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Ok, here’s the deal …. And the legal part of this question I know myself… never.

But… there has been a bike chained to the wall, near where I park my car, for about 3-4 months now.

To be honest I’ve had my eye on this thing as a candidate for a possible fixie for awhile now but meantime it is slowly disintegrating.

It didn’t take long at all for the front tyre to go missing, then the saddle, now recently the rear tyre is gone. At what point (ever? ) would it be acceptable to me to pop the lock ( surprised it’s not happened already.. simple cable lock ) and make off with the frame?

The best I can ever see happening currently is a police detail coming round with a pair of bolt cutters and either throwing the remains in a skip or selling it off on auction to benefit the Police Benevolent Society.


 
Posted : 01/02/2010 9:38 am
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Take it. Just make sure you dress up as like someone you don't like who might be near by, first.


 
Posted : 01/02/2010 9:41 am
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Have it away and re-animate.


 
Posted : 01/02/2010 9:41 am
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As you said, it will otherwise just continue to disintegrate, then get binned. Rejuvenate, then post the pics!


 
Posted : 01/02/2010 9:44 am
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it's a police plant - they're going to jump on the sucker who touches it.

(where did you say it was?)


 
Posted : 01/02/2010 10:14 am
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Owner lives alone and has had a major illness, last thing on his mind was collecting his beloved bike but he hoped no-one would be cheap enough to steal it...

😆


 
Posted : 01/02/2010 10:15 am
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Is it yours? No! So leave it alone. This is just another example of why I wish the canton de Genève would revoke your residence permit.


 
Posted : 01/02/2010 10:28 am
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ahh, nice too see you again also furry...


 
Posted : 01/02/2010 10:30 am
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and just for accuracy that would be the Canton of Vaud furry.
cheers,


 
Posted : 01/02/2010 10:31 am
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cut the lock, take it to police station, say you have found it, no-one claims it, you get it back legally 💡


 
Posted : 01/02/2010 10:47 am
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I thought if you gave up ownership of something then legally other people could take it without it being theft- like when you throw something in a skip or a bin.
Not sure exactly what length of time would be required in this situation if at all.


 
Posted : 01/02/2010 10:48 am
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cut the lock, take it to police station, say you have found it, no-one claims it, you get it back legally

Fairly sure that would be stealing also, and criminal damage to the lock. Doesn't matter if you took it to the police station afterwards. It's not yours, leave it where it is.

I thought if you gave up ownership of something then legally other people could take it without it being theft- like when you throw something in a skip or a bin.

I think you'd have to prove the person had given up ownership, rather than just forgotten about it. They're not the same thing.


 
Posted : 01/02/2010 10:50 am
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[url= http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/8129534.stm ]Fairly sure that a secured bike would not be considered abandoned[/url] but you can [url= http://www.richmond.gov.uk/abandoned_bicycles ] usually report it and have it removed, rather than steal it[/url]


 
Posted : 01/02/2010 10:56 am
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You can technically steal space in a skip! Just because you throw something into a skip doesn't automatically mean you can take it! Just remember it from my studying days.


 
Posted : 01/02/2010 11:00 am
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Take it. But make sure you don't tell too many people about it. Doh, too late you dopey bar steward, a career in crime is not for you!

Anyone interested in buying an Ibis Mojo?


 
Posted : 01/02/2010 11:01 am
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Yeti, I know, how foolish of me... furryMarmot is watching my every move now. 8)


 
Posted : 01/02/2010 11:04 am
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grynch this evening:

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Posted : 01/02/2010 11:07 am
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A fixie? In Canton Vaud? You must be mad. Apart from the big hills everywhere, you'll have to contend with Swiss drivers not signalling on roundabouts and sadistic bus drivers. Fit a back brake at least, please.


 
Posted : 01/02/2010 11:29 am
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Fit a back brake at least, please.

front brake?

i done almost the same thing in Germany. found a bike in a bush that had obviously been there some time. had it away, stripped it, repainted the frame, salvaged what i could, built a set of wheels (flip-flop hub), turned and cut down the bars, ransacked the bits box of my LBS and ended up with this:

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Posted : 01/02/2010 12:35 pm
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Alpin;you need to put that back IN the bushes.


 
Posted : 01/02/2010 12:41 pm
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Posted : 01/02/2010 12:55 pm
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do they still hang bike thieves in Switzerland? 😉


 
Posted : 01/02/2010 1:12 pm
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only Cornish ones Crispy


 
Posted : 01/02/2010 1:21 pm