I'm glad you've noticed it's the 21st century, what a shame your thinking hasn't caught up. Sustainable living IS the future, sourcing your food locally and living in houses that are require few resources to create, maintain and heat.


 
Posted : 28/03/2010 2:41 pm
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Lady G destroying an eco home earlier today.

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Posted : 28/03/2010 4:09 pm
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I love it. Still would love to try something like that. Bugger all chance of getting my mob to live in it though.

Wonder how easy planning permission was 🙂

Maybe I read too many Domebooks in my youth.


 
Posted : 28/03/2010 4:17 pm
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Wonder how easy planning permission was

sounds like they don't apply for permission - just do it and hope that no one complains - after a period of time permission is automatically granted...


 
Posted : 28/03/2010 4:26 pm
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so the future relies on glass and concrete, this would be float glass i assume? have you seen the energy used in the manufacture of such stuff? i assume you are behind the runway at Heathrow, out of town shopping centres, etc.

Sorry but this might not be the future as you want it to be, but the future most seem to want isn't much of a future either. The world has only so much energy to offer in the ways we can use it, yes we can make use of it in other ways but that costs money. You think fuel is expensive now, i don't think we have seen anything yet.


 
Posted : 28/03/2010 4:27 pm
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Yes, he could, complete with all the carcinogens that are in modern buildings.

Lady G - I'm glad you've noticed it's the 21st century, what a shame your thinking hasn't caught up. Sustainable living IS the future, sourcing your food locally and living in houses that are require few resources to create, maintain and heat.


So how are all the city dwellers going to do this ? Get real for FS its the 21st century as Lady G pointed out. If the entire population did this in the UK we would have a patch 4 x 4 Metres.

The world has only so much energy to offer

Energy cant be destroyed we will always have the same amount.


 
Posted : 28/03/2010 5:13 pm
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If houses only cost £5,000 to build it wouldn't matter if they didn't last 1,000 years or even 10


 
Posted : 28/03/2010 5:16 pm
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Energy cant be destroyed we will always have the same amount.

you're right. however, for energy to be in a form that we can use with current technology, it's got to be in fossil fuels.

Here's a fact:

The fossil fuels we use each year took the earth 3 million years to make. it doesnt take a rocket scientist to work out that if we use a resource 3 million times quick than it can be produced, we're in trouble.

While the guys who built this house are an extreme, it does show a number of things everyone can adopt which might help slow our march towards an energy crisis, and may buy us some time while we figure out some alternative energy sources.


 
Posted : 28/03/2010 5:30 pm
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Besides ignoring the obvious fact that we would need to chop down every tree in the country to do what the selfish person did by building a house without planning permission.
and ignoring the man hours put into it
and having the climate and land to grow all our own food
How are we to achieve this utopia which is using a housing system from when the UK had a population of less than 1 million, and its now 61 million.


 
Posted : 28/03/2010 5:38 pm
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Lovely day outside.
Proper first day of spring!


 
Posted : 28/03/2010 5:49 pm
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Dales_rider

and how do we house, feed and employ 61 million people? what happens when petrol is £2 a litre? what happens when the power-stations we haven't bothered to replace have to be switched off?

A lot of whats ifs and buts.

How much energy does it take to raise a cow? how much fish protein to raise a salmon? There are a lot of issues, this might not be the right thing. But the way this country does/doesn't function is not a good way either. We are told house prices are high because we don't build enough, yet you can't build a house because you will almost certainly be in breach of planning or subject to NIMBYs


 
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