salad_dodger
Excellent resignation letter!
Going to disagree. It's self-centred, self-righteous and self-serving. Yes, it does twist the knife a bit, but sadly it's exactly what I'd expect from any of the current crop of underachievers - totally without vision, empathy, or thought of anything other than saving their own precious little arse.
see the pound is heading south again....
Looks to me like a deliberate mistake, possibly relatively minor, which she has engineered to allow a 'principled' resignation and then immediately lay into truss.
matt_outandabout
Full Member
“Security”?*raises eyebrow*
Posted 18 minutes ago
Shame that was at the bottom of the previous page, the Blackadder reference deserves a 👏👏
This is bloody epic.
The Tory's are tearing themselves apart, in real time, as we watch on.
Starmer might as well go on holiday for a while and let them crack on.
The Brexiteers on Twitter are having a meltdown!
I will type it again Chris grayling anyone???
Special adviser
The Tory’s are tearing themselves apart, in real time, as we watch on.
for the second time in six months
Looks to me like a deliberate mistake, possibly relatively minor, which she has engineered to allow a ‘principled’ resignation and then immediately lay into truss.
You think she’s that smart??!
The BBC selection of interviews with Tory members up there ^^ is interesting. Most of them are just talking about the consequences for the party. They seem unconcerned with the consequences for the poor and vulnerable people of the country.
They seem unconcerned with the consequences for the poor and vulnerable people of the country.
Well, duh. They're Tory party members. Way past the 'developing a social conscience and empathy for others' stage.
Ms Coffey, in her role as the the reincarnation of Bernard Manning, threatened Nurses with replacing them with migrants if we decide to strike.
Can't imagine that went down well with Swella.
threatened Nurses with replacing them with migrants if we decide to strike.
Amazing isn't it how we don't want any migrants coming over here taking Proper British Jobs (while also simultaneously scrounging all our benefits), yet the minute there's any threat of disruption, we're looking to them to save the day...
I wonder if any of the Tories see that slight disconnect?
She also told nurses to leave the profession if they need to earn more. In the middle of an NHS staffing crisis; and a cost of living crisis. She’s scum. Destructive, dangerous, uncaring, useless scum.
That poor copper on the door of number 10 must be dizzy with all this in/out going on.
Good comment on Twitter, I can't embed for some reason:
To the comments saying events in government are a ‘remainer coup’
You had it all. You got your Brexit. You got the keys to the kingdom. You had all the pieces on the board. And in response, the pound and economy verged on collapse.
It’s not a coup, it’s a damn rescue operation
Tofu anyone?
https://twitter.com/TomHourigan/status/1582771704165961728?t=MEj6bhQb0eo3NRibZ9GYFw&s=19
So let me get this straight as I've been keeping away from news sources for a few hours:
If Tory MP's vote against the Labour motion they're breaking a Manifesto promise and voters will be royally pissed off with them which won't go well and they'll most likely lose their seat come the next election.
If Tory MP's vote for the Labour motion then they will have their Whip removed, it'll be seen as a VONC in Truss and they will risk alienating voters even more while they find a new leader and they'll most likely lose their seat at the next election.
Both options have the same outcome for them but have massive ramifications for everyone else. Sweepstake on how many abstain?
More than that… Labour get a chance to take control of the order paper if they can win the vote, and start putting a fracking ban into law… which means more votes on it for Tories to rebel and vote for what they promised in 2019. The opposition have properly outplayed them, from a position of facing a government with a big majority.
Crisis, what crisis?
I drove 180 miles on Tuesday, transporting patients whist supposedly second in charge of a secure mental health ward.
11 hours out of a 12 hour shift.
I watched an A&E Doctor break down in tears in a packed waiting room where one elderly lady had been waiting 12 hours to be seen for a possible stroke.
I comforted a lad with severe mental issues whilst he watched his father die.
I took another lad with an urgent, life threatening condition to be seen at a local hospital, where the staff had to decide who to see first and who to leave outside in an ambulance, because of staff shortages.
I came home and turned on the telly to see this woman tell me that she genuinely didn't care about any of it.
How do you think I'm voting?
@ reluctantjumper
If they abstain they still lose the whip I think. They have to vote "NO*".
*Caps as used in the leaked memo.
Yup, three line whip… vote against (the thing you promised to vote for) or lose the whip.
dander - no, not smart; definitely conniving.
Under a three line whip, abstention is generally viewed by whips as comparable with voting against.
Will be a very interesting result.
When is this fracking vote?
More than that… Labour get a chance to take control of the order paper if they can win the vote, and start putting a fracking ban into law… which means more votes on it for Tories to rebel and vote for what they promised in 2019. The opposition have properly outplayed them, from a position of facing a government with a big majority.
Didn't realise that, that is sublime.
Thank you @RustySpanner , we all need you and your colleagues. Sorry that as a country we’re taking advantage of your sense of duty of care for others. Let’s hope we can change that. You shouldn’t have to listen to scum like her from a position of power like that. She can’t be got rid of a second too soon in my opinion.
When is this fracking vote
7pm
Seems to be just the sort of thing that a party suffering from the Trussmania would do.
Sorry to come across as a moaner, but WE HAVE NO STAFF.
I love my job more than I can possibly explain, but NHS staff are dropping like flies. They just can't cope anymore.
And to watch the Government delight in their ideology of suffering just makes me feel so powerless.
I don't care what it takes to get these people out of power.
I'll vote for strike action, but if it comes to it, we can't leave people to suffer.
What's left? Violence? I just don't know anymore.
With a no opposition to represent us it's down to the people to represent themselves.
Striking is democracy.
Great video here from Adam Smith, on the future of Politics:
What’s left? Violence? I just don’t know anymore.
Striking is democracy.
It really does seem to be heading that way. When you watch people shouting at protesters such as the Just Stop Oil folks and saying things like 'why don't you write a letter' or 'sign a petition ' or even 'become an mp and change things' they just don't understand how broken everything is
Oh mate, I know.
But how can we strike?
We don't have the staff to cover striking workers and the Government knows it.
If Tory MPs vote with Labour, they could lose the whip - meaning they will have to sit as independent MPs.
That could well be about to happen to a number of MPs, some of whom have already stuck their head above the parapet to say they will vote against the government.
That's from the BBC coverage. Now if I read this correctly does that mean that if enough MP's abstain or vote No and have to sit as independent could that trigger a general election?
What’s left?
Not much more of this Tory government.
Just when you think things couldn't possibly get worse for them it does.
Edit: The Tory chief whip has just resigned.
From the BBC:
Massive row between Tory MPs, claims Labour's Jess Philips
Labour MP Jess Phillips has just said in a tweet that there's a "massive row" between Tory MPs in the voting lobby at Westminster.
This is worse than anything Bozo managed to f*ck up.
They can’t enforce a three line whip when the chief whip has just resigned.
This is ****ing hilarious!!! 😂
or lose the whip
What does this actually mean? From the post above it looks like the party has lost their whip (lol) but what does it mean for an individual mp to lose the whip?
Anyone had a phone call from the tories offering them the job yet?
I have ticket no. 99. I think I get Christmas week. There will be new bikes for all, all will ride them. There will also be a cycle lane building programme (no paint allowed).
what does it mean for an individual mp to lose the whip?
They stay as an MP but not affiliated with a party. So they're independent.
I guess they could then join another party couldn't they?
Wow, it really Lockheed off at the vote apparently!
From the post above it looks like the party has lost their whip (lol) but what does it mean for an individual mp to lose the whip?
In means you are no longer considered an MP for that party (although you could still be a party member) but instead are an independent MP.
Short term not sure how much difference it makes day to day. You would lose the party support and get kicked off the committees but dont know beyond that how severe the impact would be.
The main part is that come next election you cant stand as their candidate.
