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Doesn't happen anywhere else in the UK as far as I have seen although someone will prove me wrong.
So what's it all about.? Are the assistants that useless?
do it yersen you get the reet amount on em................. 😉
This has happened to me in the North East and also Manchester, so Leeds isn't as strange as you may think.
They do it in several places in Cardiff. It's so that you can put on as much as you require without needing a lengthy conversation 🙂
What ton said. Not a hard concept to grasp. Or is it?
War in Afghanistan, unrest in North Africa, USA/Russia/Chinese arms race, global financial meltdown and now [b]this[/b]!
Stop the planet I want to get off.
i like vinegar firs then salt. I also like vinegar on my fish, but not salt. Thats why i moved to Leeds, to allow my specialist tastes to be supported!
Harry the spider.
Let's get real here, chips and more importantly the customs of the Chippy are waaaay more important.
are you that useless that you need an assistant to salt and vinegar your chips?
i like to salt, then vinegar then salt again. but none on the fish.
officially leeds is the gastronomic capital of the world. but only in the sense of the world as yorkshire people see it.
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It isn't vinegar (usually) it is a 'non-brewed condiment'. Basically it is water, acetic acid, flavourings and caramel colour.
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Er, depends on what you've asked for doesn't it?
Wrapped (to take home - which, by the way, makes your car really stink for weeks) - here the S&V should be put on by the spotty, greasy haired oik serving you.
Open (to scoff in the street, so looking like you're either unemployed, from Stevenage, or both) - here the S&V should be applied by yourself.
It is always salt first, vinegar second whichever of the above scenario is being played out.
Vinegar must also be put onto mushy peas.
End of discussion.
I always put salt and non-brewed condiment on myself - allowing time for it all to soak in nicely then, on getting home, usually apply additional vinegar.
And yes - vinegar is a must on mushy peas but I have never asked a shop to put non-brewed condiment on a pot before wrapping them up. I must try that soon.
Surely all good chip shops will let you put your own salt and vinegar on?
There's a one around the corner from me that has a non-brewed condiment spray. It fascinates me every time I get to use it.
It's dead posh.
Mmmmm. I do like a chip barm (muffin/breadcake/stottie/) where the non-brewed condiment has soaked into the bread. It's filthy but gorgeous.
There's a one around the corner from me that has a non-brewed condiment spray
You could use that for a DIY spray tan
Surely all good chip shops will let you put your own salt and vinegar on?
And the ones in Leeds as well, apparently.
What! They want you to put salt & vinegar yourself? How dare they! We must start a revolution by overthrowing the govt propaganda chip shop.
The only time i went to a fish and chips shop they asked if I wanted it open
I had no idea what that meant but thought it might mean 'without batter' so said no. They then proceeded to wrap it up in newspaper so I couldn'y open it to eat the stuff.
Never happens in restaurants
I hate it when the person behind the counter says, 'salt & vinegar?', then proceeds to do it for me! How the hell do they know how much or how little I want on.
I'll do my own thanks.
There's a nice cafe in the centre of Bradford; they asked if I wanted salt and vinegar, and done it for me.
Maybe it's just a Leeds thing. It is quite uncivilised compared to Bradford tbh. 🙁
Leeds has the best fish n dirks in the country. Try Coes in cross gates for a real treat. Skyliner in Colton is nice too (just off M1 near thorpe park hotel).
Always do my own salt n vinegar, scraps on first mind!
Always prefer to do my own. Plenty of times I've been asked 'salt and vinegar?', I've said yes please, not too much salt, and ended up with it looking like a bloody snowdrift all over my chips, making them almost inedible. I assume that, if the OP sneezes, he requires the person saying 'bless you' to then blow his nose for him.
I'm defo with the 'put it on yersel' camp.
Especially if 'Pickled Onion' Vinegar is on offer, not seen that for a year or two mind..... really sharp and tangy.... oooh lovely.
I wouldn't dream of letting a chip shop monkey put my salt & vinegar on.
If I have them wrapped, then I don't even put any on myself - it has to be done at home.
I've bought chips in Bristol and had them wrapped up by the staff, then had to walk over to the table by the door where the salt & vinegar is kept to unwrap them and add the S&V myself.
The whole world's gone mad. Or at least Bristol and Leeds have.
wherever in the country, i've never had the pleasure of doing it myself - is there a special handshake i need to learn? instead, my polite request for "a heart-attack's worth of salt please" invariably ends up with it mainly on the non-chip part of the guilt-snack. you'd think it'd be obvious where the salt's needed (though maybe i've learned the whole concept of chips wrongly).
incidentally, my chemistry teacher at school was guaranteed a massive cob-on if anyone pronounced vinegar 'vinnygar' - "you don't pronounce vine as viney do you? it's vine-gar you stupid boy!" (i presume the CRB checks are slowly weeding such characterful teachers out of the education system - the kids'll never know what they're missing)
Grew up 50 yards from the skyliner used to ask for a bag of scraps as i couldn't afford chips except on Fridays after the a team when i'd get a bag of chips and put on my own salt and vinegar.
Bizarre that your chemistry teacher could attain such a position without grasping the basic concept that the English language is far more complex than it need be, yet is complex nontheless.
Oh, and just for the record......
Scone is pronounced like stone, not scon!
Scone is pronounced like stone, not scon!
No it's not! 👿
Chippys in the midlands are too tight to let you do it yourself
Oh and Scone is pronounced like stone round here in the NW Alps ghetto
And I suppose those are bon[s]e[/s]s in your skeleton? 😉
in fairness, that was a condensed version of the 5 minute, latin referencing original. I agree with you, mind. (aside from scone - it's got two enns and no ees in my vocab)I'd say it was more bizarre that he retained his position for decades amidst all the pederastic undertones knocking around.. (plus the occasional (rumoured) "boot down the stairs" approach to discipline)
to totally hijack the thread, i've seen a couple of adverts for the new series on (possibly) sky atlantic - Treme. it's been pronounced differently both times, which one's the winner; Treem or TrayMay?
carlosg - MemberAnd I suppose those are bones in your skeleton?
they certainly aye Boneys in [i]my[/i] skellington
woe betide the chip shop assistant who dares to put mi salt and vinegar on.
It's a scon round 'ere and WTF is a chip barm????............................................................................. shirley ya mean a chip butty.
When I started work I had to do the chip run on a friday and my boss when asked about salt and vinegar used to say " drown it" which I did of course rather enthusiastically. Another friend of mine had the same task where he worked put for a lot of guys so he used one of those old lady shopping trollys on wheels and one friday he was running late, anyone knows that late f&c is just unacceptable and can be punished with a broom handle through your overalls for the rest of the day or worse. Anyway as he was running back to work with the trolly loaded he got chased and stopped by the police they thought he had just mugged some old lady.
[i]Leeds has the best fish n dirks in the country[/i]
Apart from 3 much better ones in Whitby.
Nowt wrong with Leeds
for my own tastes:
lots of salt, followed by lots of vinegar to wash the salt down into the bag, followed by more salt on top.
i prefer it when i'm allowed to do my own seasoning.
Never been impressed with Whitby fish n dirks. The place over the bridge on the abbey side is meant to be nice.
You can't compare the Magpie as thats a fortune. The other chippies near the magpie I don't get excited about.
There's a nice cafe in the centre of Bradford
it's closed down now. Just like the rest of town 🙁 That's why I have to go to Leeds 😉
mogrim, if you must throw the Sisters into the works, at least use something from when they were actually [i]in[/i] Leeds.
e.g.
Nice and Bradford in the same sentence has to be an oxymoron surely?
As for Chippy's - I tend to dislike coastal ones as they generally use animal fat (save for the odd exception). The nice fresh fish is smothered in horrible dripping taste.
Veg/sunflower oil ftw.
Is it closed down? The In Plaice? No way?
[url= http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?client=safari&q=bradford&oe=UTF-8&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Bradford,+United+Kingdom&gl=uk&ll=53.793693,-1.754047&spn=0.003936,0.008004&t=h&z=17&layer=c&cbll=53.793412,-1.753792&panoid=VLwAq4Mhcp_flt-M0l9tkg&cbp=12,242.99,,0,5.6 ]The one on the corner of Bridge st and Aldermanbury?[/url]
Please say it's not so. 🙁 Lovely bit of fish I had there.
I said to my wife; that piece of fish was good enough for Jehova...
Nice and Bradford in the same sentence has to be an oxymoron surely?
depends if you're referring to (a) the City of Bradford or (b) Bradford Metropolitan District. (a) yes, (b) most definitely not.
s it closed down? The In Plaice? No way?The one on the corner of Bridge st and Aldermanbury?
Please say it's not so. Lovely bit of fish I had there.
I know the one you mean; I can't say whether it is still open or not, I don't go into town, there's nothing there but The Hole. But I wouldn't be surprised if it was a pound shop now
Nice and Bradford in the same sentence has to be an oxymoron surely?
Bradford squats and poos on the dump that is Sheffield mate. And yes I have bin to Sheffield, much to my regret. 🙁
Like someone from Sheffield knows owt about good taste anyway... 🙄
Elf, I worked in Sheffield briefly. Hillsborough Barracks.
I lasted 4 weeks of slogging in through Grenoside, only to have no work to do when I got there, before getting an interview at the place I work at now.
Sheffield has some fantastic countryside to the west, but I'd take Bradford any day. I still live here, almost 30 years since I arrived at Bradford University as a naive curry hating 17 year old
Ha, ha, ha, oh, my dear friend Fred.
You've posted some decent stuff of late pal, but you've just lost your last shred of credibility.
Leeds is the arsehole of Yorkshire and Bradford it's deposits.
john drummer, please don't tell me you're judging Sheffield by Hillsborough and it's expressway to Barnsley?
Behave yourself. West Yorkshire is miles better than South Yorkshire, which is known for nothing but misery, despair, and rain. It's not even Yorkshire really; the rest of the county felt sorry for it, and no-one else wanted it.
well I did have a couple of good nights out on West Street. I've worked in Rotherham too 😯
But I'd happily never go there again.
Barnsley is where I work, nothing more. Home is Leeds/Wakey/Bradford, but given the chance I'd quite happily call Vancouver "home" 😉
oh, and one other thing...
"there's only one team in Yorkshire" MOT!
Brought up in Leeds and frequented the lovely chip shops in Headingley, Yeadon and Otley where the offer to put salt and vinegar on your 'once' (fish & chips and always haddock and none of the this cod thing you get down south!) by the assistant would probably result in violence.
Now live in Bristol where in most chip shops the salt and vinegar are kept out of reach of the customers. "Do you want salt and vinegar?" "Yes please I'll put my own on" usually ends up with the assistant completely speechless at this afront. On the couple of occasions when I first moved down here I let them put the S&V on - well a light dusting of salt and a slight shower of vinegar - I had to ask for the condiments to finish the job off.
I have a cousin who was born in Sheffield. His parents were trying to get somewhere nicer for him to be born, like S****horpe, but the shock of seeing Sheffield sent his mum into labour. 🙁
He's always bin bitter about it. Poor lad.
West Yorkshire is miles better than South Yorkshire
2 exceptions:
Batley
Dewsbury
lived in Batley for a year, learnt to drive in Dewsbury. nuke it from orbit, it's the only option
used to like the fish and chips from Nash's on north lane in headingley, back in the day when i was a saturday lad at Ainsworth cycles next door.
This was about the time that stif opened.
And as for West Yorkshire, it nice apart from the WF postcode area.
This should have been included in the sheitehole that is south yorkshire
I came across this phenomenon in Treorchy/Treherbert after doing Afan, ****ing ace, yes I want loads of salt & vinegar*.
They never give you enough, and no I don't want my lovely crisp battered fish turned into a soppy mess you muppet - why is this hard to for most chippy's to understand?
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mastiles_fanylion - Member
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It isn't vinegar (usually) it is a 'non-brewed condiment'. Basically it is water, acetic acid, flavourings and caramel colour.
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I've always wondered why the vinegar I can buy is no were near as lovely as chip shop vinegar.. any idea where I can buy it?
used to like the fish and chips from Nash's on north lane in headingley,
Nash's 🙂 them were t'days ...
and for Pie n Peas wi chips it had to be
Cantor's in Chapletown 😀
And in Whitby I much prefer a chippy on the back street near the swing bridge, think it's Royal Fisheries on Baxtergate, but I do know they are very good.
I always ask for lemon, so no dillema there of who's putting what.
you'll not get lemon round here mate 😉
The only time i went to a fish and chips shop
😮
Nash's! brilliant chip shop. My first job was as the greasy chip boy at Bryan's but we still got our fish and chips from Nash's!
And i can confirm I had to let people put their own salt and vinegar on. I could never put enough on for some people, it would have been easier to fry everything in vinegar the amount some people wanted...
Just back from the chippy. Mmm.
2 exceptions:Batley...
Sacrilege
Frontier's gotta be one of the best nightclubbing experiences known to man 😆
which one's the winner; Treem or TrayMay?
It's Tremé, so the latter.
Whenever I've bought chips in Leeds, they've been soggy and swimming in grease. I work out of our Wakefield office occasionally and there's a couple of chippies near there, they're both mediocre at best too. As a veggie, I really object to finding lumps of fish in my goddamn chips.
When going to the coast we always make sure to take in Robin Hoods Bay, the chippy opposite Wainwrights bar up the narrow street serves the best ive had always worth a visit.
I still miss Salt and Sauce on my haggis supper from when I lived in Edinburgh.
FWIW, don't bother going to Frydays on Street Lane, we nearly had to get out a new mortgage to afford their fish and chips and it was crap.
Apart from 3 much better ones in Whitby.
I know it is a fortune but I do like the Magpie and there are at least a couple of others that are excellent. Failing that, go over the swing bridge heading towards the Abbey and turn left and get your own fish at the fishmongers, Tatties at the grocers on the way back to the car park and go home and do your own.
At the end of the day salt and vinegar aside for a moment, leeds is one hell of a shite hole
Don't forget the horrible football club/supporters Rob - worse than the Pigs.
Oh, see you in league 1 next year mate 😥
Only football thing we will agree on 🙂
I think we'd probably both agree that our respective clubs are absolute bobbins at the moment.
At least we haven't got the Ginger Pig in charge though.
No - isn't quinny still PLAYING for you?
sturmey, will give that a try! Do you have a postcode?
Also regarding Leeds fish and chips (and beyond) it is true that there are some sh1tholes doing soggy greasy chips, absolutely horrid.
For me it has to be Haddock, with a dark brown batter. Chunky well cooked chips. With scraps and fried in dripping. Anything less is not proper fish n dirks.
He's the Ginger leprechaun
CHB Mariondale fisheries Albion rd YO22 4SW. Its marked on google maps.
[url= http://www.foodvision.gov.uk/pages/gateshead-salt-shaker-study ]Big Brother has already taken all the fun from self-administered condiment! [/url] 🙄
Oh yes sturmey. Been there and it is good. Its the one with the little courtyard with benches out the front. Havn't been for a few years, but will make a point of going next time we are in RHB (very soon!).
To bring this back the start of topic, I seem to remember they are VERY civilised and allow you to salt and vinegar to your own requirements?
So if we established that doing your own salt n vinegar is the correct and proper thing, lets get to the important stuff:
COD or HADDOCK?
VEG OIL or MELTED COW for frying?
haddock. dripping
Haddock - which is rare in Bristol chip shops.
Dripping - non-existent in Bristol chips shops.
When I'm back up t'North the first thing I do is drive down to the Mayflower chippy in Otley - bloody luverly!
Since we are talking Sisters....
And I am now thinking there will be a chippy tea in my near future too!