She hasn’t let me forget that..
Certainly sounds like a memorable evening.
Don’t her and her ilk
It's fine to stereotype a group as long as they are rich and privileged then?
How would you feel if Kerry Katona's working class background was blamed when she was caught being drunk and not looking after her kids (or some such stereotypical scenario)? 🙂
I want to voice my frustration that this gutter article is top of the "read" list on the BBC News website and that someone wrote a thread on it here but then I'd only be adding to this pointless discussion around one of the most nauseating people on TV, so I'll just say that I'm not bothered and keep quiet.
If she's paying the extra to have them flagged as unaccompanied then I guess it's her prerogative. I suspect though she isn't and as such is taking the proverbial. It's interesting because in Canada the airline "must make all reasonable efforts to seat children 12 and under adjacent to an accompanying adult". You wonder how that'd work in this case.
I read it too, interesting. I tend not to agree with her policy, it is taking the piss a bit if staff are then obliged to look after them.
However, on my last flight back from Asia, a nanny was looking after 5 kids in business class whilst the 2 extremely wealthy/healthy/immaculately dressed parents were in First.
Kirsty's not trying hard enough!
I think she's being unfairly pilloried.
I mean, would you want to sit next to a child who'd been raised by Kirstie ****ing Allsopp?
Obvious really. She's claiming her tickets on expenses like Wobbliscott does. The whole 'teaching kids the value of money' stuff is just bollox though.
Depends on the kids of course but at 10 and 12 its not like they'll need help with wiping their nose or owt, exactly how much child minding would be required? IME drunk adults on planes are a whole lot worse than kids..
We just chain ours up in the coal bunker when we go on holiday. Saves a fortune and they keep the rats down, once the hunger takes them.
@perchy, I was flying over the weekend, as it happens. In these. You were right.
She’s a cheapskate end of.
The teaching her children the value of money thing is the reddest of red herrings. Redder in fact than the lovechild of Sarah Ferguson and Mick Hucknall after spending a week all inclusive on the surface of the sun without a parasol or factor 50.
She wants to save money and is prepared to sit separate from her children to do so and let others do her parenting for her.
For gods sake CFH, You know there are hundreds of pairs of normal shoe's right?
I do, Kryters, I do.
For tomorrow's flight, it will be a pair of black Oxfords from the sadly defunct Duckers.
I just like to reinforce stereotypes now and again. 🙂
I mean, would you want to sit next to a child who’d been raised by Kirstie **** Allsopp?
It could be worse. Imagine shelling out for first class and finding yourself next to Kirstie Allsopp.
I feel sorry for the rest of the economy class passengers. Supervised children are often bad enough on flights let alone unaccompanied ones. Why should they have to endure her kids when she swans off to the front of the plane?
She’s on my list of people I’d like to push down a flight of stairs.
Who else is on your list (other than Trump, Piers Morgan and Fiona Bruce, obvs)?
Funnily enough Trump and Piers Morgan are on there. It’s a bloody long list and would require a separate thread.
This thread needs a bit of balance, despite your liking/disliking of Kirsty and her Husband.
Her/thier kids might actually be rather nice well behaved and utterly wonderful specimens of the human race.
You don’t know them, and no doubt will never rub shoulders with them.
Don’t plant your dislike for Mrs Allsop and her husband onto thier kids, they probably have enough anxieties of their own to contend with.
^^woah there bikebouy. We’ll have none of your sensible postings thank you very much
what goes around comes around.. I wonder what care home they have planned for Kirstie.
I guess there must be shed loads of holidays without the kids too
I just like to reinforce stereotypes now and again.
Including the one where I make fun of your shoes?
Think you’ll find, that wasn’t me.
I did consider it, but it was such a cliche 😉
DOH!
I'm jetlagged. That's as good an excuse as any!
I thought they were going to be 5-6 years old at first.
At their age, give them an iPad and you'd only notice them if you tripped over their headphone cable
@perchy - don't worry Flashy was coming home from a cosplay convention and left his Green Lantern outfit on as an homage to his hero.
If she was my mum I would want to sit in a different part of the plane. You can't blame them.
What has this got to do with us?
What has this got to do with us?
Kirstie is a regular poster on here. She rides 650b and refuses to go tubeless
Sorry didn't know. Hardtail or full bouncer?
Lighten up mt, it's just a bit of fun.
Definitely a fuller bounce.
Fat bike?
Yeah, no problem.
It's not unusual out here for expat families to split across business class and economy. Kids often end up in the cheap seats, often with the nanny. Last time we flew business there was a family that had mum in business with dad and the kids in the back.
If the kids aren't bothered by sitting watching movies for a few hours and eating plastic food (which they're not) then it's the cheap seats for them. You're a not getting any thing out of a 12 year old on a plane with Star Wars on tap. They go to school for 7 hours at a time, I'm sure they can manage a few rows away on a plane.
Move on!
It's ok as long as you check on them every 8 hours.
I wonder if when they drive anywhere her & her husband go in the Range Rover, while her kid's follow behind in a "Budget Taxi's" Octavia with 320,000 miles on the clock...
I am always proud of my parents in that we always (and continue to do so) were treated the same as each other. If they couldn’t afford for the whole family to have something then no one had it - we had a next door neighbour who used to feed their kids sausages and fish fingers while they had steak or salmon!
i don’t have kids myself but if I did I would certainly make sure they sat with me on a flight, no matter what their ages were.
we had a next door neighbour who used to feed their kids sausages and fish fingers while they had steak or salmon!
Which is very, very normal as lots of kids won't eat the steak or Salmon.
However the rest of your point stands. If I can't afford for all 4 of us to fly first class, then I'll be in economy with the kids. We're a family. It's that simple.
we had a next door neighbour who used to feed their kids sausages and fish fingers while they had steak or salmon!
Id take sausages and fish fingers as a kid....
I agree with earlier post about enjoying doing exciting stuff like flying onto a holiday with my kids - especially if my work and school life (not private but v busy) means we've spent lots of time apart.
Other issue not mentioned so far is the safety consideration. (Seeing as Ryan air charges to guarantee putting families together, this isn't a purely class-based argument). If there is need for an emergency evacuation and I was apart from my young kids, I wouldn't be turning left to go to the exit I'd be turning right to get to my 10 yr old - probably against the flow of escapees, slowing evacuation for all......but maybe that's where I'm different to the Allsopps.
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Non issue. Plenty of carriers split up groups/families into different seats.
Why is she even taking her kids on holiday with her
Why is this even in the news ?
Other issue not mentioned so far is the safety consideration. (Seeing as Ryan air charges to guarantee putting families together, this isn’t a purely class-based argument). If there is need for an emergency evacuation and I was apart from my young kids, I wouldn’t be turning left to go to the exit I’d be turning right to get to my 10 yr old – probably against the flow of escapees, slowing evacuation for all……but maybe that’s where I’m different to the Allsopps.
If kids are not with a parent then the person next to them is asked about emergency stuff, most airlines will try and move people in case of people being split up.
If you try and go against the flow of people in an emergency you will probably find yourself on your arse at the end of the slide.
This is also why airlines will charge and want to know the numbers of unaccompanied children so they can have enough staff and know who is dealing with them.
Ryan air charges to guarantee putting families together
Ryan air charges because they know most parents will pay, it is just a trick to squeeze more money out of passengers, they would stop if parents stopped paying as it would be less economical than just seating them together.
However the rest of your point stands. If I can’t afford for all 4 of us to fly first class, then I’ll be in economy with the kids. We’re a family. It’s that simple.
I couldn't agree more. No way would I put my children in economy whilst I flew business. I've far too much love and respect for them to treat them as inferior.
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@perchy, I was flying over the weekend, as it happens. In these. You were right.
I think that was for me not him!
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If kids are not with a parent then the person next to them is asked about emergency stuff, most airlines will try and move people in case of people being split up.
If you try and go against the flow of people in an emergency you will probably find yourself on your arse at the end of the slide.
This is also why airlines will charge and want to know the numbers of unaccompanied children so they can have enough staff and know who is dealing with them.
Not sure I agree I'm afraid - the airlines can't possibly believe that in an emergency situation that a stranger can be relied upon to care for a minor.Some would, but many would be out for themselves I'd suggest.
Who's clearing the parent out to the slide, the cabin crew?! I doubt it so it then depends on the passengers and I'm pretty certain 6ft/14.5st motivated dad in that emergency situation, braced against seating would cause a major delay by trying to get up the plane. (I'm not saying that's the right thing for the parent to do but just think a good number would in such a situation)
Almost certain that no change in staff numbers comes from unaccompanied minors. Especially on Ryan air. Chance of a cabin crew being near to the seat of that child when the panic starts is going to be slim.
Kids, her responsibility. The crew are not child minders etc etc