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Truss told a very dangerous lie in 2 interviews today

She is wrong , bills are not capped at £2500

https://twitter.com/MartinSLewis/status/1575073078119235584?t=wPkQPjDe6oOzY9yX9cVhSw&s=19


 
Posted : 29/09/2022 10:22 am
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Yup.

https://twitter.com/cjfdillow/status/1575393644466651136?s=21


 
Posted : 29/09/2022 10:23 am
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He’s just another Public School, born to rule Tory with a despicable voting record on the NHS, Welfare and Tax.

Not quite accurate. Read his books, look at what he was doing in his 20's and 30's and you will realise he has a better understanding of how the world works than most of us ever will. He genuinely is a world leading expert on the middle eat and on international and economic development (he is a fellow at Yale). He has spoken about his voting record and explained the whip system extensively. He was forced to vote for things he did not agree with to ensure he still got funding for his constituency and ministerial department. He hated that but at least he has explained it. He is a fascinating guy and potentially the best Prime Minister we will never have.


 
Posted : 29/09/2022 10:25 am
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Rory Stewart is quite likeable.

Like many former MPs he's now able to express opinions that would've been unwelcomed by party whips. As @trailmonkey suggests, he still voted with his party for some pretty harmful outcomes


 
Posted : 29/09/2022 10:35 am
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He is an intelligent and interesting chap for sure.


 
Posted : 29/09/2022 10:36 am
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He has spoken about his voting record and explained the whip system extensively. He was forced to vote for things he did not agree with to ensure he still got funding for his constituency and ministerial department. He hated that but at least he has explained it

Sort of like saying ' Sorry I had to punch you in the face and nick your bike but my brother needs a new one and he's bigger than me.'


 
Posted : 29/09/2022 10:38 am
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Still a tory tho. It shows how debased our politics has become that he seems so good and moderate

John Smith is the best prime minister we never had.


 
Posted : 29/09/2022 10:38 am
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Anyone seen any evidence what so ever of how we move the low paid into high paid jobs as she's prattling on about?

Im keen to tell my brother when he'll be able to ditch his job as an agricultural labourer so he can become a junior in the financial sector


 
Posted : 29/09/2022 10:45 am
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Lot of time for Roy Stewart, very considered fella.
he was kicked out of the leadership contest because he couldn't help be honest and answer complicated questions with complicated answers (or say couldnt give an immediate answer as there was so much to consider) and people didnt have time for that. thats exactly the sort of politician we need


 
Posted : 29/09/2022 10:47 am
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Rory Stewart was my constituent MP. I am naturally slightly left of centre so he was quickly known as Rory the Tory in our house. I was a bit pissed off that another candidate was helicoptered in to a safe seat as well.

In time I met him twice and was surprised that we had a lot of shared views. He actually worked really hard for the area unlike the new guy Neil Hudson who just takes credit for things that other people have done. As a working politician I had a lot of respect for Rory.


 
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Also apparently im going to be " encouraged " back into employment. Dunno what job im supposed to do tho with a body and mind damaged by 40 years no nursing but hey ho. Bicycle courier?


 
Posted : 29/09/2022 10:48 am
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Still a tory tho.

Have a listen to his and Alistair Cambels podcast "rest is politics". He comes across exceptionally well.

However to paraphrase, It shows how tribalism our politics has become that people automatically dismiss someone purely because of the colour of their rosette.

(To clarify I have never voted Tory, and going from the current lot in power never could. But I would vote Rory into power, whatever colour of his Rosette.)


 
Posted : 29/09/2022 10:48 am
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She is wrong , bills are not capped at £2500

I thought that this was widely understood until earlier this week and I had to correct quite a few people. They actually thought the was an absolute energy cap. Fairly well educated people too.


 
Posted : 29/09/2022 10:51 am
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that people automatically dismiss someone purely because of the colour of their rosette.

If someone had a red rosette and his voting record, I'd still think of him in the same way.


 
Posted : 29/09/2022 10:54 am
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Its not tribalism

Its understanding that the Tories exist for one reason only. To keep power and wealth in the hands of the powerful and wealthy.

Yes the one nation conservatives realise they have to keep the rest content and look after them in a paternal way but no tory will ever redistribute power and wealth in any significant way.


 
Posted : 29/09/2022 10:54 am
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🤦‍♂️

https://twitter.com/PippaCrerar/status/1575403248026017794


 
Posted : 29/09/2022 10:55 am
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Those local radio interviews are excellent. She thought she would get an easy time and just had her arse handed to her by multiple Alan Partridges.

James O'Brien is going to be good this morning.


 
Posted : 29/09/2022 10:56 am
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My favourite of the clips I've heard so far, Rima from BBC Radio Leeds icily asking her if she slept well, naive Liz saying actually, she did, thinking 'this is going to be a nice one', then getting absolutely nuked...

https://twitter.com/OwsWills/status/1575382219564240897


 
Posted : 29/09/2022 11:02 am
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How longs she got? Knives are out already no?


 
Posted : 29/09/2022 11:04 am
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Its not tribalism

Its understanding that the Tories exist for one reason only. To keep power and wealth in the hands of the powerful and wealthy.

No, that's very much tribalism, of the straw man variety.


 
Posted : 29/09/2022 11:08 am
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Itsnot dude. Its understanding reality. If i was tribal i would only ever vite for one party no matter what. I don't.

What other purposes does the tory party have?


 
Posted : 29/09/2022 11:10 am
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Simply changing all the rules and having another tortuous leadership election, followed by the crowning of another halfwit by a handful of elderly racists, isn't going to appeal to those who will be doing the knifing.


 
Posted : 29/09/2022 11:10 am
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Fairly well educated people too.

Lots of people fail to grasp how the domestic energy “market” works. But they aren’t Prime Minister at a time when it is a crucial issue for most of the country. If she’s not across this brief, one she is guaranteed to be asked about at this time, what hope does she have on other important but perhaps less pressing, current or talked about issues?

Oh, and the Tories aren’t asked often enough why our bills are all going up when they are claiming they are frozen (they aren’t frozen, the cap has gone up), yet they are having to borrow far more to fund their policy than if they’d adopted Labour’s that would have seen all our bills lower this winter than their plan does.


 
Posted : 29/09/2022 11:10 am
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She is completely bonkers isn't she. All the shite she spouted to become leader is actually what she believes...she thinks cutting corporation tax and tax above 150k will improve wages for those in Stoke.
Mental 🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪


 
Posted : 29/09/2022 11:12 am
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Tinas

Name a single tory policy that does not act to concentrate wealth in the hands of the powerful and wealthy?


 
Posted : 29/09/2022 11:13 am
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Also apparently im going to be ” encouraged ” back into employment.

@tjagain It's obvious to me that future employment is a cycle tour blogger. You just need a company, a social media presence and to pay [limited] tax on your influencer and Patreon dollars.


 
Posted : 29/09/2022 11:14 am
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Anyone enjoying Truss’ local radio jamboree? Radio Kent winning so far on giving her a roasting, but kudos to BBC Lancashire for stumping her when asked if she’d actually go to the fracking site.

It was quite funny listening to 'today' on the way to work.

Obviously R4 get sent a very defensive treasury secretary to interview and trot out the same cut 'n' past comments about "tackling Energy prices/Putin's war/Growth/BOE independence" and definitely not address everyone dealing with inflation/interest rates/pension funds/Mortgages...

All the while Nick Robinson is just listening in on the various BBC local stations to pick out "the best bits" of all the interviews Liz is doing because she's too scared of going on national radio, so he can re-broadcast her, on national radio...

The net result; a government that is trying to duck exposure in the media actually manages to double their on-air presence during rush hour.

Anyone offering odds on Truss still being PM in 6 months?


 
Posted : 29/09/2022 11:17 am
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Radio Nottingham - "People were worried whether they could heat their homes. They're now worried whether they can keep their homes."


 
Posted : 29/09/2022 11:20 am
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They just played a compilation of her ‘best bits’ on Five Live. It was accompanied by the sound of all the press officers at Tory Central Office sobbing

I like the second or so of dead air at the end of each question as you literally wait for the cogs in Lizzies head to grind slowly into motion


 
Posted : 29/09/2022 11:23 am
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Eaten alive by local radio presenters although they may have all got together beforehand to lay the traps.
Anymore radio silence and the nuclear war protocols would have kicked in. Haunted Dancehall anyone!
Like him or not Andrew Neal would dismantle her.


 
Posted : 29/09/2022 11:23 am
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So, who will they put in place to fight the next general election? There is no way Tory MPs will let her lead them into that.


 
Posted : 29/09/2022 11:25 am
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What other purposes does the tory party have?

The Yin to the Labour parties Yang, to provide a democratic alternative that proposes that the free market does things better than public ownership, that government intervention doesn't always work, etc, etc. You don't have to believe it to believe that those views have a right to exist too, and that they may well be the right ones at certain times in the economic cycle.

Does the SNP solely exist to gain more power for itself? That is their #1 objective after all. You could very much paraphrase yourself here:

"Yes the Scottish Independents realise they have to keep the rest content "

If i was tribal i would only ever vite for one party no matter what. I don’t.

And yet you're making out that the only two viewpoints anyone could possibly hold are either the moderate left or Britannia Unchained.


 
Posted : 29/09/2022 11:26 am
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I can't believe Johnson will be remembered as 'well, he wasn't the worst...'

JFC


 
Posted : 29/09/2022 11:27 am
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Anyone offering odds on Truss still being PM in 6 months?

On present form (ie:complete denial) I’d be amazed if she makes it through the Tory conference next week without about 200 letters going in to Grsham Brady

Hats off to Rishi for his statement saying he won’t be attending conference as ‘he wants Liz to have her moment’ 😂

A live stream of him watching her conference speech would be good


 
Posted : 29/09/2022 11:29 am
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A live stream of him watching her conference speech would be good

...perhaps we could form a queue outside his house so we can peer into his front window! 🙂


 
Posted : 29/09/2022 11:31 am
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Any policies tinas?

The snp also act to redustribute wealth They do like to centraluse power tho which is why i dont vote for them


 
Posted : 29/09/2022 11:32 am
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Anyway back to the point. That was horrendous from Truss. I've never heard a politician floundervso badly.

Its got to have an effect on the polls and the tory conference should be entertaining


 
Posted : 29/09/2022 11:36 am
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Name a single tory policy that does not act to concentrate wealth in the hands of the powerful and wealthy?

Seeing as we're talking about Rory Stewart:

https://www.civilserviceworld.com/professions/article/moj-hits-10-prisons-drugs-and-violence-targets-meaning-former-prisons-minister-rory-stewart-wouldnt-have-had-to-resign

Unless the powerful and wealthy you refer to are the manufacturers of locker room portacabins and x-ray machines, which TBH they probably are quite well off, Mr Wernick certainly made about £60million extra turnover from the pandemic.


 
Posted : 29/09/2022 11:37 am
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Tinas

Name a single tory policy that does not act to concentrate wealth in the hands of the powerful and wealthy?

Put's kettle on.
Opens biscuits.
Acknowledges this might be quite a wait...


 
Posted : 29/09/2022 11:37 am
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Anyone offering odds on Truss still being PM in 6 months?

I don't see her lasting until Christmas.

Although technically she has been in power for a few weeks, in reality it's only just over one.

It's not going well.


 
Posted : 29/09/2022 11:38 am
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And suddenly this morning's media round makes sense:

https://twitter.com/APHClarkson/status/1575404800434372610


 
Posted : 29/09/2022 11:40 am
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Good answe tinas. Minor bit of fiddling around the edges not a majir policy but * tips cap* 😀


 
Posted : 29/09/2022 11:48 am
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TBF he resigned because he didn't want the Duke of Nonce to do that interview.


 
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Seeing as we’re talking about Rory Stewart:

Since we're talking about Rory Stewart I decided to look at his voting history. It's pretty appalling imo but otherwise exactly what I would expect from a Tory MP.

I see no evidence that he wasn't a typical Tory MP.

https://www.theyworkforyou.com/mp/24964/rory_stewart/penrith_and_the_border/votes

I reckon how Rory Stewart behaved when he heard the division bell rung in the House of Commons is more important than his behaviour in front of a TV camera.


 
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