How can we not have a GE following this?
Constitutionally, it's valid - they're talking about it on BBC now.
why bother, not a single one from any party is capable
See, this is the beauty of Conservative rule... it can persuade us, with the help of the media... that "they're all the same"... and opposition politicians get tainted with all the failures of the Tories being in power. Time to kick them out and give others a try.
I'm hearing* Rishi running for PM, Mordant deputy PM and Hunt as Chancellor.
*son has uni friends with Tory contacts.
Quick! Jacob Rees Mogg! Now’s your chance… 8-0
I would love to see him given the job voted in ,then destroyed in the same way as Truss,but I fear him and his millions of pounds couldn't give a toss.
Meanwhile the world looks on in bemusement at the UK Gov soap opera.
I hope they have checked the Westminster basement for any stored fireworks.
They'll never vote rishi though.
The lettuce wins!
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I’m hearing* Rishi running for PM, Mordant deputy PM and Hunt as Chancellor.
Looks like it'll be those three... they should probably shuffle it up if they want to keep their party members on side though. Sunak as PM is less of a unifying proposal than having him back as Chancellor and Mordaunt as PM. Hunt to FCO or HO. No way he's going to be PM... that's why he's got the "bridging" role he has now.
They’ll never vote rishi though.
It should be obvious by now. There will be no party member vote. Mordaunt and Sunak, and one will step down before the vote. See May. Rishi will be the next PM.
So now we'll have the wonderful situation of no action take against those who didn't vote no yesterday and those who did getting hammered in the polls if there is an election. It's difficult to imagine how you could screw things up more
and, I wish someone had slapped that smug look before she went. Just for the smugness, nothing else
So, we've got to go through this leadership debacle again, weeks of each other slagging each other off, then some other nobber getting in. Fab.
Pity the Carry On crew aren't still going - Carry on Minister !
Unless of course Labour is going to create new “energy” from thin air
That's the plan, lift the ban on onshore wind farms and ramp up solar generation.
Brexit was and is a symptom and not the cause.
No Brexit really is the cause of a lot of our problems, increased trade tariffs, loss of a committed workforce, increasing racial intolerance, lower investment in the UK. The vehicle of small minded xenophobic and blinkered people on the right and the left.
Whoop she's gone. My wife had a go at me last night for following all this too closely, especially as I did the same with Johnson's exit. She rather forcefully reminded me to be careful what I wished for, but it can't actually get any worse can it, of course it can.
Like Pritti, that could be her natural face-look.
It should be obvious by now. There will be no party member vote.
I was talking about the MPs....
So, we’ve got to go through this leadership debacle again, weeks of each other slagging each other off, then some other nobber getting in. Fab.
Only this time it'll (mainly) be behind closed doors with little public interaction.
No Brexit really is the cause of a lot of our problems, increased trade tariffs, loss of a committed workforce, increasing racial intolerance, lower investment in the UK. The vehicle of small minded xenophobic and blinkered people on the right and the left.
This, 100% this.... Operation fear in fruition
What a time to be alive barely able to meet rising costs, heat my home and pay for food!
No Brexit really is the cause of a lot of our problems,
all of our problems i reckon.
we are ****ed, and no amount of grovelling will get us back in the club.
we bring **** all to the table.
Guessing that sunak/mordor/hunt combo was set even before hunt arrived as chancellor, it was fairly obvious especially when Shapps rocked up too.
As said above, no need for the pesky members to be involved if all but one of the candidates takes a step back nefore the 'voting' starts.
Real or not this is not the time to deal with that.
I'd say that this is *exactly* the time to be dealing with it!
The time to deal with the climate disaster was 50+ years ago.
The best time, yes.
But the currently available best time is RIGHT NOW.
And not in 2 years time.
We need a general election NOW.
The Tories need to drop their IEA pro-fossil fuel nonsense completely in the next week if they want to survive that election and stay a major force in UK politics.
As said above, no need for the pesky members to be involved if all but one of the candidates takes a step back nefore the ‘voting’ starts.
None of them capable of uniting the party and coming up with any answers to the energy crisis, cost of living crisis and the overall task of righting the rudderless ship HMS Great Britain as it founders on the rocks.
This country is absolutely ****ed for a generation now.
So farewell then, Liz Truss.
Lasted 6 weeks,
then thrown under a buss.
Brady just said members will be voting. I think we all know that's not going to happen. So they're f***** over their members too.
Well I only joined the Labour party a couple of hours ago and I have already brought down the PM!
then thrown under a buss.
She was driving a mad clown bus and drove herself off the edge of a cliff.
Crazy-legs, you underestimate the tories. Sure, they won't give a stuff about us plebs, climate etc but if they can see the gravy train is ending I'll bet they bite their lips and put on a united face to save their own skins for the next two years and asset strip as much as they can before they can't avoid the GE
I mean, I'd love to see the tories implode with infighting as much as the next one but horrible feeling that experiment is over. Sunk will likely improve the polls slightly and they'll all fall in line behind him publicly
Please tell me she won't qualify for the pm pension.
all of our problems i reckon.
It isnt though.
The problem is the fracturing on the right and systematic failures across the board which led to people voting for brexit.
Whilst rolling back brexit would solve quite a few things it would still have the underlying problems which led to it being considered as an option in the first place.
Brady was being called a lier by more than on jurno when he turned his back.
Should have gone last Friday with the chancellor. Having crashed the economy they should have both headed for the cliff.
Just for perspective, the BT pension fund lost £11bn of assets in the gilts chaos. That's just one fund. And it is real money.
Brady just said members will be voting. I think we all know that’s not going to happen.
Dunno. They might just be careful in the choices they give them. I did think they could put Putin as the alternate but he would probably stand a good chance of winning given the electorate.
Whoever becomes the next PM by the sheer fact they want the gig, at the current time, means they are not fit for the job.
Fighting to be King of a bowl full of dust.
agreed Poopscoop
You blamed Brexit further up the thread. Anyway, I’d better stop feeding the troll.
I blamed Brexit? Are you having a laugh?
I suggest you read all the threads that I have been saying about Brexit since Brexit. I have been consistent throughout and NEVER once blame Brexit.
Brexit, Covid-19 and Ukraine/Russia war are the contributing factors.
But if you read carefully you will realise that I mentioned about energy crisis. Brexit is NOT an energy crisis but a bureaucratic one (EU side).
Brexit is NOT an energy crisis but a bureaucratic one.
Actually it's an existential crisis in the politics of this country. COVID was priced into the markets, Ukraine was priced into the markets, and so was the fallout for increased energy prices. What was not priced is two free-market right wing loons deciding a unilateral uncosted fiscal policy. That and that alone was enough for them to go. That they both got there by Brexit ideology (PM was a retainer remember) just defines the magnitude of the political challenge we face as a country.
Brexit, Covid-19 and Ukraine/Russia war are the contributing factors.
So you're blaming Brexit, the Pandemic and Putin? I would as well, to a large degree... that plus the tools we charged with running the UK. But then I'm not one of these "Strong Leaders" you obsess over and claim don't discharge blame away from themselves and towards others (when often that's all they do).
Krishnan Guru-Murthy has been taken off air for a week by Channel 4 News after he was recorded using an offensive insult about a government minister.
From c4.
another casualty of all this I hope he gets back on the tv
Boris Johnson said to be considering running!
So you’re blaming Brexit, the Pandemic and Putin? I would as well, to large degree… that plus the tools we charged with running the UK. But the I’m not one of these “Strong Leaders” you obsess over.
No, I am NOT blaming Brexit. That would be as silly as saying the energy crisis is not related to the Ukraine/Russia war. The sequence of contributing (accumulating) factors are all difficult events to handle but it is the energy crisis (called it crisis because the backup is limited) that brings the reality home.
Yes, most of the opposing views just refuse to accept that the Ukriane/Russia is the nail.
I say strong leaders because the current lot (all parties) do not have someone that can actually solve the problems. Mind you very good at blaming though.
Putin's war is affecting every and all countries. What's different about the UK...?
Krishnan Guru-Murthy has been taken off air for a week by Channel 4 News after he was recorded using an offensive insult about a government minister.
Was funny though
Public Enemy called this in 1991: https://open.spotify.com/track/5r5uZvXHbE4X6CdhnSATtX?si=95a5641eded040c4&nd=1
Can't Truss It
Putin’s war is effecting every and all countries. What’s different about the UK…?
Yes, affecting many countries but it is here (on this STW forum) that we "debate" about it, while the government is in denial that the plan has backfired.
another casualty of all this I hope he gets back on the tv
I look forward to the normal right wing nuts shouting about cancel culture and snowflakes.
while the government is in denial that the plan has backfired
Which plan? Hang on.. why am I engaging... I'm stopping now.
Krishnan Guru-Murthy has been taken off air for a week by Channel 4 News after he was recorded using an offensive insult about a government minister.
Just shows we’re living in a post-truth world 🙄
Which plan? Hang on.. why am I engaging… I’m stopping now.
Sanctions on a country (Russia) that has a strong position in energy contribution. Take them out and the effect will be felt in a domino way.
Engaging? More like denial but that's individual's choice.
Let's see if critics have a solution out.
